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nothinonyou

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I have pics of my kids being bathed as babies and they are pretty much the same as the pics that other parents on this thread have described. Kid with bubble beard, kid with shampoo spiked hair, siblings having a bath together. You can't see lower than their belly button and my only comments of I sent it to their dad/my husband are "look who wants to be a folk singer/punk" or crappy bubble trouble puns (double bubble trouble when it was both kids). I remember taking one pic of my son's bum when he got hand foot and mouth and it was during COVID and my GP asked for it to confirm it was HFM and not chicken pox. Was deleted after I'd sent it and it very clearly was submitted to my GP and there's a record of the consultation
 
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TheMiceInTheShed

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This is why I do like the American judicial system better in this aspect. The filming of the trials and being able to watch it is really interesting and I think you can gauge a lot from reactions as well by the accused.
I think you can gauge a lot from reactions as well by the accused.

Definitely!
 
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sebanna

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Oh my god wow... 24 bruises to his head and even throat that poor baby... 6 weeks of this trial its going to reveal an awful lot I think the worst is yet to come!
JV is charged with a lot offences, murder, 2 counts of assault by penetration, sexual assault and 13 accounts of making indecent images. Poor baby.
 
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TheMiceInTheShed

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Unfortunately I've been feeling like all the info put out from the start has already been trying to suggest that the actual cause of death was suffocation/choking due to an oral sexual assault. Because that would then make sense as to why JV would claim Preston slipped underwater in the bath even though all he was obviously dry, when there'd be far more plausible cover stories ... unless he somehow needed to alert doctors that Preston had choked on or inhaled some kind of liquid (even if his own saliva) to get him the right emergency treatment.

Though I'd really love to be wrong for the sake of that poor baby 😞
This has been my thought from the very beginning of this trial, too. 😡
 
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Ghostranch

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It shocked me 4 days later after being matched he was placed with them I spoke to my mum about when she first met me and my sister we was adopted late 90/“ early 2000s they come and see us with out our knowledge first we was shopping and they see us then we had multiple visits at foster carers then had day visits at our parents then week ends then went for a week went back to foster carers for a weekend then we went and moved in we was adopted though courts about a year later , it was constant adoption courses they had the get references from employers and friends they went in the medical financial also wanted to know everything about my mum and dad from birth and as we were classed as look after children we had regular visits with social worker , any dr or hospital visits are flagged to social as you have a mark next to your name I don’t understand how they have let the ball down I can’t stop thinkhbg Bout Preston poor little boy , I would have thought the process has got tougher not easier with lack of supervision
That sounds like a much better way to do it. Of course a child is going to be unsettled if they are suddenly taken from everything they know. ☹
 
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Lucymyers

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Is this being reported live today? Can’t find any updates on MEN.

The fact JV had the door locked with the key in the door suggests something untoward was going on inside. I will lock the door if I’m bathing the kids or napping but to leave the key in suggests he didn’t want to be interrupted.
Not on today back mon
 
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All the things they have seized and fact findings so clearly going to have his sperm all over it... the bag of sex toys aswell cant bare thinking about 🤢🤮😪
 
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MaryLou32

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It's terrible. Just terrible. 😥

This is what ticking boxes and fulfilling "equality and diversity" quotas does - it places totally unsuitable people in positions where they can accidentally or intently - do harm, and ill-intentioned and incompetent people will gravitate towards it like moths to a flame., demanding their "rights", and the vulnerable and voiceless suffer - but somewhere an organisation can tick a box and bask in the glow of virtue.

Yet another baby has died in pain and terror, alone and helpless. Another social work department will doubtless claim that "lessons will be learned".

We all know that they won't, and that more children will suffer.

I know social workers are overworked - it is in so many ways a thankless task of drudgery - but so many babies and children suffer and die because the social workers are either frightened of the carers (in rough violent families of every class), or are blinded by the glamour of middle-class comfort/ professionalism or ticking a gay/ trans box and so ignore or miss signs that a blind man on a galloping horse at midnight would see clearly.

Bugger this for a system! :mad: :mad: :mad:
There is (as far as I have seen) any evidence to suggest Preston was placed with those monsters to tick equality and diversity boxes. Happy to be proved wrong.
 
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Square Peg

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Hidden for those who don’t want to read, it was mentioned in court on 27/04 the reason the prosecution believe the picture is indecent and sexual abuse.

The picture of Preston deliberately positioned and photographed slumped over the bars of the cot whilst asleep show liquid dripping from his mouth. Forensic swabs taken from the bars of the cot examined, stains consistent with the presence of fluid containing saliva, the microscopic characteristics of a sperm cell and a mixed DNA result that could have originated from cells from Preston and Mr McGowan-Fazackerly were found on that swab.
But that doesn’t prove anything came from Preston’s mouth apart from drool. They didn’t test his drool, they tested the cot bars. They can’t prove the sperm cells came from his drool. Believe me I wish they could.
 
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DIDDLY1

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I was confused by this too, but my teacher friend told me that a lot of their heads of years aren't actually PGCE qualified. So they can't teach a class, but can do a head of year / SENCO type role as they are more pastoral. To teach a class, you do your PGCE.
To teach children you need Qualified Teacher Status QTS without this your role is support. SENCOs always have QTS because of the nature of their role which is far more than pastoral. I know this because I have been in the profession since Noah counted the animals on to the arc. Then tried to count children getting on a bus for a field trip. The arc was a successful count, the bus not so good.
 
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PaddyDomino

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I’m pretty sure it was evidence revealed on the stand last week by the social worker, in relation to Preston’s biological family. I thought at the time it was breaching confidentiality.
Yes, and there was also some mention of a family member of the foster mother, I think, and I was wondering if that had breached confidentiality.
 
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flippa24

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I wonder if the indecent pictures were taken by JV so he could send them to other sickos on the internet :(
 
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