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Can I ask a bit of a potentially controversial question about food and the ‘no’ list?

Some of the things on the ‘no’ list when you’re pregnant make sense, like liver because of the vitamin A content. But some of it seems a bit… much? So. I can’t eat soft cheese like brie because it *might* have certain bacteria on it that might make me ill- but soft cheese has never made me ill in my entire life before and it’s really unlikely to do so now unless I leave it out in the burning sun for 3 weeks then make a cheeky Brie sandwich with it. Same with a steak not cooked to well done. The ‘dangerous’ part of a steak are the edges and not the middle. I’m not into rare steak anyway but I’m definitely not into beef that’s been turned into charcoal. I actively avoid pink burgers anyway because they can be dangerous (pretty sure one about ended me on holiday when I got E. coli…)

Where a food product is guaranteed to have something in it that can do harm, I completely and utterly get avoiding it like the plague or limiting intake (like whatever fish has increased mercury levels). But avoiding eating stuff that has never in nearly 40 years made me ill before ‘just in case’ seems a bit mind-blowing.

obviously, I’m following the guidelines. MrDragName is being meticulous about everything which is incredibly sweet. I guess this has come up for me because it’s my 40th this year and, as long as JuniorDragName continues to flourish, I will be pregnant on my birthday. MrDragName had already booked for us to go somewhere VERY fancy with a super posh tasting menu long before JuniorDragName became anything more than a dream. It’s super fancy, two Michelin stars and I’m going to be spoiled rotten and I’m so lucky. I will be able to tell them I’m pregnant and have an adapted menu but I’m kind of like - this is the crème de la creme of quality ingredients cooked to absolute perfection because their reputation relies on it. If the steak (as an example) is a bit pink inside or there’s a soft cheese, is that really a big deal? I obviously won’t drink alcohol and I wouldn’t opt for an optional cheese course.

I feel like a foetus-hating hole for asking this but Tattle is actually the least judgemental place I’ve ever hung out so I figure I’ll brave the question. Like I said, I’m following all the rules even though I’m a bit skeptical of some of them!
 
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If you’re going somewhere fancy with a set menu, just let them know a week or 2 before you go that you’re pregnant and they’ll adapt the menu and still make it fabulous for you.
I went out to a steak restaurant last night and Rib Eye is the best cut done well done so just go for that! It was still ever so slightly pink in the middle but that was perfect for me
 
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Can I ask a bit of a potentially controversial question about food and the ‘no’ list?

Some of the things on the ‘no’ list when you’re pregnant make sense, like liver because of the vitamin A content. But some of it seems a bit… much? So. I can’t eat soft cheese like brie because it *might* have certain bacteria on it that might make me ill- but soft cheese has never made me ill in my entire life before and it’s really unlikely to do so now unless I leave it out in the burning sun for 3 weeks then make a cheeky Brie sandwich with it. Same with a steak not cooked to well done. The ‘dangerous’ part of a steak are the edges and not the middle. I’m not into rare steak anyway but I’m definitely not into beef that’s been turned into charcoal. I actively avoid pink burgers anyway because they can be dangerous (pretty sure one about ended me on holiday when I got E. coli…)

Where a food product is guaranteed to have something in it that can do harm, I completely and utterly get avoiding it like the plague or limiting intake (like whatever fish has increased mercury levels). But avoiding eating stuff that has never in nearly 40 years made me ill before ‘just in case’ seems a bit mind-blowing.

obviously, I’m following the guidelines. MrDragName is being meticulous about everything which is incredibly sweet. I guess this has come up for me because it’s my 40th this year and, as long as JuniorDragName continues to flourish, I will be pregnant on my birthday. MrDragName had already booked for us to go somewhere VERY fancy with a super posh tasting menu long before JuniorDragName became anything more than a dream. It’s super fancy, two Michelin stars and I’m going to be spoiled rotten and I’m so lucky. I will be able to tell them I’m pregnant and have an adapted menu but I’m kind of like - this is the crème de la creme of quality ingredients cooked to absolute perfection because their reputation relies on it. If the steak (as an example) is a bit pink inside or there’s a soft cheese, is that really a big deal? I obviously won’t drink alcohol and I wouldn’t opt for an optional cheese course.

