Yes - if someone decided to harm her - then pushing her off the side of the mountain would be a means of doing this which would not enable anyone to detect how she had fallen, I suppose.Peggy,
By accident do you mean he may have pushed her? I hadn't thought of it till now but it would leave little evidence someone was responsible.
It seems clear the site of crime has been chosen for low detectability.
How on Earth do Forensics prove someone was pushed after weeks have passed and snow has fallen?
I think he could have set out to get nearer to her even earlier than 21st - if he was getting very agitated.. wouldn't his rage have been building up for a few days or longerPerhaps' without risking transport, he started on the 21st? Travelled the back roads. Pitched a tent en route & only got there on the 22nd?
This is horrifying but sounds so likely.Yes - if someone decided to harm her - then pushing her off the side of the mountain would be a means of doing this which would not enable anyone to detect how she had fallen, I suppose.
I think he could have set out to get nearer to her even earlier than 21st - if he was getting very agitated.. wouldn't his rage have been building up for a few days or longer
Yet he couldn't be away from Arreau too long as he needed an alibi for the week.Yes - if someone decided to harm her - then pushing her off the side of the mountain would be a means of doing this which would not enable anyone to detect how she had fallen, I suppose.
I think he could have set out to get nearer to her even earlier than 21st - if he was getting very agitated.. wouldn't his rage have been building up for a few days or longer
True! On the cold preserving evidence.Just got sucked into this rabbit hole.
Really hope for her family there is news, but if its snowing on the mountain it may hamper.
Only thing is, if she has passed - the cold will work to preserve & may help answer some questions.
Ideally she has taken off & will return when she is ready and & strong enough too.
He really seems so controlling & she seems like such a lovely soul!
Kev do we know for sure she didn't?I'm still struggling with why someone as experienced and frequently travelling as her wouldn't be carrying a personal GPS locator beacon with her. They're not expensive or anything new, they're pocket sized and work worldwide, and have batteries that last for years. Many of them have an SOS button to call help to your exact location. Not something I'd expect the numpties that suddenly decide to walk up Ben Nevis one day on a whim and get stranded to have with them, but someone that's hiking in remote places almost every day for months or years and for whom her whole lifestyle is the great outdoors, yes definitely.
For her not to have such a device on her suggests to me that she didn't want to be found either?
Regarding the phone in flight mode - what do we know about that exactly? (sorry I had read something referring to this but haven't taken much notice of it until now). Do we know for sure it was turned to flight mode and when? Thanks!Yet he couldn't be away from Arreau too long as he needed an alibi for the week.
True! On the cold preserving evidence.
Kev do we know for sure she didn't?
Perhaps the perpetrator switched it off as per her phone on flight mode?
After all DC claimed this week she had the best hiking gear etc.
Lol those poor people on that forum. They have to do anything but sleuth. They are only allowed to discuss stuff reported by news sites. How is that sleuthing? At least here we can use our brains freely.Regarding the phone in flight mode - what do we know about that exactly? (sorry I had read something referring to this but haven't taken much notice of it until now). Do we know for sure it was turned to flight mode and when? Thanks!
We know that LE have cleared her B/F, so who else could it be ? My original thought on this matter was that her mention of a kind male hiker on the 19th, prompted the B/F to visit her, but it is back to the drawing board on that one. Still puzzling though over her Instagram pictures of the 21-22 Nov, with ED (and her walking poles propped against a boulder), all showing Luchon in the background, accompanied with the words : “Maybe I can see you!!”. ''
Her phone was reported by msm as in flight mode thus LE had no clue which way she went.Regarding the phone in flight mode - what do we know about that exactly? (sorry I had read something referring to this but haven't taken much notice of it until now). Do we know for sure it was turned to flight mode?
'My feeling is that Luchon holds the key and that there was somebody there – or on their way there – that ED was keen to meet up with. We know that LE have cleared her B/F, so who else could it be ? My original thought on this matter was that her mention of a ''
I recall flight mode being activated on 22nd according to msm. Cap'n Bordinaro prob has been quoted somewhere.Regarding the phone in flight mode - what do we know about that exactly? (sorry I had read something referring to this but haven't taken much notice of it until now). Do we know for sure it was turned to flight mode and when? Thanks!
Just thinking that she was last seen by Vigo at 3pm ascending the mountain. The next known event was her sending the photo from the summit at 4pm to Dan (although anything via social media etc is not reliable as someone could have done this on her 'phone). She looks genuinely happy in that photo. When did she meet the perpetrator do we think? If she had arranged to meet DC that day (hence explaining her late climb) then I'm thinking she arrange to meet possibly at summit or refuge that day..
Dan alerts she is missing on 27th (I think that is correct date.).
Just had a glance over at Websleuths and have brought this comment over by a member who I think was also of the opinion she may have been harmed by someone. Obviously over there we were unable to discuss openly these views!!
'My feeling is that Luchon holds the key and that there was somebody there – or on their way there – that ED was keen to meet up with. We know that LE have cleared her B/F, so who else could it be ? My original thought on this matter was that her mention of a kind male hiker on the 19th, prompted the B/F to visit her, but it is back to the drawing board on that one. Still puzzling though over her Instagram pictures of the 21-22 Nov, with ED (and her walking poles propped against a boulder), all showing Luchon in the background, accompanied with the words : “Maybe I can see you!!”. ''
"Looks genuinely happy" concerns me.Regarding the phone in flight mode - what do we know about that exactly? (sorry I had read something referring to this but haven't taken much notice of it until now). Do we know for sure it was turned to flight mode and when? Thanks!
