Met Police

[sixdinnersid83]

What is really disturbing me is the number of junior police officers posting on Twitter and making it all about them, how they feel, how hard their job is. Calling the women attending animals and thugs.

They can say their piece but not now, even now they are making it about them. It’s not.

Their supporters (and I include myself as being generally pro police) are banging the one bad apple drum. Completely missing the point if they really think it’s just because of poor Sarah.
It’s years of not being listened to by police on domestic violence, sexual assault, grape etc.

This was the tipping point and should have been handled so sensitively and it would not have escalated. No idea who advised them but how can something so obvious be got so wrong?

The respect is gone if only because they can’t say sorry. Her friend is being used by people for political gain too and missed the point. I agree with the first couple of tweet replies.

 

[Rockin' Robin]

I don't pretend to understand the complexities of this issue, I don't watch the news at the moment it is too depressing. It seems to be yet another method of deviding society, we've had BLM which has caused great division, now we have this latest cause, one motive seems to be to set men and women against each other.
I don't mean to offend anyone when I say this, but why is this woman more important than any other woman who has lost her life, or gone missing? Where are the protesters, when any average woman becomes a crime statistic?

 

[Begborrowsteal]

I don't pretend to understand the complexities of this issue, I don't watch thhe news at the moment it is too depressing. It seems to be yet another method of deviding society, we've had BLM which has caused great division, now we have this latest cause, one motive seems to be to set men and women against each other.
I don't mean to offend anyone when I say this, but why is this woman more important than any other woman who has lost her life, or gone missing? Where are the protesters, when any average woman becomes a crime statistic?

I think its just the timing in society, certain cases ignite a reaction. Lots of black men have suffered at the hands of cops, but GF gripped everyone. I think theres always an undercurrent, and certain cases just bring it to the forefront.

Saying that, I did wonder why I saw Sarahs missing poster so much. It was everywhere! I asked my partner and friends why there was such a push for her, why her case. Maybe they knew something was dodgy from the off. Maybe she was just one of those cases that catches the press attention

 

[Lilliepad]

I think its just the timing in society, certain cases ignite a reaction. Lots of black men have suffered at the hands of cops, but GF gripped everyone. I think theres always an undercurrent, and certain cases just bring it to the forefront.

Saying that, I did wonder why I saw Sarahs missing poster so much. It was everywhere! I asked my partner and friends why there was such a push for her, why her case. Maybe they knew something was dodgy from the off. Maybe she was just one of those cases that catches the press attention

I think cause of the job she’s in, her friends knew how to get press attention. I thought the same thing too.

 

[What's your point]

I think its just the timing in society, certain cases ignite a reaction. Lots of black men have suffered at the hands of cops, but GF gripped everyone. I think theres always an undercurrent, and certain cases just bring it to the forefront.

Saying that, I did wonder why I saw Sarahs missing poster so much. It was everywhere! I asked my partner and friends why there was such a push for her, why her case. Maybe they knew something was dodgy from the off. Maybe she was just one of those cases that catches the press attention

I think it was a mixture of a few things. Her friends pushing to get the information out there, the fact that it seemed pretty obvious it was a random attack and abduction rather than someone she knew or a domestic incident..and then once announced it was a MET officer it was always going to create a storm.

Awful as it is (and it sounds like the evidence that will come out will be grim) I am so glad they found her and someone is going to face trial because for so many families this doesn't happen. Poor Leah Crouchers family have spent two years not knowing where their daughter is (though it seems highly likely she was murdered by her secret boyfriend) but still no body found, no arrests made and then months later her brother took his own life due to the stress and torment of not knowing where she was. Tragic.

 

[sdmilne]

It was ill-advised to have large numbers of white male officers at the vigil. It was just an insult considering that her alleged murderer is exactly that.

Personally don't think gathering in large numbers during a lockdown is the best thing for our overall safety right now. There are other ways to show our concerns and feelings about Sarah's murder, female safety, male and police aggression.

So would black male officers have been less problematic? If so then please explain?

 

[Ceelea]

ACAB and always have been. Their purpose has always been only to protect the interests of a select few.

I disagree.

 

[cubegame]

The protesters were made up of extremists and those they have managed to radicalise.

If it was a protest that was advocating Islamic extremism then there would be no outrage at the policing.

