PTWM #97 Who wants to see R’s massive “whole”? Vote yes or she’ll call you a trol!

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from them messages you can tell Edie runs the roost. 2 kids saw Edie do it yet Seb gets the blame? .. josh needs to grow into his man balls and stand up for his boys. he’ll be sorry when they’re both adults and want nothing to do with him. might sound harsh but i can honestly see that’s how it’s heading.
1000% agree. Poor boys 🥺
 
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I am not saying that she isn’t, I am very aware that girls display autism differently- it doesn’t matter if she is or not, my point is that she is verbal and has been in a mainstream education setting where they clearly haven’t picked it up for the best part of 10 years. Wilby is non verbal and displays some very obvious traits and Racheolio the autism expert is focused on Lula and not the early intervention that would benefit him. Always so hesitant to comment on these threads, some people are so quick to attack and seem to lose sight of the common interest we all have.
We won't attack, us trolls. Some might but we'll have your back. Speak your mind! This is what we are here for.

I’m still struggling to understand who throws out KFC gravy? Never have I ever a drop left to be thrown out 🤷🏻‍♀️
The only reason I get KFC is to wrap the chicken skin round some chips and dunk into the gravy.

Their household... the #gravygate probably didn't even happen but be grateful it was thrown away and not left out on the hallwat floor!
 
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I think kids these day are obsessed with labelling themselves. I think it's down to more screen time on apps like tiktok. My 11 yo niece said she was a lesbian last week which is great if she is but also all her friends are saying they are too. I think she just wants to fit in. The most boring thing you can be these days is straight. Also my 15 yo half sister is trying to get assessed for autism/adhd and has depression and bulimia. Shes surgically attached to her phone and has a tiktok account with 8k followers where she does cos play and reenacts anime. Shes awake all night and sleeps all day. Lockdown made it worse and she now wont go back to school or see anyone. Her mum wont take her phone of her cos she has a meltdown. Her mum is one of those women obsessed with dieting too. Doesn't value real food. I'm not saying its easy with teens but shes let her slip into this instead of taking control over the situation. If she was mine the phone would have been moderated, I would be cooking her fresh healthy food, taking her on walks during the day and trying to get her back to school socialising with real people. I know these conditions have always existed but they seem more prevalent now. I know some mental health conditions happen regardless of environmental factors and can be genetic but after watching Social Dilema on Netflix just reinforced how dangerous these apps are for kids and their developing brains.
TRIGGER WARNING - MENTAL HEALTH

My then 12 year old daughter announced last year that she's bisexual, (absolutely no issue with that, as long as she's happy and healthy) and that a few of her friends were gay. During one of my phone monitoring sessions I found she was in a WhatsApp group called "fag gang" which had roughly 15-20 participants, all of which were either gay, lesbian, bisexual, omnisexual or asexual and most also identified as either trans non-binery or gender fluid except one girl who said, and I quote, "I, unfortunately, am attracted to men" I mean it is unfortunate because they can be absolute arseholes but she definitely meant because she felt she didn't fit in...
There was lots of talk of mental health issues and suicidal thoughts in this chat and when I spoke to my daughter she told me she had tried to cut herself and that she felt suicidal during the first lockdown. This sounds awful but I knew that this wasn't genuine and was to fit in with her new group of friends. I took her phone off her for a week to give her a break from this group and it did her the world of good; she asked me if she could tell her friends that she hasn't got her phone but I said I'd do it, when I explained I was her mum one boy said "hi mum, I'm gay pleased to meet you" like his whole identity was based on his sexuality...
I feel like an old fuddy duddy when I say it wasn't like this in my day 😳 I know society is a lot more accepting of the LGBTQ+ community now, which has been a long time coming, which means more people feel comfortable in coming out, but I also think that due to social media, children are trying to belong to an online community, whether that be LGBTQ+ or people that suffer with mental health issues, and are saying they are something that they're not purely to fit in.