I feel like a foetus-hating hole for asking this but Tattle is actually the least judgemental place I’ve ever hung out so I figure I’ll brave the question. Like I said, I’m following all the rules even though I’m a bit skeptical of some of them!
I’ve had medium cooked steak throughout my pregnancy, which I appreciate is controversial. I’ve always bought good quality butchers meat and cooked it myself in a clean kitchen, which I suppose reduces some levels of risk.

I personally avoid alcohol and too much caffeine, but the food rules I’m less strict on, although I am 27 weeks now.
 
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Can I ask a bit of a potentially controversial question about food and the ‘no’ list?

Some of the things on the ‘no’ list when you’re pregnant make sense, like liver because of the vitamin A content. But some of it seems a bit… much? So. I can’t eat soft cheese like brie because it *might* have certain bacteria on it that might make me ill- but soft cheese has never made me ill in my entire life before and it’s really unlikely to do so now unless I leave it out in the burning sun for 3 weeks then make a cheeky Brie sandwich with it. Same with a steak not cooked to well done. The ‘dangerous’ part of a steak are the edges and not the middle. I’m not into rare steak anyway but I’m definitely not into beef that’s been turned into charcoal. I actively avoid pink burgers anyway because they can be dangerous (pretty sure one about ended me on holiday when I got E. coli…)

Where a food product is guaranteed to have something in it that can do harm, I completely and utterly get avoiding it like the plague or limiting intake (like whatever fish has increased mercury levels). But avoiding eating stuff that has never in nearly 40 years made me ill before ‘just in case’ seems a bit mind-blowing.

obviously, I’m following the guidelines. MrDragName is being meticulous about everything which is incredibly sweet. I guess this has come up for me because it’s my 40th this year and, as long as JuniorDragName continues to flourish, I will be pregnant on my birthday. MrDragName had already booked for us to go somewhere VERY fancy with a super posh tasting menu long before JuniorDragName became anything more than a dream. It’s super fancy, two Michelin stars and I’m going to be spoiled rotten and I’m so lucky. I will be able to tell them I’m pregnant and have an adapted menu but I’m kind of like - this is the crème de la creme of quality ingredients cooked to absolute perfection because their reputation relies on it. If the steak (as an example) is a bit pink inside or there’s a soft cheese, is that really a big deal? I obviously won’t drink alcohol and I wouldn’t opt for an optional cheese course.

I feel like a foetus-hating hole for asking this but Tattle is actually the least judgemental place I’ve ever hung out so I figure I’ll brave the question. Like I said, I’m following all the rules even though I’m a bit skeptical of some of them!
I think take it with a pinch of salt and make your own judgements. Some people follow 100% and some others will adapt I think it’s a personal choice

I would personally have the meal!!
 
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If you’re going somewhere fancy with a set menu, just let them know a week or 2 before you go that you’re pregnant and they’ll adapt the menu and still make it fabulous for you.
I went out to a steak restaurant last night and Rib Eye is the best cut done well done so just go for that! It was still ever so slightly pink in the middle but that was perfect for me
Yeah, that’s what I will do definitely. Everything has been paid for in advance so I’m not sure we can change our plans even if I wanted to. I’m just wondering about the rigidity of the rules. I’m not sat here craving a blue steak and a wheel of Brie or anything, haha!
 
I’ve had medium cooked steak throughout my pregnancy, which I appreciate is controversial. I’ve always bought good quality butchers meat and cooked it myself in a clean kitchen, which I suppose reduces some levels of risk.

I personally avoid alcohol and too much caffeine, but the food rules I’m less strict on, although I am 27 weeks now.
I’m avoiding alcohol completely for sure and, although it’s really hard because I’m a coffee snob, I’m having one solitary filter coffee a day, followed by one decaf to trick my brain into thinking nothing has changed, then it’s onto fruity teas with zero caffeinated products in them. I don’t eat a lot of steak or anything, it’s more those occasions where to eat it anything more cooked than medium (which is my preference anyway) would ruin it!
 
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I think take it with a pinch of salt and make your own judgements. Some people follow 100% and some others will adapt I think it’s a personal choice

I would personally have the meal!!
I’m obviously scared of doing anything dangerous so I wouldn’t eat foie gras (don’t eat it anyway tbh, I’m not exactly posh!) but yeah, the food isn’t going to be any better quality or any better cooked! There is only a sample menu on the website so nearer the time we’ll enquire and I think you can switch between the meat eaters and plant-based options anyway.
 