However, all extremism is the same. These agitators got what they wanted when they got their pictures in the paper. Perhaps the police should have sent a few people amongst them and got them to start coughing.

 

[Icing _on_ the_cake]

Seems it's been hi jacked by the radical left same as XR and BLM.
They seem to want to cancel the police with the things they are saying and the vandalism they are committing
Put the agitators in a police cell for a while to calm down.
I support women's rights to be safe but this mob is only concerned with getting their face in the news
Well done making an important cause into a riot.

tbf, XR wasn't hijacked by the radical left, it was founded by them.

I was once leafleted by an XR person and I was like 'sorry, your leaders are narcissistic nutters'. The people who started it are only interested in climate in so far it's a really good motivator for convincing people that we need to overthrow our system of government.

Football fans are loud, obnoxious and cause disruption and are a nuisance. The police usually stand back, guide the crowds and step in when its too rowdy.

The police force has long been shadowed by racism claims, sexual offenders etc. The force is ducked. On top of that, the attitude towards violent and sexual crime victims - its no wonder theres no trust. Apparently the entry requirements were lowered in order to increase enrolment numbers? So any old bleep can join, like WC.

Rangers in particular have a history of violence.

 

[Veebee27]

ACAB and always have been. Their purpose has always been only to protect the interests of a select few.

This acronym was used in the 60's by young idiots who had it tattooed on their knuckles. They could perhaps be forgiven because they were young and followed their mates to look "tough", but, there's no excuse for it in today's world. We haven't evolved much in the last 60 yrs.

 

[The King in the North]

The Met Police haven't changed, they're crooked. I'm mean they're more bothered protecting a statue of a dead Prime Minster, than a woman. It's funny, the amount of crime in London, no police around, a vigil, and there are hundreds of coppers. It was all male at the vigil, but all female at the statue.

 

[TripleC's]

So one of their own kidnapped and murdered a woman and now at a Virgil for Sarah, the police think violence is the best cause of action in the face of people showing solidarity and togetherness? Yeah, no. Police are wrong and they need to own up to it. If anybody got a fine, they need to issue Kate Middleton one too. She was there just before the police presence arrived (coincidentally).

I notice they didn't hassle her to ask where her mask was , what she was doing , and then asking for details so they can start writing the fine for no reason

 

[Jmx]

I notice they didn't hassle her to ask where her mask was , what she was doing , and then asking for details so they can start writing the fine for no reason

Why are people attacking Kate for having no mask when she was outdoors?

 

[The King in the North]

Why are people attacking Kate for having no mask when she was outdoors?

Because you have to wear masks, while being next to someone, it doesn't matter if you're inside or outside, as long as you're close to someone. The police wouldn't touch the Royal Family because they would out of a job.

 

[TripleC's]

The Met Police haven't changed, they're crooked. I'm mean they're more bothered protecting a statue of a dead Prime Minster, than a woman. It's funny, the amount of crime in London, no police around, a vigil, and there are hundreds of coppers. It was all male at the vigil, but all female at the statue.

They are getting worst , I used to be pro police, and don't get me wrong I'm not out committing crime and all that, but now I've seen the police for what they are, and don't think they discriminate they don't, they will bully and arrest anyone, in fact the only people the police didn't do anything against was BLM, they must have been told no bullying and no heavy handed tactics at that one.

I've watched hundreds of videos on YouTube of the police and their "job" and its essentially walk around shops and hassle people, and this was before covid, im pretty much sure if it's a slow day they will then harass people in order to get an arrest.
Your right is you do not have to give your name and details to a copper just phishing for details, they also need suspicion of some crime to search you, but I've seen countless times the police asking people for details and then getting arsey when people refuse, and then the trouble starts which will always usually end in an arrest, an arrest that wil never go anywhere, they are essentially illegally arresting people.

I've seen a video of two bike cops completely push in the queue at a garage and when someone mentioned the queue one of them waited for him to be served, when the guy said the pump number sure enough when he went outside the other copper had been told and was checking the vehicle, they then caused so much trouble for the guy, and all because he rightly mentioned the queue

During this covid they feel it acceptable to hassle everyone to keep their fine issued quota up , they have even been caught hassling and arresting a 16 year old out for a walk who was causing no trouble , but because he knew his rights they arrested him

No one should feel marginalised by the police these days as they have very much a pro hassle anyone stance on law, its not make people feel safe and react to crime anymore, it's get bored, and try and find as many people who look easy to hassle and get an easy arrest so they can go back to the station, I think police have lost faith in their own job, they catch real criminals and the CPS decline to take it further so whats the point.

