It's not just a nice smooth lowering though, during peri our progesterone tanks and oestrogen goes up and down all over the place before eventually tanking too. HRT helps level out the fluctuations so making life much better if you are in the right one for you, menopause still happens but should be more in the background, its not delayed. There are things that can help your body adjust, good diet and exercise for example and I find cold water dipping useful but that doesn't actually replace the hormones we're missing so doesn't protect our bodies and there is increasing evidence that long term hormone depletion increases the risk of alzhiemers, heart disease and osteoporosis so the more I investigate the more I support the early and long term use of modern types of HRT for most women.
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I follow Dr Mary Claire and she has some great information on peri menopause and menopause. She advocates taking HRT as early as possible to help keep estrogen levels high. I think the stigma with HRT has lessen and people see why it has benefits
What is up with the memory thing? I can't remember an episode of a TV show I've watched, whole conversations. It's getting like I have dementia! Only good news for me lately is I managed to lose 6.5 lbs but even though I still have the stomach and I don't even weigh that much. It just all accumilates there! So annoying.
I've got some quite pronounced symptoms in some ways (joint pain, weight around my middle and a general feeling of 'oh tit') but no hot flushes or brain fog (yet!). I'm trying to educate myself and feel it's almost impossible to make an informed judgment about HRT now. The pendulum seems to have gone from being very anti HRT to being wholly supportive. I see lots of 'menopause doctors' (and they are qualified doctors) telling us about the preventative benefits of HRT in terms of dropping the risk of cardiovascular disease on top of the impact it has on menopause symptoms that it almost seems like a no brainer to take it but then you see doctors like Liz O'Riordan say that isn't quite true. So what is it?
People saying things like 'you have to make the right decision for you' don't help. It's so hard to find facts.
People saying things like 'you have to make the right decision for you' don't help. It's so hard to find facts.
I’m hoping I’m finally heading towards menopause as I have been in peri for nearly 10 years! My hot flushes have only started in the last year and especially night sweats.
My brain fog is terrible. Nearly all my friends are on HRT and it does seem like everyone recommends it nowadays but then my hairdresser said she didn’t get on with it and I have read about others that didn’t fair well on it either.
I suppose it’s trial and error but I feel I’ve managed for nearly 10 years without it and I’m nearly at the final hurdle
Funnily enough my Dad and I have just had this conversation with my 77 year old Mum. She has severe joint pain and we both think she should try HRT. I told her the research into all the functions hormones carry out is so poor that they still don't know which hormone does what and they're discovering new ones.
Until about 4 years ago I could remember most of my secondary school classmates names. Now, almost none 
Constant anxiety and depression? Always had it but feels worse now. I could handle everything else if it wasn't for this.
Looking into supplements, ordered st John's wort and feeling less tired after taking a multi vit the last few months.
Constant anxiety and depression? Always had it but feels worse now. I could handle everything else if it wasn't for this.
Looking into supplements, ordered st John's wort and feeling less tired after taking a multi vit the last few months.
I'm thinking of putting things down on a word document, so when I'm old I remember things like this. I honestly don't know how to get my short term memory back.Until about 4 years ago I could remember most of my secondary school classmates names. Now, almost none
Constant anxiety and depression? Always had it but feels worse now. I could handle everything else if it wasn't for this.
Looking into supplements, ordered st John's wort and feeling less tired after taking a multi vit the last few months.
The only symptoms I have now after taking HRT for a year is Anxiety, brain fog and tiredness.
I can’t remember the details (ah the irony!) but st john’s wort reacts with some drugs so give it a google just in case.Until about 4 years ago I could remember most of my secondary school classmates names. Now, almost none
Constant anxiety and depression? Always had it but feels worse now. I could handle everything else if it wasn't for this.
Looking into supplements, ordered st John's wort and feeling less tired after taking a multi vit the last few months.
Thanks, I'll have a look
Highly recommend black cohosh root from boots for sweats/flashes, stopped mine dead, though I read that you're not supposed to take them for longer than a few months.
Those are the three main symptoms I have so if HRT doesn't improve them then is there any point in it? Like others say it's so hard to find definitive advice on it.
Have to say HRT has helped my tiredness and brain fog - although I’m also taking lions mane for brain fog too. I may have said this before but I didn’t think I was that bad and doubted in some ways I was peri but now I’m on the HRT I can see how bad I was.
It’s just the usual isn’t it - women’s health and treatment isn’t valued so I imagine there’s no enough research into HRT for them to give better clearer advice cos we are supposed to just put up with it.