Just thinking that she was last seen by Vigo at 3pm ascending the mountain. The next known event was her sending the photo from the summit at 4pm to Dan (although anything via social media etc is not reliable as someone could have done this on her 'phone). She looks genuinely happy in that photo. When did she meet the perpetrator do we think? If she had arranged to meet DC that day (hence explaining her late climb) then I'm thinking she arrange to meet possibly at summit or refuge that day..
Dan alerts she is missing on 27th (I think that is correct date.).
Just had a glance over at Websleuths and have brought this comment over by a member who I think was also of the opinion she may have been harmed by someone. Obviously over there we were unable to discuss openly these views!!
'My feeling is that Luchon holds the key and that there was somebody there – or on their way there – that ED was keen to meet up with. We know that LE have cleared her B/F, so who else could it be ? My original thought on this matter was that her mention of a kind male hiker on the 19th, prompted the B/F to visit her, but it is back to the drawing board on that one. Still puzzling though over her Instagram pictures of the 21-22 Nov, with ED (and her walking poles propped against a boulder), all showing Luchon in the background, accompanied with the words : “Maybe I can see you!!”. ''
It was made very clear on that forum by SB that "not a suspect" does NOT equal "being cleared".Regarding the phone in flight mode - what do we know about that exactly? (sorry I had read something referring to this but haven't taken much notice of it until now). Do we know for sure it was turned to flight mode and when? Thanks!
Just thinking that she was last seen by Vigo at 3pm ascending the mountain. The next known event was her sending the photo from the summit at 4pm to Dan (although anything via social media etc is not reliable as someone could have done this on her 'phone). She looks genuinely happy in that photo. When did she meet the perpetrator do we think? If she had arranged to meet DC that day (hence explaining her late climb) then I'm thinking she arrange to meet possibly at summit or refuge lso of the opinion she may have been harmed by someone. Obviously over there we were unable to discuss openly these views!!
'My feeling is that Luchon holds the key and that there was somebody there – or on their way there – that ED was keen to meet up with. We know that LE have cleared her B/F, so who else could it be ? My original thought on this matter was that her mention of a kind male hiker on the 19th, prompted the B/F to visit her, but it is back to the drawing board on that one. Still puzzling though over her Instagram pictures of the 21-22 Nov, with ED (and her walking poles propped against a boulder), all showing Luchon in the background, accompanied with the words : “Maybe I can see you!!”. ''
Thanks for the laughter lol.Anyone else working on a theory that Johara is involved somehow?
It takes courage to voice your thoughts and hunches in a PC world.This case has me hooked. I did some reading of the posts uploaded on Facebook by Esther Nov 19th 10:19. - It talks about her experience of how she was doubting herself but makes it then it goes to talk about the mystery man she met she had the option of staying in this great cabin or going down and hitching a ride .. I just found this part of the sentence weird. " he'd take me with er up the valley. " .
I noticed it is the only typo in the message, reading it I first read **with her** .
I don't know why but this feeling is telling me she never wrote this, I think Dan is involved somehow.
(clutching at straws I know but my mind gets carried away lol)
PetitPois, did you read the last one I posted that ends:Even if he had nothing to do with it, he’s a real pseudo-intellectual isn’t he?
In English Literature class at uni this last poem could consume a day of analysis.An interesting post on DC instagram about "being left behind" on May 10th.
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Those left behind do the grieving
Those left behind clean the stains.
Those left behind take the beating,
Those left behind feel the pain.
Below his poem he speaks of his illness in 2013.. And how alone she felt at the time. Which he had not thought about.
It's just chilling he wrote this in May this year.
Thanks for the laughter lol.
I think what drives me posting about this case is the fear that someone killed her and will escape justice.
It is so well planned if it was a murder. It evokes outrage in me.
I'm trying to post daily to keep the spotlight on this case. It's the most useful thing we can do.
Another interesting poem about his relationship. This from October 2019.
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I think if we feel someone is our "soulmate" as claimed Monday then we love being together and would not crave space.
Different strokes for different folks but this is classic push-pull behaviour common with personality disorders such as Narcissistic or Borderline or Anti-social Personality Disorder.
Eg OJ Simpson, Oscar Pistorius etc etc. Charming, popular guys all, before they killed.
There's a popular book about this called "I hate you, don't leave me".
AdoraDelano this one's especially for you.
He wrote this in 2019. I forgot to check the month.
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YesAnyone else working on a theory that Johara is involved somehow?
I am far too serious and wrapped up in this case so thanks to those of you pointing it out in a lighthearted way.
Just spot on in every way.Everything he writes seems to speak of a troubled mind.
When she first was reported missing he speaks of the woman who helped him to be able to feel. To me, his outpouring was one from someone who already had written her off as ‘gone for ever’. I would have expected him to say things like’ we desperately need to find her’ ... or ‘she might be injured somewhere.. I’m so worried’ etc. Instead he just spoke of what a wonderful person she was. Like he’d already processed her death.
If he is guilty then it certainly fits the borderline personality disorder description.
I think the observations about Esthers comment ‘perhaps I can see you’ are interesting. I thought it an odd comment but you are right it might indicate she thought he was on his way.
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