Well, nobody’s perfect!He looks like the Joker!
Well, nobody’s perfect!He looks like the Joker!
feels depressingly commonplace, especially in Hollywood and especially in that era.Just reading about Maximilian Schell who died a few years ago and shocked to find out he's been accused of sexual abuse by both his niece and daughter. Sounds credible too. Can't look at him the same way now in films.
There was similar claims with Yves Montand and Klaus Kinski. Great actors but vile child molesters apparently
I’ve listened to it, found it really interesting.feels depressingly commonplace, especially in Hollywood and especially in that era.
has anyone listened to the Root of Evil podcast? It’s about the black dahlia murder and it’s links to Hollywood corruption (sort of).
He looks like the Joker!
Just reading up on Vera, apparently withdrew from public life due to loosing a child to SIDS. She died of ovarian cancer age 60.Don’t think anybody has mentioned Rita Hayworth? Part Spanish but Hollywood gave her a makeover which basically got rid of any Spanish heritage which is a shame but she’s so gorgeous, ultimate femme fatale imo.
Also Vera Ellen who I think is the best dancer to ever grace Hollywood. People speculated she always wore high necks to hide the effects of an ED but not sure how I feel speculating about that given I don’t think she ever spoke about having an ED. She stepped out of the lime light and I barley hear anyone mention her which is a shame because she’s so talented
Rita was used by everyone. She admitted to Orson Welles that her dad used to abuse her. Her mother and father used to dance but after having kids, her mother gave it up and she was taken out of school at 12 to do it instead. Some of the dances they did were very erotic and had people talking and thinking they were an actual couple rather than father and daughter. It turned out he was assaulting her and as well as physically beating her. Her mother knew and did all she could to stop it, even sleeping with her in the same bed.Don’t think anybody has mentioned Rita Hayworth? Part Spanish but Hollywood gave her a makeover which basically got rid of any Spanish heritage which is a shame but she’s so gorgeous, ultimate femme fatale imo.
Also Vera Ellen who I think is the best dancer to ever grace Hollywood. People speculated she always wore high necks to hide the effects of an ED but not sure how I feel speculating about that given I don’t think she ever spoke about having an ED. She stepped out of the lime light and I barley hear anyone mention her which is a shame because she’s so talented
Yes, they did, within the confines of what was actually possible back then. There was one actress who ended up with a nose prosthetic because of early nose surgery that went wrong. The rest was pure glamour ie. artificiality which was expected, unlike now where there's an expectation that a woman look uber-glam AND 'natural' (which seems to mean bearing no signs of artificial improvements while having all of them money can buy, and a pro glamour squad). I think half of this weird expectation of natural' glam is down to technology - the horrible intrusion of high res digital camera that amplify any texture or pore or stray hair into something that wouldn't even be noticed at all with the normal human eye in real life.It's funny when people say actresses were more natural back in the day because 90% of the time, they did have surgery to fix stuff that the studio heads thought needed fixing, it's only that it wasn't talked about then like it is now. Marilyn, Greta Garbo, Marlene Dietrich and were just a few among many who had stuff done.
The Pre-Plastic-Surgery Era: 4 Weird Ways Old Hollywood Stars Changed Their Faces
If you think today's stars go to extremes, think again.www.marieclaire.com
Awww thanks for that.I’ve just spent an hour catching up on this thread, it’s absolutely brilliant. I’ve not seen them mentioned before but there are two fantastic books by Jackie Ganiy, about old Hollywood murders. They are on kindle unlimited aswelll.
If anyone’s interested in old Hollywood scandals it can be a real rabbit hole. Some had controversy around them but just died young like Valentino but it seems half of Hollywood in the 1920s had drug and alcohol addictions. Gun crime and suicide was prevelent too. Links to people below are good starting points.
“A spate of newspaper-driven Hollywood scandals during the early 1920s included William Desmond Taylor's murder, the Roscoe Arbuckle trial, the death of Olive Thomas, the mysterious death of Thomas H. Ince, and the drug- or alcohol-related deaths of Wallace Reid, Barbara La Marr, and Jeanne Eagels, all of which prompted Hollywood studios to begin writing contracts with "morality clauses" or "moral turpitude clauses", allowing the dismissal of contractees who breached them.”
Mable Normand’s name comes up all over these cases too.
Ann Miller was fabulous!