Preston Davey Trial

[Airhead93]

Yeah cos in one of the interview he was asked was that your legs and he said no comment so could they have been John's legs and filmed on Jamie's phone

I took the no comment as it was his legs that’s why no comment

 

[Shinythings]

The thing I never understand with so many of these SA cases is why they have to hurt them too? I can get SA (well I can't but you know what I mean) because that's the attraction but I don't understand the need to hurt and scare him too? Even IF there is some possible explanation other than SA he deserves to have the book thrown at him just for being so awful to him.

 

[Airhead93]

The doctor says she sucked what looked like milky vomit from the baby’s throat, however she does not recall any water being removed. There was no fluid or vomit suctioned from his lungs, she adds.


Is this what I think it is

I just read this and felt sick I assume it is what we think ! Can anyone help with the discriptions with Jamie and John I’ve been reading today and there saying dad in red and dad in blue then they discribe as taller dad who was the taller out the two so I can work out who they are talking about ?

 

[SamPam]

So the dna found in prestons pants
Both dna found on them... anyone know what they mean by this comment ?

"not unexpected given the domestic nature of the case"

I think they mean because they all live together, their sexual DNA could be argued to be found on clothing in the house (using old laundry to wipe up)

 

[dottynotty]

On reflection maybe I’m giving him some credit. I don’t want to. Preston deserved more.

Jamie sounds like a nasty piece of work, his partner failed that baby too, I’d be interested in his defence as he was the one that went back to work but receiving the inappropriate photos. But also locked out of the house when his partner took Preston’s life. Did he lock him out to to horrible things? With Jamie being open about struggling to colleagues his partner should have escalated this or stepped up. This video shows the partner actually appears to be the dad whereas Jamie is distant. Poor baby, deserved better.

In reflection I appear to be giving him credit. Both of them failed Preston.

 

[JarvisCockerSpaniel]

Was John at the house then? I thought he was away from the house eg at work and he came home with the door locked and the dog at the door? He came in to a panicking Jamie?

Sorry, I realise I may have got the names mixed up. But still, the point remains that they duped everyone spectacularly, I’m surprised at the sheer level that they were consistently able to do this.

 

[Square Peg]

I feel so much for this jury, I felt sick just reading part of the opening.
I actually can’t believe they basically tortured that poor baby. I don’t even have any words.
HOW can they be pleading not guilty?! I asked the other day on the crime thread whether the defence did an opening statement or not or whether they deferred their statement until after the prosecution rests as I wasn’t following initially, I tried to search but couldn’t find one.

Nothing has been said yet from the defence.

 

[maytoseptember]

I can only imagine they mean when you can lower the side of the cot, that he was slumped over like that, propped up on his knees 🥲

This is how I envisaged it too. Some cots can be set up so the mattress sits higher - see random google image.

He couldn’t have been slumped over the bars if they were at full height. It’s confusing though, because he was too old to have the cot set up in that way - he could have fallen out.

 

[Rhubarb10]

He had a perforated bowel which they said had happened shortly before hospital admission. This alone is very serious and he would have needed to be hospitalised for this.

Woah wtf!? Could i ask where have you seen that reported, curious because I must have missed reading the reporting of that info. Thought I'd read all the court docs.

That poor little boy. It is just horrific.

 

[Here2BNosey]

I guessed Varley in Red.

I just read this and felt sick I assume it is what we think ! Can anyone help with the discriptions with Jamie and John I’ve been reading today and there saying dad in red and dad in blue then they discribe as taller dad who was the taller out the two so I can work out who they are talking about ?

 

[SamPam]

Can someone help me find an article from a few weeks ago with Preston’s birth mother? There were photos of them together at a contact centre, and she was in full PPE (face shield, apron, gloves) due to Covid. I’m sure it was the BBC but I can’t find it anywhere.

Are you sure that wasn't the other adopted baby, Leiland James Corkhill? He was murdered by his adoptive mother and there is a similar photo of Leiland with his birth mother.

 

[Mamchat]

Can anyone tell me if the accused are on remand or living in the community?
Are they still together ?
I can find the answers

 

[PaddyDomino]

trying to figure out his family, this is one sister and then a different sister is the sleep trainer, she has a different name. and then the mother's name is also different.
the daily mail's podcast is good, there is a new episode out now

Thank you, and I've just listened to it, it does have a lot of detail.
I'll put a link to the latest episode:

 

[nothinonyou]

I saw what you posted earlier and just been struggling to find it. Seems they have edited the DNA part out now

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Wonder was it wrong that's why it's gone?

 

[Square Peg]

Unfortunately these monsters aren’t far from me. Drove past their house a fair number of times and always surprised to see it still standing.

Me too, drove through Normoss & Staining daily for work.

 

[nothinonyou]

Yes CPS authorised charges of SA on JMF so they must believe they have enough evidence of this.
It’s just so awful.

John was in the house that day as well so knew full well what happened. I think every other charge Jamie is alone with the baby but sending explicit pictures to John

 

[PaddyDomino]

Ahh so I wasn’t going crazy with not seeing it!

I screenshot it earlier this afternoon to post on here and then I didn't get a chance to, I wonder why it's been edited out?!

 

[Here2BNosey]

Sorry I'm not fully caught up on the thread so apologies if this is out of place. I've just been reading through some of the back articles on the Blackpool Gazette after the link was posted to Varleys interview.

I'm now even more confused on Varleys Teaching timeliness.
Apologies I'm shit with links but I'm pretty sure this is correct from various reporting.

He did his teacher training between 2019-2021 (incidentally during mostly covid and lockdown times, remember those days?......)

They began the adoption process in late 2021, and passed stage 1 of the process early 2022. Then they took a break before the 2nd part, I'm pretty sure it was said because he wanted to get his year 11s through their exams as he had had them from the start?
I'm sure one of his teacher colleagues said that. But how if that was his first year as a qualified teacher? Had he been head of year during training?
Also the thing about the prom was when they had Preston with them wasn't it? The meet up at the hotel with colleagues. So that would relate to year 11s/exams, but this is a year later in 2023.

Its not especially relevant i suppose but I can't figure it out.

 

[Upintheair83]

Yes, this is what I think, he was genuinely panicking in the hospital because he knew what he'd done and he knew he was caught.
It's so interesting what you say about leakage because he says I'm done, I'm going to hell, I effing killed him, he even says that he's going to be done for child neglect and that is exactly what his initial arrest was for.
He's literally telling us what he's done and what is going to happen!
I remember there was an FBI statement analyst called Peter Hyatt, he used to analyse the interviews and statements of Madeleine McCann's parents, and he used to say if a person tells you what they've done, believe them!
Another thing I remember him saying is that there are red flags in statements, for example, the number three is the liar's number and if it appears a lot in statements it's a red flag.
Another flag is a lot of talk about bathing and showers, it's a red flag for sexual abuse, and when I saw the amount of times Preston is mentioned as being in the bath, it did remind me of what Peter Hyatt had said.

Peter Hyatt was so interesting, would be great if he was still around to analyse.

 

[JarvisCockerSpaniel]

Yep! A dbs check is not really worth the paper it's written on as its only valid up until the point it is published. After that some places dont want one until 3 years after.

I keep seeing all these videos being released. Is this normal during a trial? I thought it was after the verdict they released everything?

Most will have to be on a rolling update service now, where it’s reviewed every year and can be checked by prospective employers/professionals at any time. I work with children and they won’t employ with just the standard DBS. But yes I agree it only highlights things you've been caught for.

I’m wondering about the footage too- I thought we weren’t supposed to be privy to things like that whilst a trial is ongoing?