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Hi, I’ve recently found out I’m pregnant again and I’m terrified as all previous pregnancies have ended in loss. I’ve been testing daily like a maniac as my last pregnancy ended in a blighted ovum and I had slow progressing lines which I think was an early indication of things being wrong.

I’m scared it’s happening again. I’m 24 or 25 dpo and my tests are STILL not quite as dark as control line (using Wondfo), and just don’t seem to have changed the past few days.

If anyone else is a serial tester, then I’d be really grateful to see any progression pics for a successful pregnancy. I have an early scan on Saturday when I’ll be 6w1 so I guess all will be revealed then, but I’m desperate for some hope in the meantime 😔
 
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Can I ask a bit of a potentially controversial question about food and the ‘no’ list?

Some of the things on the ‘no’ list when you’re pregnant make sense, like liver because of the vitamin A content. But some of it seems a bit… much? So. I can’t eat soft cheese like brie because it *might* have certain bacteria on it that might make me ill- but soft cheese has never made me ill in my entire life before and it’s really unlikely to do so now unless I leave it out in the burning sun for 3 weeks then make a cheeky Brie sandwich with it. Same with a steak not cooked to well done. The ‘dangerous’ part of a steak are the edges and not the middle. I’m not into rare steak anyway but I’m definitely not into beef that’s been turned into charcoal. I actively avoid pink burgers anyway because they can be dangerous (pretty sure one about ended me on holiday when I got E. coli…)

Where a food product is guaranteed to have something in it that can do harm, I completely and utterly get avoiding it like the plague or limiting intake (like whatever fish has increased mercury levels). But avoiding eating stuff that has never in nearly 40 years made me ill before ‘just in case’ seems a bit mind-blowing.

obviously, I’m following the guidelines. MrDragName is being meticulous about everything which is incredibly sweet. I guess this has come up for me because it’s my 40th this year and, as long as JuniorDragName continues to flourish, I will be pregnant on my birthday. MrDragName had already booked for us to go somewhere VERY fancy with a super posh tasting menu long before JuniorDragName became anything more than a dream. It’s super fancy, two Michelin stars and I’m going to be spoiled rotten and I’m so lucky. I will be able to tell them I’m pregnant and have an adapted menu but I’m kind of like - this is the crème de la creme of quality ingredients cooked to absolute perfection because their reputation relies on it. If the steak (as an example) is a bit pink inside or there’s a soft cheese, is that really a big deal? I obviously won’t drink alcohol and I wouldn’t opt for an optional cheese course.

I feel like a foetus-hating hole for asking this but Tattle is actually the least judgemental place I’ve ever hung out so I figure I’ll brave the question. Like I said, I’m following all the rules even though I’m a bit skeptical of some of them!
I avoided liver/paté but I pretty much had everything else - medium rare steak, a little bite of soft cheese here or there. And probably 4 glasses of wine total the whole time (all in third tri). I had the same thought, if the risk is me perhaps getting ill which I never have in my whole life it seems so stupid. The meal sounds amazing, enjoy it!
 
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Hi, I’ve recently found out I’m pregnant again and I’m terrified as all previous pregnancies have ended in loss. I’ve been testing daily like a maniac as my last pregnancy ended in a blighted ovum and I had slow progressing lines which I think was an early indication of things being wrong.

I’m scared it’s happening again. I’m 24 or 25 dpo and my tests are STILL not quite as dark as control line (using Wondfo), and just don’t seem to have changed the past few days.

If anyone else is a serial tester, then I’d be really grateful to see any progression pics for a successful pregnancy. I have an early scan on Saturday when I’ll be 6w1 so I guess all will be revealed then, but I’m desperate for some hope in the meantime 😔
I’m too early to say whether it’s going to be successful or not but my first few lines were faint AF. The advice I had was that line progression is not always linear and that’s not always a ‘bad’ thing, so you will potentially need to take your test results with a bit of a pinch of salt if they’re a little variable. I’ll keep everything crossed for your scan on Saturday ❤❤
 
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@ThisIsMyDragName I'm reading 'expecting better' which covers some of the topics about food an dother warnings. Soft cheese the deals is eating unpasteurized stuff really. You are also turning 40 this year? Seems our experiences will be similar.
To me the thing of recommendations that has me dead is thr no to poached eggs because of salmonella risk and chossing my coffee over tea.
In general I think the guidelines are the way they are because of people that don't have enough criteria. Like no coffee, so you don't drink 2 liters of coffee and coke a day. Not the "i have an espresso per day and that's it".
 
