PTWM #97 Who wants to see R’s massive “whole”? Vote yes or she’ll call you a trol!

[Helpimafish]

It sounds awful because it is. Your daughter shared something serious with you and you didn’t believe her. Cutting yourself for attention or to fit in (as you imply) is still serious and she urgently needs support with her mental health.

I’m really reluctant to say anything at all because I really don’t want to take the focus away from Rach but some of the comments recently about your kids being LGBT+ just for attention or to fit in are very concerning. It is not the norm within schools and will do very little for their popularity- it will however allow them to fit in with a small group of kids who everyone else thinks are “weird”.

Have you considered why your child would be so desperate to fit in with this specific social group? Could it be because they genuinely feel aligned with them and comfortable with them? Sure your kid may not be bisexual or a lesbian, as they grow up and understand themselves better it may be that their sexuality isn’t quite what they first thought, but the fact they’re questioning it in the first place suggests there’s something there to be questioned.

If you’re all as super duper ok with it as you claim to be then why are you so quick to assume that your kids are lying or have been peer pressured? I’m sure you’re all really good parents but homophobia is still deeply embedded into our society and I think some of you need to consider why you’re so keen to deny what your children are telling you about themselves.

Just wanted to throw my opinion in the mix. Obviously I don't know the poster and her child personally so it's difficult to know if her daughter was suicidal or not or whether she actually did self harm.

However, I have an 11 year old daughter myself and I 100% wholeheartedly agree that it is becoming cool within this age group to label yourself, especially as part of the LGBT+ community.

I am NOT saying that some children aren't transgender, gay, etc at all because some are and they know from a very early age. What I am saying is that there is an enormous trend, especially on tiktok etc influencing children to label themselves. For example, my daughters friend came out as pansexual. After speaking to her mum about it, who explained what it meant properly, it turned out she didn't actually know what it meant at all and she only likes boys. Her mum isn't judgemental at all, she literally discussed it with her and said I love you no matter what.

When I was 11, it was taboo to say you were gay or something and if you did you would have been bullied relentlessly for it. Now that is absolutely not the case. It's 'cool' to give yourself a label and I most definitely believe that children are feeling pressure to do this to fit in. It's not the case for every child, as some know very early on, but its a concern that I've discussed with several parents of my daughters friends.

My daughter knows she is loved, she will be loved no matter what or who she is or decides to be. I just don't think at 11 she should feel an overwhelming pressure to label herself to fit in with the crowd. Be yourself, do what you want to do, learn who you are. I just think its incredibly sad that so many children feel that they need to define themselves at this age, especially if they really don't have a complete understanding of what they're saying that they are.

Suicide and self harm are serious issues that need discussion but its not out the realms of possibility that what this poster said is true of her daughter.

 

[Dorothy-redshoes]

Re Lula, R said a couple of years ago that Lula didn't want to be filmed ( because of anxiety? Can't remember). I wonder if Lula felt the only way to get attention from her mother was to be part of the Instagram Patchwork Pantomime disaster which is beyond sad. I don't think she is comfortable in front of the camera, but "performs" for approval. Whatever is going on with Lula, I hope she gets the support she needs.Away from the cameras.

I agree with this, its been very clear for ages this is Lulas way of getting attention, she jumps in front of everyone into the camera or some of her comments she makes into the camera are for a reaction (for example when she said into the camera the other day about calling the viewers losers) its extremely sad that they all have to do that, they fight for camera time in order for R to take notice, they don't see a parent, they see a camera first

 

[LittleLizzy1985]

It sounds awful because it is. Your daughter shared something serious with you and you didn’t believe her. Cutting yourself for attention or to fit in (as you imply) is still serious and she urgently needs support with her mental health.

I’m really reluctant to say anything at all because I really don’t want to take the focus away from Rach but some of the comments recently about your kids being LGBT+ just for attention or to fit in are very concerning. It is not the norm within schools and will do very little for their popularity- it will however allow them to fit in with a small group of kids who everyone else thinks are “weird”.

Have you considered why your child would be so desperate to fit in with this specific social group? Could it be because they genuinely feel aligned with them and comfortable with them? Sure your kid may not be bisexual or a lesbian, as they grow up and understand themselves better it may be that their sexuality isn’t quite what they first thought, but the fact they’re questioning it in the first place suggests there’s something there to be questioned.

If you’re all as super duper ok with it as you claim to be then why are you so quick to assume that your kids are lying or have been peer pressured? I’m sure you’re all really good parents but homophobia is still deeply embedded into our society and I think some of you need to consider why you’re so keen to deny what your children are telling you about themselves.

