Trial by media has to stop- are the police involved? And if not, why not?
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Well his management dropped him earlier this month so he might be doing the crisis management on his own.Laurence Fox - defending a person of colour to show he’s not a racist. Sure, Lozza. Also, not sure if he & Billie are friendly exes, their split sounded acrimonious, so he might know that he’d piss her off by sticking up for Noel.
As he’s known about the story for about a month now, by the sounds of things, Noel’s crisis management/ PR seems pretty tit.
I’m glad, in a way, because we’ve been able to read the investigation and what’s been going on (and for how long). He was probably hoping it would all go away.
I really hope he does take this time to reflect on his behaviour and make real efforts to change and understand why this kind of behaviour is unacceptable.
I hope the media coverage has other predatory men in the film/tv industry quaking in their boots. Fuckers.
Police Involved for what?
Who do you want to involve them?
It’s investigative journalism. Not trial by media.
The police should get involved through as some Of the allegations are criminal in nature.
? it’s not trial by media. It’s investigative journalism which often these cases wouldn’t even get further than police reports. These things are absolutely rife in the media industry why should they go unnoticed.
"Clarke denies he slapped Seltveit’s backside and said he did not recall sending her an unsolicited picture of his penis. His lawyers said it was “highly unlikely” that Clarke would have shared such an image. Seltveit showed the Guardian a copy of the “dick pic”, which was labelled as having been shared with her by Clarke"
Yeah yeah yeah cos this response from his lawyers sounds so innocent
Yeah yeah yeah cos this response from his lawyers sounds so innocent
Who should involve them?
Some of the allegations are really serious.
It is trial by media and all the allegations should be investigated. By looking into and investigating allegations that’s not saying you don’t believe the accusers.
It is trial by media and all the allegations should be investigated. By looking into and investigating allegations that’s not saying you don’t believe the accusers.
Are you joking??
What's frightening is 20+ women coming forward with extremely similar jaw dropping stories about a scumbag who quite clearly abused his position of power. Failure to see that contributes to a culture that is so shockingly dangerous for women and young girls. I don't need to worry about my male loved ones being falsely accused of sexual misconduct on this scale because it would never bloody happen. I do however worry about every single one of my female loved ones, many of whom have their own me too stories and if they don't already, they likely will in future. Get a grip!!!!Exactly we have investigative journalism into all sorts of things that exploit people and ruin people’s lives, why not for this, it’s the only way to get things to change and stop it happening to other women
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But who should involve the police?
The Roxanne pallet comparison isn't right though. This isn't one person accusing the other. This is more than 20 women with stories of sexual misconduct plus men with bullying allegations. Theres proof he sent unsolicited dick pics. There's his misogynistic tweets which clearly show his character,m. If it was one persons word against the other then that comparison would hold weight but that's not the situation here.
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As I have said above... I don’t think it’s right or just to go to the media or social media to publicly accuse someone of something life destroying. Roxanne pallet is a good example of how easy it is as are the numerous emotionally charged responses to my posts on here taking one word of a post and changing what it says, that in itself shows how easy it is to twist things. I’ve read the whole article but in my professional past I’ve read a lot of statements and it’s always good to hear two sides to each story. It’s not upto me to decide if he’s guilty, as I said above of it was a member of the public would it be enough to destroy their life based on a social media post?! In the past guys I know have walked women home to protect them, they’ve been accused of being “sexist” when they were just trying to be nice people yet of something came out about them publicly everyone should believe it 100% because men can’t possibly be nice kind humans?! This is dangerous. The fact that people can say it must be true because it’s the guardian is mental!!this is all from one newspaper article. A newspaper! I wouldn’t want the emotionally charged public being judge jury and executioner For any case but then again I think the crown court should have legally trained jury members not untrained members of the public and this page tonight have proven why.
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QUOTE="dillydallywally, post: 4795218, member: 198022"]
As I have said above... I don’t think it’s right or just to go to the media or social media to publicly accuse someone of something life destroying. Roxanne pallet is a good example of how easy it is as are the numerous emotionally charged responses to my posts on here taking one word of a post and changing what it says, that in itself shows how easy it is to twist things. I’ve read the whole article but in my professional past I’ve read a lot of statements and it’s always good to hear two sides to each story. It’s not upto me to decide if he’s guilty, as I said above of it was a member of the public would it be enough to destroy their life based on a social media post?! In the past guys I know have walked women home to protect them, they’ve been accused of being “sexist” when they were just trying to be nice people yet of something came out about them publicly everyone should believe it 100% because men can’t possibly be nice kind humans?! This is dangerous. The fact that people can say it must be true because it’s the guardian is mental!!this is all from one newspaper article. A newspaper! I wouldn’t want the emotionally charged public being judge jury and executioner For any case but then again I think the crown court should have legally trained jury members not untrained members of the public and this page tonight have proven why.
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This is such a lightweight, man fawning and inconsequential post. I feel exhausted by it. So depressing
Because the likes of people like Gwyneth Paltrow and Angelina Jolie when they did get sufficient fame to be able to out him. And is the search for fame an excuse to close your eyes to abuse. I have never believed Weinstein is the only person culpable and there are many who should at least have issued public apologies for staying silent. Weinsteins star had long been in ascendency before the allegations came out.
The only issue I had with it was the part about the episode being on ITV Hub in a few days... I get that people are pissed to not be able to watch the ep at the alloted time, but that could have been saved for a follow up tweet imho
I would argue those shouting trial by media and that innocent til proven guilty need to actually read the guardian article.
Surely it's only 'terrifying' if you have behaved in an appalling way?!
You have make friends who can can’t walk women home... like, literally, who cares? Why do we even need to hear about this stuff?
