Nicola Sturgeon, SNP, Scottish Politics and Scottish Independence

[thegirlscout]

No. The survey today said:

Support for the Union remains on a knife edge, with 51% backing the UK compared to 49% in favour of independence, once don't knows are excluded.

I don't think it's ever been more than 55% for or against and both sides have polled around that

Independence mega-poll finds narrow majority in favour of remaining in the UK

A survey of more than 2,000 Scots confirms the SNP as the most popular party north of the Border - but shows the country remains split on the independence issue

www.dailyrecord.co.uk

Edit, looks like the person I quoted has deleted their post

I deleted it because I just quickly wrote it and thought I should read the thread properly as I might find the answer there. But thank you for replying the impression is because a lot of people on my social media are very pro SNP and independence and the way they talk is that it’s what everyone wants.

 

[Ginger drink]

I deleted it because I just quickly wrote it and thought I should read the thread properly as I might find the answer there. But thank you for replying the impression is because a lot of people on my social media are very pro SNP and independence and the way they talk is that it’s what everyone wants.

Not everyone does. I know people that do and people that don't. But tbh, I know more people that don't want it

 

[Miranda13]

So who to vote for tomorrow? Usually the SNP are my 'least worst' choice (though I am anti independence).

Which party are going for growth and rejuvenation post covid? Labour are hopeless, would never vote Tory, Greens are a wasted vote - so Lib Dems? They are pretty useless too though!

If only there was a 'none of the above' option........

 

[thegirlscout]

So who to vote for tomorrow? Usually the SNP are my 'least worst' choice (though I am anti independence).

Which party are going for growth and rejuvenation post covid? Labour are hopeless, would never vote Tory, Greens are a wasted vote - so Lib Dems? They are pretty useless too though!

If only there was a 'none of the above' option........

What other things do SNP offer apart from independence? (I know this may seem sarcastic but I’m genuinely curious as I’m from England and all I’ve ever heard of the SNP is in relation to independence)

 

[Whatsallthis]

What other things do SNP offer apart from independence? (I know this may seem sarcastic but I’m genuinely curious as I’m from England and all I’ve ever heard of the SNP is in relation to independence)

A lot...

Delivering progress: top 100 SNP achievements in government

The SNP delivered a raft of bold, progressive policies - all while majority of Scots pay less tax than elsewhere in the UK.

www.snp.org

 

[Miranda13]

What other things do SNP offer apart from independence? (I know this may seem sarcastic but I’m genuinely curious as I’m from England and all I’ve ever heard of the SNP is in relation to independence)

To me the SNP (although far from perfect) are what Labour should be - an actual socialst party not headed by an ex Public school boy who have social policies at the heart.

 

[Whatsallthis]

To me the SNP (although far from perfect) are what Labour should be - an actual socialst party not headed by an ex Public school boy who have social policies at the heart.

I said exactly this to my husband the other night.

 

[kazizzle]

To me the SNP (although far from perfect) are what Labour should be - an actual socialst party not headed by an ex Public school boy who have social policies at the heart.

Agree. I think if Labour sorted themselves out they could be a really strong contender.

 

[glasgow27]

I would never vote SNP - I have nothing in common with the party. I think I'll tactically go for Labour in my constituency. Not sure about list though, tons of options.

 

[Meh]

Agree. I think if Labour sorted themselves out they could be a really strong contender.

Exactly. I’m voting SNP. I do feel it’s the one party that represents Scottish interests.

Also, vote for SNP isn’t a vote for independence. Can always vote “no” in any future referendum.

Tories are leafleting hard core in my constituency I would love someone to explain a few Scottish Conservative policies or pledges that are not variations of “stop the SNP” “the SnP..” “stop nicola sturgeon” etc. Their literature is rife with it. They have presented NO things they will do! It’s just a slagging match toward NS

 

[Caffeine Fiend]

Im not pro independence but feel that the SNP are the only party who truly care and represent Scotland atm. If there was another referendum I dont think Id vote yes.

Ive never voted SNP before. Ive always voted Labour in the past but I dont feel that Labour in Scotland are doing enough anymore and Labour at Westminster, are they there? Kier could have died and I feel there would be no difference.