All of this is easy to access on youtube , the advice now is to film any interaction with police, they are now more corrupt at finding something as an excuse for arrest than arresting real criminals, what happened over the weekend is no surprise to me at all

Why are people attacking Kate for having no mask when she was outdoors?

Because the police hassle anyone and everyone for no masks, whilst wearing a mask doesn't bother me anymore I don't believe they stop you catching covid , but Kate would/should know the rules so I find it odd she turned up without, and she shouldn't be above the law

 

[The King in the North]

Now, the goverment are trying to get a bill passed, which can shut down a protest if it's too noisy. What's the point in making a protest, if you can't make a noise, you're supposed to be heard because you want people to know what you're protesting about. It's going to become a Nazi state soon.

 

[TripleC's]

I'm all for the police getting tougher and having more powers, but for real crime, it seems these days the career criminal can breeze in and out of a police station with no charges even after being caught red handed, some of them know the law better that the police, and then you have prisoners who are treated better than the homeless, not saying we should keep them in small cages etc... but the carrot approach they have these days is no better than the stick, and as these people are the bane of peoples lives or murderers i think i would rather see a bit more of the stick, i just think some people are beyond rehabilitation without being judgemental but using common sense you know which people are less likely to go on and commit more crime and those that are constant repeat offenders, id rather they stayed behind bars where they public can feel safe, i mean if you send someone to prison and the crime drops and when they come out it rises again , it doesnt take a genius to realise they are not rehabilitated.

I think a lot of it is down to the CPS though, i think they seem to be turning down more and more cases because they know its not worth the money, if they know the judge will only give a month behind bars to a serial offender they see it as a waste of money so let them go.

For criminals like that, getting arrested isnt a problem, it holds no fear, whereas arresting a young woman standing near some flowers at a vigil , someone who has never been arrested its quite traumatic and scary , so the career criminal has no punishment, yet the young woman who is usually law abiding gets double punishment, the arrest and a long time in custody and the mental trauma for what really is a very minor rule break. They shouldnt have been there because a judge quickly made up a law, but they were causing no hassle and covid isnt like it was at Xmas, and this protesting wouldnt have then carried on like it will now because of the police.

for that i blame it 70/30 on the police , yes the vigil shouldnt have happened but had organisers been allowed to handle it it may have gone better , so thats a mistake, but the main mistake was moving in like an army and a threat, no one at the vigil was fighting or causing trouble and actually it didnt descend into a riot, which is why they stood around or kneeled at a BLM angry protest, so its one rule for one and one for others, and the consistency is clear to see now everyone phones the police , they could have monitored the crowd and use their presence to funnel people away, but they could have waited until most decided to go home , and then pick up the troublemakers left behind who wouldnt call it a night, i think the biggest mistake was completely ignoring the feel of the vigil, how effing stupid as a top boss of police do you have to be to order the police to act like football hooligans at a vigil where the woman was murdered by a cop FF

inconsistent and unfair is how i would judge the police, and most of them believe it or not do not know the law, its amazing how confused they get when out and feel they can do what they like to people, which is why its getting worse, people are being fast tracked onto the streets with less training than 30 years ago

 

[sixdinnersid83]

Do they have no media advisors? Nothing is going to change.

 

[idk2]

Because you have to wear masks, while being next to someone, it doesn't matter if you're inside or outside, as long as you're close to someone. The police wouldn't touch the Royal Family because they would out of a job.

She was at a large mass gathering outdoors and was recorded avoiding brushing shoulders with people. Everyone around her who attended was visibly masked up. Why did she feel the need to come without one? Its common sense and common courtesy. But I guess she came for the photo op instead.

 

[The King in the North]

Met officer involved in Sarah Everard search referred to IOPC for sharing ‘inappropriate graphic’

It did not contain images of Ms Everard or any material obtained from or related to investigation, force says

www.independent.co.uk

Still think the Met are not corrupt?