Agree about footballers behaving like scumbags but sleeping with prostitutes is not the same as abusing women in the way Clarke is alleged.Gutted about Noel Clarke always liked him... however footballers have been openly doing shit like this and worse for years, Wayne Rooney has sex with prostitutes yet was allowed to be paid millions for playing football still? They’re all disgusting scum bags yet are praised on the pitch. And nobody says a thing. If they outed every dick head like this in the public eye we’d be here forever so this does feel slightly like a witch hunt whilst all the other scum bags still get paid and glorified. David beckham?! The list is endless!!! I’m not saying what he did was right, but he looks talks and acts a certain way for people to say “I never trusted him” when in fact much much bigger predators are probably publicly well spoken white and middle class.
your son has a 210% more chance of being sexually assaulted. let’s worry more about that.Look I’m not going to get into a debate about did he / didn’t he because I’m not the women and I’m not him so I can’t say, at the moment it’s their words against his, plus I’ve said above there’s no smoke without fire and how brave those women are for saying what they are if it’s true.
However- I am disagreeing with this culture of ‘if a women says it it must be true’. I’m a mother of a son and a daughter and I fear for my son growing into a world where a woman could say anything about him and it would be assumed to be true. That’s all.
The people accusing?
This is a similar situation to one that unfolded where many were defending (‘not defending - challenging a criminal trial and evidence) Oscar Pistorius in his thread. No offence to those calling this a ‘trial by media’ but nothing satisfies some people, some like to play on the element of doubt. In the case of OP the courts decision was not enough. It’s better to leave those people with doubts about NC with their doubts don’t entangle or engage in debate convinced that you will change opinions. A fruitless and futile exercise. Historically ‘trial by media’ is phrase used by guilty people or organisations to diminish or deflect blame.@Lollypop29 Why exactly do you need to hear Noel’s side of the story so badly for? It’s pretty clear what he’s done and has done for many years, there’s nothing that can justify it, there’s no excuses, what exactly are you expecting? I feel like you just want to hold the women accountable in some way, almost like they must’ve done something or said something to cause him do what he’s done?
Huh? This isn’t about me it’s for them! What a strange thing to say.So you want the women- who so far, don’t appear to want a prosecution- to go through the stress of one to appease you and make sure you’re satisfied that there is no trial by media?
Do you know how stressful going to the police and trying to get a prosecution for sexual crimes is? And they’re not even doing it for them, they’re doing it for you?
In complete agreement with what you say. I had to remind myself that a person is innocent until proven guilty.I haven’t read all of this thread yet but as soon as I saw the headline about Noel, this is probably going to sound bad I know, but I wasn’t really shocked or surprised.
I don’t know if it was the stories years back with Adam Deacon or something else but there’s something about Noel that’s never sat right with me.
I know it sounds awful, he hasn’t been found innocent or guilty in a court of law yet but there’s just a feeling there if you get what I mean.
In complete agreement with what you say. I had to remind myself that a person is innocent until proven guilty.
I’ve just finished reading through this thread and I’m getting the impression a particular poster is just spoiling for an argument.
Just to make it clear, though - I enjoy healthy debate.
I thought you’d have more fear for your daughter who is growing into a world with men like this about. A woman is much more at risk of being assaulted or abused than a man is of being falsely accused of the same.However- I am disagreeing with this culture of ‘if a women says it it must be true’. I’m a mother of a son and a daughter and I fear for my son growing into a world where a woman could say anything about him and it would be assumed to be true. That’s all.
I thought you’d have more fear for your daughter who is growing into a world with men like this about. A woman is much more at risk of being assaulted or abused than a man is of being falsely accused of the same.
No it’s not! It’s so there is no trial by media. That’s what you said. “No trial be media, why aren’t the police involved?”Huh? This isn’t about me it’s for them! What a strange thing to say.
No it’s not! It’s so there is no trial by media. That’s what you said. “No trial be media, why aren’t the police involved?”
You don’t even know what the women want. If they wanted to go to the police they would’ve done that, wouldn’t they?
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