This 100%
Although medicine, traditionally male dominated although no longer, is going the same way, with consultant pay falling in real terms by 20% over the last 10 years.
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Although medicine, traditionally male dominated although no longer, is going the same way, with consultant pay falling in real terms by 20% over the last 10 years.
I applied to do nursing at university 3 years ago and sadly despite having all the UCAS points and them loving me in the interview I didn't get on due to not getting the Maths grade required because of the stupid predicted grades nonsense during covid. Many people I know ended up in the same boat and either just gave up or like me went onto another course whilst we waited to be able to do the Maths that is required for the course.
My university said that a whole load of nursing students were lost due to covid and the predicted grades that no one could do anything about and since then the UCAS tarrifs have gone up, I even did nursing for health professionals but that still wasn't enough. I'd be nearly qualified by now if I'd been able to do the degree, but unfortunately covid messed alot up for potential nursing students.
I've reapplied but there are such a small amount of spaces for each degree and university its hard even to know if you'll be offered a place.
Honestly I can’t evenAnd here lies the problem. The NHS won’t collapse if those who are unhappy with the profession leave, despite the obviously inflated opinion you have of nurses. There will be other nurses who stay for the right reasons. Nurses who don’t want to put vulnerable people at risk by striking (I know who I’d rather have looking after me). What a very high opinion you have to think that there’ll be ‘no nurses to look after people’ if the ones who aren’t happy leaveLet’s clap some more pots eh?
Do you have any concept at all of what it is like in hospitals right now? When I was in uni 10 years ago nurse to patient ratios on the wards were usually 1:4. It’s now more like 1:8 or even 1:12, or even more at night time, sometimes just one or two nurses covering a full ward of patients overnight. Do you have any idea how dangerous that is?? There are 40,000 vacant nurses posts. We can’t afford to lose any more nurses. There will not “always be nurses” what are you talking about?
It’s worth keeping trying if you want to do it. I have a friend who had to quit her nursing degree as she couldn’t manage the mathematics portion for drug calcs etc, she has since re entered nursing and is about to qualify. She will be a fantastic nurse.
A similar issue (I teach English as a foreign language) is the langauge exam they need to pass, is involves thigns that are totally irrevent for practical work, a lot of the people I teach from overseas wanting to go into nursing fall at this (totally unfair) hurdle
I agree 100% I think the fact that the only way of getting into nursing is going to uni makes it harder for people
Not everyone can go uni, not everyone is great at academics but can learn quick and efficiently on the job
I can’t believe that with the shortages the most cost effective and quick recruitment method, apprenticeships, hasn’t been pushed through
A lot of people in this thread would probably agree that nurses shouldn't be paid. They should survive on the sheer joy of caring for people.
I doubt anyone would agree with that statement. But whatever to make you feel better.
I agree that you need a certain amount of maths knowledge such as for medications etc....but I'm getting ready to sit an exam full of algebra and stuff its ridiculous. I'd gotten places at 4/4 of the unis I applied for but I couldn't get onto any of them as they absolutely would not take me without that C/4/level 2 in maths.
What IELTS (the exam they have to pass to practise here) is not maths at all, it is written exams, reading exams, totally irrevelevent to anything scientific or practical. These are examples: https://www.ielts.org/for-test-takers/sample-test-questions
Personally I know native English speakers who failed the reading and writing parts of the exam
That’s what put my sister off nursing a few years back, she’s no maths GCSE and hasn’t got the option of doing a year GCSE in a college as she’s got kids and works shifts. It’s bleepin ludicrous
But a massive good luck for your exam, you got this x
I've been hearing out of 300,000 only 10,000 striking and these were supplemented by the just stop oil mob. That union leader is on crazy money 
If there wasn't Blanket media coverage idk if anyone would notice any difference
I think everyone's equally corrupt. All workers need more money and gov could do that if they stopped HS2, got rid of the 100,000 illegal albanians etc. The unions have obvs all co-ordinated the strikes. We're in the grip of the socialists, all institutions. Its wrecking the UK. There no end in sight, no leadership and labour set to be next leaders.
If there wasn't Blanket media coverage idk if anyone would notice any difference
I think everyone's equally corrupt. All workers need more money and gov could do that if they stopped HS2, got rid of the 100,000 illegal albanians etc. The unions have obvs all co-ordinated the strikes. We're in the grip of the socialists, all institutions. Its wrecking the UK. There no end in sight, no leadership and labour set to be next leaders.
How on earth are we in the grip of socialists?! The country is in the state its in right now because of 12 years of Tory rule. It's getting really hard to convincingly blame anything else at this point.I've been hearing out of 300,000 only 10,000 striking and these were supplemented by the just stop oil mob. That union leader is on crazy money
If there wasn't Blanket media coverage idk if anyone would notice any difference
I think everyone's equally corrupt. All workers need more money and gov could do that if they stopped HS2, got rid of the 100,000 illegal albanians etc. The unions have obvs all co-ordinated the strikes. We're in the grip of the socialists, all institutions. Its wrecking the UK. There no end in sight, no leadership and labour set to be next leaders.
Don't worry, the Tories will manage it come election time again. I get the sense that those pesky asylum seekers are going to be the first group to get the blame and it will be very effective... as it always is
sorry but I just find your views almost hysterical, you’re practically echoing the likes of the daily mail headlines saying “in the grip of socialists” ffs really? Really?I've been hearing out of 300,000 only 10,000 striking and these were supplemented by the just stop oil mob. That union leader is on crazy money
If there wasn't Blanket media coverage idk if anyone would notice any difference
I think everyone's equally corrupt. All workers need more money and gov could do that if they stopped HS2, got rid of the 100,000 illegal albanians etc. The unions have obvs all co-ordinated the strikes. We're in the grip of the socialists, all institutions. Its wrecking the UK. There no end in sight, no leadership and labour set to be next leaders.
This just sounds like 'Everything's crap, so why bother fixing this one single (nurses pay) thing'I've been hearing out of 300,000 only 10,000 striking and these were supplemented by the just stop oil mob. That union leader is on crazy money
If there wasn't Blanket media coverage idk if anyone would notice any difference
I think everyone's equally corrupt. All workers need more money and gov could do that if they stopped HS2, got rid of the 100,000 illegal albanians etc. The unions have obvs all co-ordinated the strikes. We're in the grip of the socialists, all institutions. Its wrecking the UK. There no end in sight, no leadership and labour set to be next leaders.
So they should just work regardless of what they are paid?
I've been hearing out of 300,000 only 10,000 striking and these were supplemented by the just stop oil mob. That union leader is on crazy money
If there wasn't Blanket media coverage idk if anyone would notice any difference
I think everyone's equally corrupt. All workers need more money and gov could do that if they stopped HS2, got rid of the 100,000 illegal albanians etc. The unions have obvs all co-ordinated the strikes. We're in the grip of the socialists, all institutions. Its wrecking the UK. There no end in sight, no leadership and labour set to be next leaders.
the nazis have arrived everyone I mean this thread really does have it all
Oh the irony
I mean this thread really does have it all
Albanian migrants causing nurses to be paid poorly, I’ve heard it all now
I mean this thread really does have it all
Oh and here comes a man to tell us all how it should be. With his snappy original insightful little come backs.
The fact of the matter is the whole country is on its backside - nobody’s wages have increased in line with inflation! Why should nurses be any different to the rest of us?? Oh, because they “save lives”? Not saving lives when they’re withdrawing their labour are they.