Well you can only assume the drain, I came across a post from Niamh saying that the drain FILLS twice a day with tidal water but only Noahs hands and feet had sort of severe water damage, so that was her issue, surely that's normal, even in a bath they are the 1st to go. The position of the body, sitting? Arms dangling? Even on his side they would be constantly in the water.Cause of death was drowning. The question is where?
They'll try to cover up their failings thats a given. But every police force in the UK is in hot water over those. I don't think they did enough to find him and I find it interesting that time of death is a mystery.I'd like to think while some members of the psni are corrupt someone in this case has integrity and a conscience not to cover a child's death, whether that be a person in the lab, not the coroner, or someone in a task room.
I know where I am with the case, with the new information.
Absolutely, they failed in their, fiona called it something fatigue? and she is correct, they are slow to get going.They'll try to cover up their failings thats a given. But every police force in the UK is in hot water over those. I don't think they did enough to find him and I find it interesting that time of death is a mystery.
Donal said he was found in a basin of water so assume that was a part of the drain that he was possible stuck in? When I think of a basin I think round? Not sure though?Presumably though, if it fills with tidal water twice a day he would’ve been washed out to sea? It’s so easy to pick holes in the Donohues theories, you can see why the police haven’t been able to maintain a relationship with them
I also seen a post, basically I went back over twitter a bit, there was a guy who walked the 950m it took 10mins. So not really that far? When I think of football pitches I was thinking hours. This guy is part of the army and a supporter, his point/post was in the 10mins why didn't Noah turn back after 2,3,4 mins. He was saying he thinks that proves he was placed in the drain kinda thing.Well the tidal aspect would explain how he came to be so far into it. I think there are bends in the system and it would be difficult for a body to move freely around those.
Or drive someone to commit suicide? That family seems to be the common denominator in this.Yeah. I dunno. Is it standard? Possibly in a situation like this, not so much for someone who got into difficulty in a swimming pool.
Think about the bath rumour. Rumours start somewhere, in someone's head or someone who was present. If you had drowned someone in a bath and hid the body in a drain would you tell someone or take it to the grave.
Yeah, they feature a lot.Or drive someone to commit suicide? That family seems to be the common denominator in this.
The official cause of death is actually drowning, I think the suicide theory came from the psychologist brought into the case, so while he drowned its a case of is it suicide or accident or something else.Just out of curiosity because it was a child are they allowed to release specific details without parental consent?
I know with suicide the media don’t generally report this to avoid a kind of ripple effect due to guidance from Samaritans so I’m wondering could that have been the reason the media just dropped off at the time as they had maybe just come to that conclusion.
Even if that was the case there are still some weird things such as the laptop ending up with that woman and other stuff
This comment thoughMaybe they meant fellas told to leave not decent residents?
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It didn’t say anything about addiction just blamed her lesbian lover for murdering him.View attachment 2281920
20s/30s I'm not sure, I ducked out of the groups in the early days as you couldn't have liked a post without being huntedHow old were the two nephews?
Theres still something weird about his guilty plea as surely his solicitor could have come up with some defence around unfair trials or Fiona naming him and the nephews etc. but then I suppose we didn’t know then what we do now and that was only a few weeks back when it very much looked like this was a cover up of a loyalist murder.It's a farce. The uncle of those guys went bananas over that talk, he should have took them for libel instead of trolling them. His lack of critical thinking let him down.
It's not officially suicide, this is just the opinion of the psychologist involved, the family are and will be challenging this. Funny in my look back over twitter, I seen Fiona posted a picture of a naked man being led away by 2 police officers, looked like England and she was able to expand her mind that it looked like a mental health issue and that people shouldn't laugh or be taking the pictures, she then said, there are no pictures of my Noah as no one helped him. So can grasp this person's possible episode but won't entertain the possibility of her son having one, that army have a lot to answer for.Theres still something weird about his guilty plea as surely his solicitor could have come up with some defence around unfair trials or Fiona naming him and the nephews etc. but then I suppose we didn’t know then what we do now and that was only a few weeks back when it very much looked like this was a cover up of a loyalist murder.
I’m still not entirely convinced about the suicide angle but isn’t there something about people stripping off before it? It’s a well known thing?
He's obviously a bad c#$t grifty. They caught him bang to rights. Outside the court he asked the cops for help when paps were trying to snap him and police basically told him to fuck off. So if people believe the theory they're protecting his nephews I think they're very far off the mark. That outfit are not liked by the psni and you and I both know the hard-core loyalists have no time for the psni.Theres still something weird about his guilty plea as surely his solicitor could have come up with some defence around unfair trials or Fiona naming him and the nephews etc. but then I suppose we didn’t know then what we do now and that was only a few weeks back when it very much looked like this was a cover up of a loyalist murder.
I’m still not entirely convinced about the suicide angle but isn’t there something about people stripping off before it? It’s a well known thing?
She never named them though. Their names were circulating online but it didn’t come from her. Guessing he targeted her because he expected her to put the rumours to bed or something?Theres still something weird about his guilty plea as surely his solicitor could have come up with some defence around unfair trials or Fiona naming him and the nephews etc. but then I suppose we didn’t know then what we do now and that was only a few weeks back when it very much looked like this was a cover up of a loyalist murder.
I’m still not entirely convinced about the suicide angle but isn’t there something about people stripping off before it? It’s a well known thing?
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