Preston Davey Trial

[Rubyroo160]

Horrible to say but I think it’s happened a fair few times before due to the nature of the abuse. Preston’s recovered on previous occasions (albeit with chest infections and seizures) but this time has been too bad. Probably why JV in such a state because he thought he’d get away with it again. So he’s maybe taken the time to get ready for the inevitable hospital visit when Preston’s looked poorly but instead of recovering he’s gone into respiratory arrest. I wonder about the 111 callback on a previous occasion that went unanswered, baby was probably in a lot of distress after being abused but had settled so they didn’t bother to get him checked over.

Sorry if I’m being dim but does anybody know why the abuse would cause seizures/chest infections/repsiratory arrest?

 

[MaryLou32]

It's terrible. Just terrible.

This is what ticking boxes and fulfilling "equality and diversity" quotas does - it places totally unsuitable people in positions where they can accidentally or intently - do harm, and ill-intentioned and incompetent people will gravitate towards it like moths to a flame., demanding their "rights", and the vulnerable and voiceless suffer - but somewhere an organisation can tick a box and bask in the glow of virtue.

Yet another baby has died in pain and terror, alone and helpless. Another social work department will doubtless claim that "lessons will be learned".

We all know that they won't, and that more children will suffer.

I know social workers are overworked - it is in so many ways a thankless task of drudgery - but so many babies and children suffer and die because the social workers are either frightened of the carers (in rough violent families of every class), or are blinded by the glamour of middle-class comfort/ professionalism or ticking a gay/ trans box and so ignore or miss signs that a blind man on a galloping horse at midnight would see clearly.

Bugger this for a system!

There is (as far as I have seen) any evidence to suggest Preston was placed with those monsters to tick equality and diversity boxes. Happy to be proved wrong.

 

[Emsie]

To teach children you need Qualified Teacher Status QTS without this your role is support. SENCOs always have QTS because of the nature of their role which is far more than pastoral. I know this because I have been in the profession since Noah counted the animals on to the arc. Then tried to count children getting on a bus for a field trip. The arc was a successful count, the bus not so good.

Okay but you can be a head of year without being a QT can't you? In academy's and such. I was just explaining why JV seemed to fly through the ranks.

 

[Naffdoff]

I’m surprised at BNE taking this piece of sh.t on as a client to defend

 

[teabob]

This has absolutely horrified me. Wtf did they do to this poor boy.

The update about the swabs taken from the cot didn’t show up for me. Anyone else? I wonder if was deleted. 16:08 is the last I can see

 

[Cinnabun]

Me too. One other thing i do also think is we need to learn a few lessons about the wide availability of porn and kinks in general. Sadly I dont think this kind of stuff just exists in a vaccuum. JV must have known what he was doing was wrong, wrong on every level.
Maybe instead of the media being so accepting of kinks and porn, there needs to be a few more negative voices condemning it?

Ian Watkins is anither one who got more and more extreme in his 'kinks'.

 

[Itchy of Itchington]

I'm a social worker, and I'm hoping the general introduction process was around 1-2 weeks and was agreed as facts by all parties therefore didn't need to be covered in oral evidence.

I've managed to find a bit of info. It looks like there was a general meeting in February with possible adopters, foster carers, SW and Preston.
Once matched they met on 23 March. possibly other meeting in between. Then again 28 March and Preston moved in on 3rd April with JV and JFM.

 

[zogsmum]

John was in the house that day as well so knew full well what happened. I think every other charge Jamie is alone with the baby but sending explicit pictures to John

Was John at the house then? I thought he was away from the house eg at work and he came home with the door locked and the dog at the door? He came in to a panicking Jamie?

 

[Square Peg]

Agree, not to mention if semen was found internally as well as externally, there’s just no explaining that away is there?

I mean they can’t even explain away semen being present in or around the cot. Using a soiled towel on a baby is too gross to think about.

I was thinking if the men were in bed doing whatever then had to get up because Preston woke up, sperm could be on their hands and transfer. I hope the prosecution have definitive evidence.

 

[Shinythings]

The thing I never understand with so many of these SA cases is why they have to hurt them too? I can get SA (well I can't but you know what I mean) because that's the attraction but I don't understand the need to hurt and scare him too? Even IF there is some possible explanation other than SA he deserves to have the book thrown at him just for being so awful to him.

 

[Airhead93]

The doctor says she sucked what looked like milky vomit from the baby’s throat, however she does not recall any water being removed. There was no fluid or vomit suctioned from his lungs, she adds.


Is this what I think it is

I just read this and felt sick I assume it is what we think ! Can anyone help with the discriptions with Jamie and John I’ve been reading today and there saying dad in red and dad in blue then they discribe as taller dad who was the taller out the two so I can work out who they are talking about ?

 

[dottynotty]

On reflection maybe I’m giving him some credit. I don’t want to. Preston deserved more.

Jamie sounds like a nasty piece of work, his partner failed that baby too, I’d be interested in his defence as he was the one that went back to work but receiving the inappropriate photos. But also locked out of the house when his partner took Preston’s life. Did he lock him out to to horrible things? With Jamie being open about struggling to colleagues his partner should have escalated this or stepped up. This video shows the partner actually appears to be the dad whereas Jamie is distant. Poor baby, deserved better.

In reflection I appear to be giving him credit. Both of them failed Preston.

 

[JarvisCockerSpaniel]

Was John at the house then? I thought he was away from the house eg at work and he came home with the door locked and the dog at the door? He came in to a panicking Jamie?

Sorry, I realise I may have got the names mixed up. But still, the point remains that they duped everyone spectacularly, I’m surprised at the sheer level that they were consistently able to do this.

 

[maytoseptember]

I can only imagine they mean when you can lower the side of the cot, that he was slumped over like that, propped up on his knees 🥲

This is how I envisaged it too. Some cots can be set up so the mattress sits higher - see random google image.

He couldn’t have been slumped over the bars if they were at full height. It’s confusing though, because he was too old to have the cot set up in that way - he could have fallen out.

 

[Square Peg]

I feel so sad for this little boy. I’m curious to know if they can interrogate the water company or electric company to see whether a shower/bath was run to disprove his claim, whether a runny poo nappy was found, messages from John to his friends and family and between the two. I find the shoes off thing really odd - you may take your shoes off when you get in but John was locked out and with how Jamie is dramatic that would be the last thing you’d do as he’s likely have been causing a scene when John got home. Unless the call from Jamie to John was telling him something was off. But you’d call an ambulance!! Not drive him to hospital. They could have called 999 and being given instructions on performing cpr instead of driving him to hospital with no resuscitation attempts. Was that to get him out of the house where evidence may be?!

Not defending them, but Just to say where they lived at the time it is less than a mile to the hospital, they thought it would be quicker, I would also think it quicker if I was in that situation.

 

[Here2BNosey]

I guessed Varley in Red.

I just read this and felt sick I assume it is what we think ! Can anyone help with the discriptions with Jamie and John I’ve been reading today and there saying dad in red and dad in blue then they discribe as taller dad who was the taller out the two so I can work out who they are talking about ?

 

[Shinythings]

Is it possible he was in the bath and SA'd him in there which might explain water residue being in the bath.

 

[SamPam]

Manchester Evening News are reporting.

 

[maytoseptember]

Are you sure that wasn't the other adopted baby, Leiland James Corkhill? He was murdered by his adoptive mother and there is a similar photo of Leiland with his birth mother.

Ah yes! It was. Thanks for setting me straight.

 

[Rubyroo160]

No, they mean internal organs such as bladder and bowel, indicative of damage due to insertion of an object/penis.

Ok thank you. Just terrible