I'm sorry your sister isn't well, I hope your family can get her the help and support she needs to get better 🖤
 
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I can't quite believe that this has happened to me, I feel truly lost.
Joyce has blocked me.
I thought we were solid, like the most ever, but I was mistaken..
Joyce, you are lush n you are amazin too.
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I can't quite believe that this has happened to me, I feel truly lost.
Joyce has blocked me.
I thought we were solid, like the most ever, but I was mistaken..
Joyce, you are lush n you are amazin too.
👄👄👄
Oh hun! I bet you are devastated !! Stay strong
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I can't quite believe that this has happened to me, I feel truly lost.
Joyce has blocked me.
I thought we were solid, like the most ever, but I was mistaken..
Joyce, you are lush n you are amazin too.
👄👄👄
Aww that’s tit babes. You must be gutted. Usual clouds are in the post to you. I can send you my sofa too if you want ??? Xx
 
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Oh hun! I bet you are devastated !! Stay strong
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I am broken. Never again will I see his most unbelievable blue eyes on my Instagram 😩.

Aww that’s tit babes. You must be gutted. Usual clouds are in the post to you. I can send you my sofa too if you want ??? Xx
Thank you for your kindness 💜
A sofa would be amazin, is it a pink one with splashes of Joyce's DNA on it? That would be so lush.
 
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I love hearing all of your experiences of when your boys get older and the closeness you still have with them. I am also a fierce boy momma and altho only at the pre teen stage, I am already dreading the independence and loss of closeness. Hearing your stories makes me settled a lot more 🥰

edit: grammar 😂
Another Mum of 2 adult boys here. My youngest is leaving home in January (21) for a new job 150 miles away. My eldest lives in Asia as a teacher. I haven’t seen him for 2 years because travel is still not permitted in his country. 😢 Because boy 1 is so far away, my youngest is outrageously spoiled. God knows how he’ll cope on his own when his lunch isn’t ready to grab on the way to work and his towels don’t magically walk to the washer from his floor. 😂
 
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I can't quite believe that this has happened to me, I feel truly lost.
Joyce has blocked me.
I thought we were solid, like the most ever, but I was mistaken..
Joyce, you are lush n you are amazin too.
👄👄👄
Why don’t you cheer yourself up by going shopping and dumping it all over your hallway floor for people to tread on? 💜
 
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TRIGGER WARNING - MENTAL HEALTH

My then 12 year old daughter announced last year that she's bisexual, (absolutely no issue with that, as long as she's happy and healthy) and that a few of her friends were gay. During one of my phone monitoring sessions I found she was in a WhatsApp group called "fag gang" which had roughly 15-20 participants, all of which were either gay, lesbian, bisexual, omnisexual or asexual and most also identified as either trans non-binery or gender fluid except one girl who said, and I quote, "I, unfortunately, am attracted to men" I mean it is unfortunate because they can be absolute arseholes but she definitely meant because she felt she didn't fit in...
There was lots of talk of mental health issues and suicidal thoughts in this chat and when I spoke to my daughter she told me she had tried to cut herself and that she felt suicidal during the first lockdown. This sounds awful but I knew that this wasn't genuine and was to fit in with her new group of friends. I took her phone off her for a week to give her a break from this group and it did her the world of good; she asked me if she could tell her friends that she hasn't got her phone but I said I'd do it, when I explained I was her mum one boy said "hi mum, I'm gay pleased to meet you" like his whole identity was based on his sexuality...
I feel like an old fuddy duddy when I say it wasn't like this in my day 😳 I know society is a lot more accepting of the LGBTQ+ community now, which has been a long time coming, which means more people feel comfortable in coming out, but I also think that due to social media, children are trying to belong to an online community, whether that be LGBTQ+ or people that suffer with mental health issues, and are saying they are something that they're not purely to fit in.

I'm sorry your sister isn't well, I hope your family can get her the help and support she needs to get better 🖤
It sounds awful because it is. Your daughter shared something serious with you and you didn’t believe her. Cutting yourself for attention or to fit in (as you imply) is still serious and she urgently needs support with her mental health.

I’m really reluctant to say anything at all because I really don’t want to take the focus away from Rach but some of the comments recently about your kids being LGBT+ just for attention or to fit in are very concerning. It is not the norm within schools and will do very little for their popularity- it will however allow them to fit in with a small group of kids who everyone else thinks are “weird”.