Douglas - I hate gypsys - Ross would become a human caterpillar with Boris if it guaranteed him any sort of power and Id never vote Tory anyway.

I think Im gonna go SNP for my MSP then Green for the list vote. I think thats the best tactical I can where I am (built up area) to keep the Tories out.

Politically Im a socialist so it makes sense to vote SNP. We as a family are paying more tax in Scotland than we would anywhere else and I dont begrudge it, Id pay more if it was required and on what we earn I see it as fair.

It makes me so sad to see comments on social media that people are voting Tory who have never voted Tory to try to reduce the SNPs hold. Im an 80s child and obviously didnt live through the Thatcher era really but the effects of her reign can still be seen in my region and probably all over Scotland tbh.

Unionists are so for Westminster and the union but you only need to look at how Westminster have treated N.I, especially with all the Brexit bollocks. They do not care about Scotland or N.I. They dont have our interests at heart so to be so loyal to people who dont give a duck is painful to watch.

I dont consider myself a unionist or a nationalist so dont @ me spouting hate.

Sorry that was super long. I didnt mean it to be.

What other things do SNP offer apart from independence? (I know this may seem sarcastic but I’m genuinely curious as I’m from England and all I’ve ever heard of the SNP is in relation to independence)

One thing off the top of my head I can think of is the Carers Allowance uplift. They give an additional payment twice a year to Carers.

These are carers who get £67.60 per week for caring for a disabled person for 35 hours per week or more. Who can only earn £128 per week or there Carer's Allowance is stopped. That was a policy implemented by the SNP.

Also from this year parents who earn under a certain amount will get £10 or £20 per week per child additional payment. I dont know the full ins and outs of this. I think its if you receive a means tested benefit.

Band 7s or below in the NHS got a decent pay rise this year.

 

[kazizzle]

Im not pro independence but feel that the SNP are the only party who truly care and represent Scotland atm. If there was another referendum I dont think Id vote yes.

Ive never voted SNP before. Ive always voted Labour in the past but I dont feel that Labour in Scotland are doing enough anymore and Labour at Westminster, are they there? Kier could have died and I feel there would be no difference.

Douglas - I hate gypsys - Ross would become a human caterpillar with Boris if it guaranteed him any sort of power and Id never vote Tory anyway.

I think Im gonna go SNP for my MSP then Green for the list vote. I think thats the best tactical I can where I am (built up area) to keep the Tories out.

Politically Im a socialist so it makes sense to vote SNP. We as a family are paying more tax in Scotland than we would anywhere else and I dont begrudge it, Id pay more if it was required and on what we earn I see it as fair.

It makes me so sad to see comments on social media that people are voting Tory who have never voted Tory to try to reduce the SNPs hold. Im an 80s child and obviously didnt live through the Thatcher era really but the effects of her reign can still be seen in my region and probably all over Scotland tbh.

Unionists are so for Westminster and the union but you only need to look at how Westminster have treated N.I, especially with all the Brexit bollocks. They do not care about Scotland or N.I. They dont have our interests at heart so to be so loyal to people who dont give a duck is painful to watch.

I dont consider myself a unionist or a nationalist so dont @ me spouting hate.

Sorry that was super long. I didnt mean it to be.

Well said!

 

[Caffeine Fiend]

Its not much no but its still extra that no other party are even offering if they were to be elected.

Carers Allowance went up 35p per week this year. Im sure if you asked people which they'd rather they'd say £9 not 35p.

Im not an SNP supporter, never voted for them in my life

 

[Meh]

I do like that SNP are at least trying to bring more public services back into public ownership. They also support keeping Scotland’s household water services as a public sector service and not privatised like it is down South. That’s a bonus as I don’t believe privatisation has worked in transport/rail, water/drainage, energy etc.

I agree with the poster who stated it’s painful to watch people being loyal to Westminster after seeing how badly they fucked NI. Westminster doesn’t care about NI, Scotland, Wales (or North England)

 

[Yel]

What other things do SNP offer apart from independence?

They do lots of things to get good headlines, and they've ramped them up a lot more over the last few months because of the election . Painful to watch people be so easily manipulated.