She was so desperate to fit in with this group because she had been bullied by her last group of friends and felt that she didnt have anyone else - she has diagnosed ADHD, so these 'friends' often find her outbursts 'annoying' and used to call her weird when she was medicated.

I knew her cutting herself wasn't genuine because she said she'd done it earlier that day and there was NO evidence at all, she had never done it before and hasn't done it since. I spoke to her school about it and they also said they had absolutely no concerns about her mental health either.

She's now friends with another group of friends that are more accepting and my bubbly, chatty and bright girl is back. And before its said, no, she's not masking anything; I have a very good relationship with my daughter and she knows she can talk to me about anything, which she does, often.

I'm not implying my daughter is lying about her sexuality - since leaving that circle of friends she has had two girlfriends and a boyfriend, which suggests this wasn't just to fit in. As I said originally, as long as she's happy and healthy that's all I care about, which she now is, once again. I was merely trying to demonstrate how, whether you like it or not, some kids use their sexuality and/or mental health as their identity and to help them fit in. This is no different than people saying people are using the 'anxiety card' for engagement, which is common trend on many of the tattle threads.

 

[LittleLizzy1985]

Just wanted to throw my opinion in the mix. Obviously I don't know the poster and her child personally so it's difficult to know if her daughter was suicidal or not or whether she actually did self harm.

However, I have an 11 year old daughter myself and I 100% wholeheartedly agree that it is becoming cool within this age group to label yourself, especially as part of the LGBT+ community.

I am NOT saying that some children aren't transgender, gay, etc at all because some are and they know from a very early age. What I am saying is that there is an enormous trend, especially on tiktok etc influencing children to label themselves. For example, my daughters friend came out as pansexual. After speaking to her mum about it, who explained what it meant properly, it turned out she didn't actually know what it meant at all and she only likes boys. Her mum isn't judgemental at all, she literally discussed it with her and said I love you no matter what.

When I was 11, it was taboo to say you were gay or something and if you did you would have been bullied relentlessly for it. Now that is absolutely not the case. It's 'cool' to give yourself a label and I most definitely believe that children are feeling pressure to do this to fit in. It's not the case for every child, as some know very early on, but its a concern that I've discussed with several parents of my daughters friends.

My daughter knows she is loved, she will be loved no matter what or who she is or decides to be. I just don't think at 11 she should feel an overwhelming pressure to label herself to fit in with the crowd. Be yourself, do what you want to do, learn who you are. I just think its incredibly sad that so many children feel that they need to define themselves at this age, especially if they really don't have a complete understanding of what they're saying that they are.

Suicide and self harm are serious issues that need discussion but its not out the realms of possibility that what this poster said is true of her daughter.

Thank you. This is spot on, you articulated much better than I did.

 

[Chipwilliams]

Why can’t she sit and read some mr men books with him, or do some crayoning. Or even sit at his level on the floor with him. But no she wraps herself in a blanket and puts the tv on. Or as someone else said a walk on the beach! I bet if it was the other way round she would be moaning at josh to take him out

 

[Mrs Spud]

I hate seeing little kids touching guitars, a snapped string hurts like duck.
Between my husband and 13 year old, we've got like 8 guitars in the house, and in every room, the youngest was taught from the time she could crawl not to touch them. But silly me, that meant I had to actively parent my child, not like R is gonna do that.

 

[LittleLizzy1985]

I agree. The comments have made me uncomfortable, as a parent of a 12 year old who was born female but identifies and lives as male. Am I supposed to assume it’s a fad? I just support and love. If it turns out to not be permanent, so what? Doesn’t bother me either way. He’s been telling me he wants to be a boy since the age of 6.

I'm not saying for one second that every child that identifies as another gender is lying/trying to fit in/it's a fad. If he's been saying this since he was six then I think it's safe to say this is how he genuinely feels and it's great that he is comfortable enough to not only express his feelings about it but live as his true self too

 

[Cady1954]

I've attached screenshots of the chat below.

Secretly filming Joyce who is looking as camp as a row of pink tents today in his slippers and pink shorts, waving round a balloon like a prick.
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duck me that Edie is a little g..........te isn't she? I cant bear kids that say OMG

 

[Moongirl69]

Why can’t she sit and read some mr men books with him, or do some crayoning. Or even sit at his level on the floor with him. But no she wraps herself in a blanket and puts the tv on. Or as someone else said a walk on the beach! I bet if it was the other way round she would be moaning at josh to take him out

That inane noise from her every time she's filming...the laugh that isn't a laugh irritates me so much. Redirect him when he's touching something he shouldn't. As someone else said get the toys out and teach him what he can play with and leave his dad's guitar alone. How can she be so unaware with a 4th child???