Have you considered why your child would be so desperate to fit in with this specific social group? Could it be because they genuinely feel aligned with them and comfortable with them? Sure your kid may not be bisexual or a lesbian, as they grow up and understand themselves better it may be that their sexuality isn’t quite what they first thought, but the fact they’re questioning it in the first place suggests there’s something there to be questioned.

If you’re all as super duper ok with it as you claim to be then why are you so quick to assume that your kids are lying or have been peer pressured? I’m sure you’re all really good parents but homophobia is still deeply embedded into our society and I think some you need to consider why you’re so keen to deny what your children are telling you about themselves.
 
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It sounds awful because it is. Your daughter shared something serious with you and you didn’t believe her. Cutting yourself for attention or to fit in (as you imply) is still serious and she urgently needs support with her mental health.

I’m really reluctant to say anything at all because I really don’t want to take the focus away from Rach but some of the comments recently about your kids being LGBT+ just for attention or to fit in are very concerning. It is not the norm within schools and will do very little for their popularity- it will however allow them to fit in with a small group of kids who everyone else thinks are “weird”.

Have you considered why your child would be so desperate to fit in with this specific social group? Could it be because they genuinely feel aligned with them and comfortable with them? Sure your kid may not be bisexual or a lesbian, as they grow up and understand themselves better it may be that their sexuality isn’t quite what they first thought, but the fact they’re questioning it in the first place suggests there’s something there to be questioned.

If you’re all as super duper ok with it as you claim to be then why are you so quick to assume that your kids are lying or have been peer pressured? I’m sure you’re all really good parents but homophobia is still deeply embedded into our society and I think some of you need to consider why you’re so keen to deny what your children are telling you about themselves.
I agree. The comments have made me uncomfortable, as a parent of a 12 year old who was born female but identifies and lives as male. Am I supposed to assume it’s a fad? I just support and love. If it turns out to not be permanent, so what? Doesn’t bother me either way. He’s been telling me he wants to be a boy since the age of 6.
 
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Re Lula, R said a couple of years ago that Lula didn't want to be filmed ( because of anxiety? Can't remember). I wonder if Lula felt the only way to get attention from her mother was to be part of the Instagram Patchwork Pantomime disaster which is beyond sad. I don't think she is comfortable in front of the camera, but "performs" for approval. Whatever is going on with Lula, I hope she gets the support she needs.Away from the cameras.
 
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I can't quite believe that this has happened to me, I feel truly lost.
Joyce has blocked me.
I thought we were solid, like the most ever, but I was mistaken..
Joyce, you are lush n you are amazin too.
👄👄👄
Don't worry hun, just go and hang around at the launderette for a bit and he'll turn up!
 
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It’s so infuriating. As much as he’s a twit, if J has been working nights, let him sleep? Why is she letting W play with the guitar? Why is she trying to wake him? She’s so selfish it’s unreal

Ps @Lucyinthesky88 - please don’t take any offence to what I have said. This is my experience with my 12 year old. I did write a message, but don’t want to derail 💗
 

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It’s so infuriating. As much as he’s a twit, if J has been working nights, let him sleep? Why is she letting W play with the guitar? Why is she trying to wake him? She’s so selfish it’s unreal

Ps @Lucyinthesky88 - please don’t take any offence to what I have said. This is my experience with my 12 year old. I did write a message, but don’t want to derail 💗
Presumably the bedroom he’s sleeping in isn’t right next to the lounge though, surely he wouldn’t hear a few strings of a guitar.
 
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Presumably the bedroom he’s sleeping in isn’t right next to the lounge though, surely he wouldn’t hear a few strings of a guitar.
Yer, which is fair enough if he’s in the loft, but what was the need for the first story with trying to keep him quiet? She hates having to parent W. She will be there making all the noise in the world so J wakes up
 
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Rachy get your lazy arse dressed and W and go for a lovely walk on the beach, you know the 1 where we see the view every 5 minutes 🙄

Let repulsive sleep in the tower, you know as he is the only man to work 40 hours a week 🎻
 
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