Can I ask a bit of a potentially controversial question about food and the ‘no’ list?

Some of the things on the ‘no’ list when you’re pregnant make sense, like liver because of the vitamin A content. But some of it seems a bit… much? So. I can’t eat soft cheese like brie because it *might* have certain bacteria on it that might make me ill- but soft cheese has never made me ill in my entire life before and it’s really unlikely to do so now unless I leave it out in the burning sun for 3 weeks then make a cheeky Brie sandwich with it. Same with a steak not cooked to well done. The ‘dangerous’ part of a steak are the edges and not the middle. I’m not into rare steak anyway but I’m definitely not into beef that’s been turned into charcoal. I actively avoid pink burgers anyway because they can be dangerous (pretty sure one about ended me on holiday when I got E. coli…)

Where a food product is guaranteed to have something in it that can do harm, I completely and utterly get avoiding it like the plague or limiting intake (like whatever fish has increased mercury levels). But avoiding eating stuff that has never in nearly 40 years made me ill before ‘just in case’ seems a bit mind-blowing.

obviously, I’m following the guidelines. MrDragName is being meticulous about everything which is incredibly sweet. I guess this has come up for me because it’s my 40th this year and, as long as JuniorDragName continues to flourish, I will be pregnant on my birthday. MrDragName had already booked for us to go somewhere VERY fancy with a super posh tasting menu long before JuniorDragName became anything more than a dream. It’s super fancy, two Michelin stars and I’m going to be spoiled rotten and I’m so lucky. I will be able to tell them I’m pregnant and have an adapted menu but I’m kind of like - this is the crème de la creme of quality ingredients cooked to absolute perfection because their reputation relies on it. If the steak (as an example) is a bit pink inside or there’s a soft cheese, is that really a big deal? I obviously won’t drink alcohol and I wouldn’t opt for an optional cheese course.

I feel like a foetus-hating hole for asking this but Tattle is actually the least judgemental place I’ve ever hung out so I figure I’ll brave the question. Like I said, I’m following all the rules even though I’m a bit skeptical of some of them!
Possibly controversial but I don’t follow any of the guidelines for this 🙈 I had rare steak with blue cheese for dinner the other night, I eat cold cuts and salami, runny eggs, as much coffee as I want and more. Have had a couple of sips of my bf’s wine/beer now and then as well.
The only thing I avoid is pate because it’s gross 🤢 honestly you’re more likely to get ill from prebagged salad.
Saunas and steam rooms are still my favourite thing too.
I’m an “everything in moderation” person and continue the same mindset in pregnancy.
 
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Can I ask a bit of a potentially controversial question about food and the ‘no’ list?

Some of the things on the ‘no’ list when you’re pregnant make sense, like liver because of the vitamin A content. But some of it seems a bit… much? So. I can’t eat soft cheese like brie because it *might* have certain bacteria on it that might make me ill- but soft cheese has never made me ill in my entire life before and it’s really unlikely to do so now unless I leave it out in the burning sun for 3 weeks then make a cheeky Brie sandwich with it. Same with a steak not cooked to well done. The ‘dangerous’ part of a steak are the edges and not the middle. I’m not into rare steak anyway but I’m definitely not into beef that’s been turned into charcoal. I actively avoid pink burgers anyway because they can be dangerous (pretty sure one about ended me on holiday when I got E. coli…)

Where a food product is guaranteed to have something in it that can do harm, I completely and utterly get avoiding it like the plague or limiting intake (like whatever fish has increased mercury levels). But avoiding eating stuff that has never in nearly 40 years made me ill before ‘just in case’ seems a bit mind-blowing.

obviously, I’m following the guidelines. MrDragName is being meticulous about everything which is incredibly sweet. I guess this has come up for me because it’s my 40th this year and, as long as JuniorDragName continues to flourish, I will be pregnant on my birthday. MrDragName had already booked for us to go somewhere VERY fancy with a super posh tasting menu long before JuniorDragName became anything more than a dream. It’s super fancy, two Michelin stars and I’m going to be spoiled rotten and I’m so lucky. I will be able to tell them I’m pregnant and have an adapted menu but I’m kind of like - this is the crème de la creme of quality ingredients cooked to absolute perfection because their reputation relies on it. If the steak (as an example) is a bit pink inside or there’s a soft cheese, is that really a big deal? I obviously won’t drink alcohol and I wouldn’t opt for an optional cheese course.