 

[Cady1954]

I think kids these day are obsessed with labelling themselves. I think it's down to more screen time on apps like tiktok. My 11 yo niece said she was a lesbian last week which is great if she is but also all her friends are saying they are too. I think she just wants to fit in. The most boring thing you can be these days is straight. Also my 15 yo half sister is trying to get assessed for autism/adhd and has depression and bulimia. Shes surgically attached to her phone and has a tiktok account with 8k followers where she does cos play and reenacts anime. Shes awake all night and sleeps all day. Lockdown made it worse and she now wont go back to school or see anyone. Her mum wont take her phone of her cos she has a meltdown. Her mum is one of those women obsessed with dieting too. Doesn't value real food. I'm not saying its easy with teens but shes let her slip into this instead of taking control over the situation. If she was mine the phone would have been moderated, I would be cooking her fresh healthy food, taking her on walks during the day and trying to get her back to school socialising with real people. I know these conditions have always existed but they seem more prevalent now. I know some mental health conditions happen regardless of environmental factors and can be genetic but after watching Social Dilema on Netflix just reinforced how dangerous these apps are for kids and their developing brains.

My son was diagnosed with ADHD when he was 14 then recently diagnosed again at age 33. He is being assessed for Autism as well (he has two autistic kids as well) Oh that's awful you might think. No. If he is diagnosed with autism and I think he will be he will just use it as an excuse for being a little twit all his life. I know im not going to get any Mother of the year awards for this statement but it is what it is.

 

[LauraC35]

I can't quite believe that this has happened to me, I feel truly lost.
Joyce has blocked me.
I thought we were solid, like the most ever, but I was mistaken..
Joyce, you are lush n you are amazin too.

Oh my God! I’m so sorry! He doesn’t love you so so hard, like the most ever Our thoughts are with you at this difficult time

 

[armywife119]

Hi everyone, so I’m goin Tesco and want to know if you want to see my whole when I get back. Answer NO and I will delete and block you. Answer YES and I will send you my piss soaked, spunk stained sofa. There might be the odd turd and packet of quavers down the side which is so lush.

 

[ILoveUnicorns]

She has started following Thisisimmie she is autistic and the daughter of a tv presenter. I can see she will be using T’s possible diagnosis to the maximum reaching out to whole brand new viewing audience and in turn we will see her numbers grow

 

[FridaK]

She has started following Thisisimmie she is autistic and the daughter of a tv presenter. I can see she will be using T’s possible diagnosis to the maximum reaching out to whole brand new viewing audience and in turn we will see her numbers grow

Predictable . You know what, I kind of forgot we were talking about Rachael over the this T issue and I’ve just remembered .

Tallulah had problems last year with school. She was struggling with the work in and out of lockdown. Then when she went back to school she was being bullied over her skin etc. With that in mind and knowing what Rachael’s like, it’s highly possible that school have had Rachael in to talk about Tallulahs emotional needs, home life and behaviour. Rachael’s tit herself (she said she was crying in the meetings,) kicked off in her poor me way, moved her school to Seb & Issacs and demanded that she have some assessments.
Because God forbid that Rachael be somewhat responsible and that any of it could be sorted by a more stable home life.

Exactly the same way that T had ‘therapy’ for anxiety that stemmed from a DA home life that she couldn’t possibly remember because she was two years old.

You watch, it will be much ado about nothing again.

 

[EmilyChambers]

So she reckons her and Josh work 40 hours a week each?! Yeah ok!!

She needs to change her name then, maybe Part Time Mommy would be better been as she is now (allegedly) full time working and let's face it, has never been that bothered about being a Mom or parenting.

 

[I’mThankyou_]

I'd be surprised if she's even done 40 hours work in the last 12 months.
If its something you're so passionate about Rach it's not really work is it? Not when you're fannying about in IKEA.

 

[Ratboy]

She has started following Thisisimmie she is autistic and the daughter of a tv presenter. I can see she will be using T’s possible diagnosis to the maximum reaching out to whole brand new viewing audience and in turn we will see her numbers grow

I hope her numbers do grow. The more popular she becomes the bigger the chance of reporters looking into her history.

 

[other things online]

Hi everyone, so I’m goin Tesco and want to know if you want to see my whole when I get back. Answer NO and I will delete and block you. Answer YES and I will send you my piss soaked, spunk stained sofa. There might be the odd turd and packet of quavers down the side which is so lush.

I’m just nipping to Aldi so I will do the same with things I bought from there ok?!

 

[jxhx]

Why is her book trending? I logged in to see but couldn't find a reason. Also saw a couple of reviews I thought I'd share then one by PA Jo which I've reported.

 

[reCAPTCHA]

I’m just nipping to Aldi so I will do the same with things I bought from there ok?!

Make sure you get shitfaced first