Mother Pukka #3 I think we might be remarkable

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That was a hard read. I can’t imagine how hard it was going through that and even writing it down now. I’m really and truly sorry that you and your brother went through that - you were let down and you didn’t do anything to cause that to happen or to deserve it.

This is where the absolutist “so long as Mummy is happy brigade” get this so terribly wrong as anyone who is actually trained, regulated and insured to practise in this field and/or deal with the fall out knows
 
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3 months after my divorce I had a very love bomby relationship. It lasted a few months until the cracks showed and his narcissistic personality started to show. Luckily my children were not involved as he turned out to be a high functioning alcoholic with a gambling addiction.

Nowadays I date guys whom I’m old enough to be their mother, and it wouldn’t have been a teenage pregnancy. I’m having time of my life!
 
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I also had a mum like that. I never felt I was as important as the boyfriends or her search for ‘the one’. Mum would bring men back and I’d hear the shagging. One time she went for a quickie in the bathroom at a barbecue that some of my friends were at. . (But our relationship did improve massively by the time she stopped being interested in sex and even more after she became a granny).
 
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Someone said upthread that it’s like a dare that’s gone too far and it’s made me think of the friends episode where Phoebe and Joey find out that Chandler and Monica are dating and Phoebe tries to trick Chandler and they keep pushing each other along trying to see who will break first.


SHOW HIM YOUR BRA, HE’S AFRAID OF THEM!
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Omg me too. 100pc. Much as I love DH, I sometimes fantasise about this solitary living situation!
 
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God I am so sorry to hear about all your stories, none of that should have happened to you. Thank you for sharing them
 
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I think people can absolutely 'check out' from a marriage before they decide to separate. That's what leads many to that decision. I can't think of anything worse than going straight into another relationship, I'd relish being alone!
Yes - I’m sure lots of adults do check out. Ok. Fine.

But the issue is that very often children have most definitely not checked out and need help and support through the break up because, whatever Anna says, it is the break up of a family unit. Children’s reactions and coping behaviours do not behave in a linear way. They may seem to be coping well initially then have periods of coping less well. They are dealing with the transition out of the family unit and that new normal. Now suddenly there is a man whom they don’t know well and his children who are not their siblings and they don’t really know at all being introduced into their lives. In fact not “introduced” but inserted at great speed.

Children will generally look to their parents for reassurance and approval. So if the parents says they are happy in an uncertain situation, the child will generally mirror that emotion back. If the child isn’t given the permission to talk about their concerns and worries and be truly listened to, then they will internalise those feelings. If they feel that they are reacting in a different way to their parent (essentially being gaslit) then a child will generally blame themselves for that and feel that there most be something wrong with them.

This is alllll kinds of wrong. The language being used by Anna about Stripy Top shows someone in love with a mirage, with an idea projected onto another human being who can never live up to that ideal.

The vast majority of family and good friends would sit in stunned silence. In horror, really, if a mother of two girls announced this engagement to them in these circumstances.
 
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Yeah fuck that! I got divorced and got a dog. Ain't nobody else I'm willing to share a house with, even though I am a 24/7 actual dogsbody to HRH Doggo
 
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So these kids got a new step daddy and step siblings in the same week???.....hope Anna's putting some money aside for their future therapy sessions
 
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Signed, sealed, dEliVerEd
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Yes I think PollDoll must still be in thrall. Anna was her ‘saviour’ when she was having a traumatic time after the birth of her kids and now she’s forever indebted to the love-bomber, friendship groomer, fame hungry machine of a mate
 
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The whole thing is just a bit cringe, why is nothing private anymore? She's got where she wants to be on the radio and success etc but still needs to share everything? I don't get it at all.
 
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I had a friend checking out. The check out was she hooked up with a guy she went to high school with. Husband found out. They then decided to work on things while she was still seeing the high school guy. Then she decided she wants to separate, they do the magpie shit, and then she says she doesn’t want to magpie anymore and chucks him out.

Presses her husband for a divorce so she can get the visa organised for her new Beau to move to Australia. New guy moves into the marital home, financial settlement occurs after the divorce. Kids are now expected to call the new boyfriend stepdad. She constantly drags her ex husband down on socials and cut off friendships if they dared talk to him. Just crazy.
 
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Is your friend Anna?!
 
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Is she actually tagging OLLIE BRETTON OLLIE BRETTON’s mum in her stories?! The cringe is cringing.
 
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The irony of her sharing Gabor Mate saying parents need to take care of theirselves while rushing into getting engaged is not lost on me!

I don't believe that society doesn't want divorcees to be happy, I think what is evidenced here is that a lot of people have either done it theirselves and lived with the fall out, seen a friend do and it observed the fall out, or have experience of being the child in that scenario, and been showered by the fall out. I am in there been there, done that category. Mourned a relationship while still in it, got out and immediately ran into a love bomber! I didn't know how to be on my own, so I was constantly anxious that this sudden relationship was going to suddenly disappear- and it did. I was a shadow of myself in that relationship, and after a shadow of that shadow. Fortunately I had no children.

Maybe Anna is completely spot on, and this guy is the one, and they will be together forever, but if that is the case why rush? Why not let the kids get to know him, and his kids and her kids get to know each other, and everyone has time to get comfortable, because you've got the rest of your lives, right?
 
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There’s no way I’d marry a man who wanted to marry me after six months. Not with kids involved. I’d assume he was looking for somewhere bigger and better to live and someone to look after his kids on his contact weekends.
Definitely. So many men are highly motivated to find a new woman ASAP because they realise the drudge work of shopping, cooking, cleaning, running a home and looking after kids sucks and they want someone else to do it.
 
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I think they’re probably love bombing one another out of fear: she doesn’t want to be alone and he doesn’t want to parent his own kids

We all know the initial stages of any relationship is fun and exciting, once the oxytocin dies down and everything settles you start to notice the ‘real’ person. Sometimes you like who you see, and sometimes you don’t.
It’s very easy for us to observe what a potential car crash this is. I am also sure Anna’s true friends if she has any - may say something, but they know she won’t listen.
 
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I took it that Gabor Mate meant 'put your own life vest on before helping others' - that parents shouldn't ignore their basic needs but we should all put our children's safety and stability first. There's some shocking parenting around and always has been. I've seen experts say that the idea that children are resilient is a total myth - kids seem resilient as they have no choice but it always has an impact, even if it doesn't seem so at the time.
 
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