I feel like a foetus-hating hole for asking this but Tattle is actually the least judgemental place I’ve ever hung out so I figure I’ll brave the question. Like I said, I’m following all the rules even though I’m a bit skeptical of some of them!
The only reason they say about steak and soft cheese etc is the increased bacteria risk but you're not more at risk than if you weren't pregnant. All it means is IF the very unlikely event you were to get ill the baby might be at risk. Soft cheese is absolutely fine if hot. I don't like liver or blue cheese anyway. As someone above said there's plenty of 'safe' foods you're more likely to get food poisoning from.

I've made absolutely no adjustments to my diet other than reducing caffeine and cutting alcohol. I've had medium rare steak, eggs, soft cheese, antipasti etc.
 
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Caffeine is one I struggle with I have one coffee a day now then try to stick to decaffeinated drinks but sometimes I give in and have enough to be able to cope at work. Just gotta do what you can to get through the day sometimes!
I ate pate at the start of my pregnancy before I knew was pregnant and seems to have made no difference so far. (I mean I'm only 14 weeks now)
Its always interesting hearing everyone's experience! I do really want to eat Stilton and brie 😂
 
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I had a wine yesterday with dinner and tbh it tasted like absolute tit and I’m very much a wine snob so I won’t be bothering again
 
I didn’t eat anything on the “not safe” list because I’m picky and don’t like any of it anyway 😂
I did miss rare steak and alcohol (plus my beloved banana flavour vapes 🤭) but obviously alcohol and nicotine there’s a bit more solid evidence as to why we shouldn’t have them.
As for cheeses, cured meats etc etc - I think it’s all to do with how they are kept as well - for example a 2 Michelin star restaurant will be using top end produce and keep it refrigerated and prepare it in extremely clean areas so less likely to get sick than from say a food truck? I guess it’s just your judgement.

I will say I got food poisoning TWICE in the second tri once from McDonald’s and once from a Chinese and me and baby are both fine 😂
 
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I think you just have to make your own mind and be happy with it. It’s risky to drive a car but you’re not going to avoid it for 9 months incase you crash.
I find it interesting to see what other countries do too, like in Sweden pregnant women aren’t discouraged from using saunas.
 
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I had some lovely smoked salmon this morning and some sushi a few weeks back.
I felt my body craved it. I’m not eating it everyday.
I was terrified to eat anything on the naughty list in my first two pregnancies and they ended in miscarriages. This time I’m sensible but not terrified of every single bit of advice.
 
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I agree with being sensible but not having to be crazy OTT. I follow most of the food rules as I don’t really like undercooked meat/eggs or soft cheese anyway. I’ve not had any alcohol as I don’t see the point of having a tiny bit. I like to drink to feel merry and then that would be too much! I do have a hot bath 2/3 times a week though and I know that’s not recommended. I just keep the window open so I don’t get too hot and would get out if I didn’t feel well
 
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Thanks everyone! This all feels a lot more balanced. I don’t like liver or blue cheese but no brie and no smoked salmon? Cruel!

It’s my understanding that eggs in any form are ok if they have the British lion stamp on them? Even if you were to have them raw (which is not something I do often but some desserts have raw egg in like mousse). I most frequently would have eggs in an omelette anyway or scrambled (preferably with smoked salmon!) though so I’m not trying to split hairs for no reason.

I’m probably just going to carry on being sensible but if the opportunity to get my chops around a medium steak from a reputable place comes along, then I’m taking it.

The thing I am doing that is a bit of a shocker is I’m still vaping, however I have switched to completely nicotine-free juice since I found out I’m pregnant and I’m now trying to wean myself off. It’s bad, and it’s going to look bleeping awful when I have a bump even if I know there’s no nicotine. I must be honest that the fact that I use a menthol juice really helps with my nausea. The internet is conflicted. Harm minimisation says vaping with nicotine is better than smoking, but that vaping generally still might be bad, nicotine or not. I guess giving up Brie is my penance!
 
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