Westminster doesn’t care about NI, Scotland, Wales (or North England)

SNP excels mainly at spreading lazy diversive slogans . Divide and conquer etc.

the SNP are the only party who truly care and represent Scotland atm.

At the same time, that's all they have to do. They have limited powers and blame others when it goes wrong. It's like saying the Cornish Nationalist Party are the only party to care about Cornwall, well of course as they're hardly going to care about Redcar.

I'm not convinced they really care about Scotland, they seem to care more about their own glory.

 

[Whatsallthis]

They do lots of things to get good headlines, and they've ramped them up a lot more over the last few months because of the election . Painful to watch people be so easily manipulated.



SNP excels mainly at spreading lazy diversive slogans . Divide and conquer etc.



At the same time, that's all they have to do. They have limited powers and blame others when it goes wrong. It's like saying the Cornish Nationalist Party are the only party to care about Cornwall, well of course as they're hardly going to care about Redcar.

I'm not convinced they really care about Scotland, they seem to care more about their own glory.

Turn it the other way - what do the other parties offer? They can’t even claim to try to do anything to get good headlines.

I completely disagree with everything you’ve written but it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to have it.

 

[YellowMellow14]

I've lived under an SNP government since my early 20s. In that time I've made use of the following:

- free college and uni tuition
- free prescriptions
- free eye tests
- 1x baby box
- 30 hours free early years child care for 1 child and will have another one this year receiving it.
- NHS treatment to approximate value of over £1,000,000.
- pay less tax than the rest of the UK as a lower earner.

That's just off the top of my head. It's both votes SNP in my constituency where a list SNP MSP can happen.

 

[Yel]

The other parties offer lots of things. But SNP stuff is as tribal.

Lots of their PR winning police's don't hold much weight. Free prescriptions - most in England get these also as you're entitled to it if it's cronic, you can't afford it or are of a certain age. Very few actually pay for it. Less tax as low earners - if you're on 15k you get a whopping £20 more in Scotland in a year. None of this free stuff is free, budgets are allocated differently and Scotland has more per head to spend.

Anyway as a foreigner Scotland was the most unpleasant and unwelcoming country I've ever lived in during the last indy vote. I'd never live there again and have precious little time for the self serving SNP and the they pedal.

 

[YellowMellow14]

Thought of another couple...

Free hospital parking. I am in horror my cancer equivalent friends in England have to pay parking at their hospitals.

No tolls. Used to live near Erskine Bridge and toll was scrapped.

How anyone who want to live in Tory Brexit Racist land is beyond me.

 

[Caffeine Fiend]

They do lots of things to get good headlines, and they've ramped them up a lot more over the last few months because of the election . Painful to watch people be so easily manipulated.



SNP excels mainly at spreading lazy diversive slogans . Divide and conquer etc.



At the same time, that's all they have to do. They have limited powers and blame others when it goes wrong. It's like saying the Cornish Nationalist Party are the only party to care about Cornwall, well of course as they're hardly going to care about Redcar.

I'm not convinced they really care about Scotland, they seem to care more about their own glory.

Ok, but Id still rather have a party that only has to worry about Scotland worrying and caring about Scotland than a whole Government who doesnt.

Also slogans? Thats not what Im talking about, the way WM have treated NI is appalling. Thats coming from me and my own judgement. Nothing to do with the SNP.

As I said before Ive never voted SNP in my life, Im not an IndyRef fanatic and I certainly dont rim there assholes. Yes theyve got things wrong, all politicians do. The majority are self serving arseholes.

I would never vocally say out loud in real life that Im planning on voting SNP tomorrow because of all the drama it would attract. I bet there are thousands more like me, who arent yellow to the core but will vote SNP tomorrow because its the only viable option.

Ive had enough leaflets through my door to cause death by papercut and not one of the opposing parties can tell me what theyl do for me. None and believe me Ive read them all, including the covid denier independent. Its all just criticism of NS & the SNP and lets stop indyref. I dont particularly want another indyref but I need more than that. Thats not a manifesto.

Also my local MP is SNP and their voting history at WM is impeccable. Its exactly how Id vote if I could.

As a socialist there is not another party that makes sense for me, not right now. Labour have really let me down and I say that as a previous member of the Labour party. My list vote will be for Green but my MSP vote would be a waste for Green.