It’s just the usual isn’t it - women’s health and treatment isn’t valued so I imagine there’s no enough research into HRT for them to give better clearer advice cos we are supposed to just put up with it.
I've bitten the bullet and made a phone call appt with mr Dr for the end of Feb.
I've been putting it off for a while now but I'm sure I'm experiencing peri symptoms. I'm 42 and I'm so sick of the aches and pains muscle wise, joints are always sore, I only sleep properly 2ish out of 7 nights, so during the day I'm SO tired - I have vivid dreams where I'm only semi asleep, and I am boiling hot thought out the night, my periods are regular but have gone from 4 days of bleeding to just the 1
I'm forgetful and find it hard sometimes to get my words out.
I'm sure there's more but this can't be normal!
I've been putting it off for a while now but I'm sure I'm experiencing peri symptoms. I'm 42 and I'm so sick of the aches and pains muscle wise, joints are always sore, I only sleep properly 2ish out of 7 nights, so during the day I'm SO tired - I have vivid dreams where I'm only semi asleep, and I am boiling hot thought out the night, my periods are regular but have gone from 4 days of bleeding to just the 1
I'm forgetful and find it hard sometimes to get my words out.I'm sure there's more but this can't be normal!
Hi all, can anyone tell me the guidelines for prescribing HRT for under 45's in Scotland, because I though there was some leeway with not having to wait till you were over that age? I've been begging my docs for HRT for two years, been in peri probably about 4/5, yet I've been told no repeatedly. I had one blood test a year ago which came back ok, so at my last appointment last week I told them I'd be making an appointment for the day I turn 45 to get it. Bloody sick of this, so anxious I could jump out a window, they referred me to mental health services for that who palmed me off completely (despite being under an immense amount of stress due to childs illness, suffering from, c-ptsd, and having had serious mental health issues which I was hospitalised for when I was younger). I've horrific cramp for days then period lasts half a day (if that, i get it sometimes one a month, sometimes every two weeks, sometumes every six weeks, just whenever it feels it), hot flushes which make me feel im going to simultaneously vomit and pass out i get so warm, zero *ahem* "drive", memory going, I could go on and on but you guys obviously know exactly where I'm coming from. I think this having to wait till you're 45 is shocking, my OH said, oh, it's only 7 months away, I nearly lost the nut with him lol he's not the one suffering this garbage 
Has anyone here gotten it under 45 on the NHS with a "normal" blood test? I was going to go private for it a year ago but needed the money as my child's been unwell, I'm thinking of living on toast and beans if it means I can feel even partially normal again. I'm so sorry to everyone here who is suffering too, I know many have said this in the past but if it were men going through it there'd be far more treatment options. *Sigh*.
Has anyone here gotten it under 45 on the NHS with a "normal" blood test? I was going to go private for it a year ago but needed the money as my child's been unwell, I'm thinking of living on toast and beans if it means I can feel even partially normal again. I'm so sorry to everyone here who is suffering too, I know many have said this in the past but if it were men going through it there'd be far more treatment options. *Sigh*.
HRT has helped me massively with those symptoms, was a gradual improvement over about 6 months but so much better now
@Cheezychips I got it through my women's physio - family history of osteoporosis and removal of ovary with tumour attached. I was told when I had the surgery the body compensates for any decrease in hormones and I wouldn't need HRT. Unsurprisingly my physio sent a strongly-worded letter to all involved and that was my way in. They should follow NICE guidelines in the absence of SIGN guidelines but I am not sure what the current situation is and I suspect most GPs don't keep up to date.
Im my experience, newly-qualified GPs, and locums, always seem to be more amenable to finding a workable solution as well.
Im my experience, newly-qualified GPs, and locums, always seem to be more amenable to finding a workable solution as well.
Has anyone come off antidepressants whilst taking hrt. I'm a complete mess at moment and OH just doesn't understand. I don't understand so can't expect him to.
Have had what felt like palpitations today and anxiety for a few days. Went for a walk and to the gym but felt so paranoid I just had a coffee and left. I'm sure it'll pass.
Have had what felt like palpitations today and anxiety for a few days. Went for a walk and to the gym but felt so paranoid I just had a coffee and left. I'm sure it'll pass.
That's good to hear. I'm well into my fifties now so wondering if it's a bit late.
This is a good article. It's such a complicated area these days
So I started the additional oestrogen patch saturday night (I'm on a Saturday/Wednesday schedule). They reckon 3-5 days to start seeing results and I slept a lot better last night I must admit.
Only downside is that between this patch and the Evorel patch I'm beginning to feel like a parcel
Only downside is that between this patch and the Evorel patch I'm beginning to feel like a parcel
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