Also those are not ethnicities. She needs to be educated on that too.Are you taking about nyc? She’s followed chelsea for a while now. I didn’t notice if she unfollowed them. I remember when she used to like all the pics of mason they posted back in the day and then randomly one day she just removed all her likes
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Is it not about time someone told nyc that Bahamian doesn’t mean black. There are Bahamians of all different ethnicities. The black and white people originally only lived there because of slavery and Christopher Columbus went and killed all the native people. So nyc claiming her mum is Bahamian means absolutely nothing when she literally could be a white Bahamiancan someone please educate me if this is wrong
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Yes there is a small proportion that are/identify as white bahamian & the same across other islands. Like you said due to slavery, migration, invasions etcAre you taking about nyc? She’s followed chelsea for a while now. I didn’t notice if she unfollowed them. I remember when she used to like all the pics of mason they posted back in the day and then randomly one day she just removed all her likes
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Is it not about time someone told nyc that Bahamian doesn’t mean black. There are Bahamians of all different ethnicities. The black and white people originally only lived there because of slavery and Christopher Columbus went and killed all the native people. So nyc claiming her mum is Bahamian means absolutely nothing when she literally could be a white Bahamian
Another example is Africa with a large number of europeans over time going there.
I will never understand Americans. She clearly doesn’t know the difference between ethnicity and nationality. Even at that none of those 3 nationalities she mentioned is her nationality. She’s American born therefore her nationality is American no matter how hard she tries for it not to be
And English is a language. British is a nationality, right?.
I think that’s where it gets a bit political but I think on paper anyone from the United Kingdom is classified as British
I would say English as nationality as well as there are Scottish and Welsh and Irish etc in British??
Aaahh got it!
I might be wrong though.. although being British doesn't automatically make you become "white" or Caucasian as ethnicity. So, from what @katiestewart said. Her declaring that she's Russian, Bahamian and English doesn't mean anything unless she ticks that she's mixed race under white/black Caribbean ethnicity.
e.g. I'm British but I tick "Chinese" as my ethnicity even though I was born in Thailand with a Thai nationality and can't speak any Chinese
. I only become British by law.Correct me if I'm wrong Katie x
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Honestly my brain is friedI might be wrong though.. although being British doesn't automatically make you become "white" or Caucasian as ethnicity. So, from what @katiestewart said. Her declaring that she's Russian, Bahamian and English doesn't mean anything unless she ticks that she's mixed race and from Caucasian/ black carribeanthe survey she tick that she's mixed race under white/black Caribbean ethnicity.
e.g. I'm British but I tick "Chinese" as my ethnicity even though I was born in Thailand and can't speak any Chinese
Correct me if I'm wrong Katie x
this is so complicated lol.So what I mean for NYC’s case she is claiming she is Russian, England and Bahamian which means absolutely nothing when it comes to what ethnicity she is considering there are white, black, Asian, Hispanic etc people who will be born in those countries. From my understanding your nationality is the country you’re born in so for nyc she is born in America so her nationality is American and it’ll never change. Her passport/ birth certificate or whatever official documents will always say her nationality is American. What nyc should be claiming to be is her ancestors are from russia, England and the Bahamas but her herself isn’t from any of those countries. If my memory is correct nyc claims that her mother is Bahamian and she says this in a way to prove that her mother is black but in reality someone being from the Bahamas doesn’t mean they’re black. It’s like saying everyone from England is white which just isn’t the case. You can be from any country and be any race even if you’re in the minority or majority for that country. Is this even making sense? It makes sense in my head
@MissDolly you might need to correct me here so for your example of yourself you were born in Thailand therefore your nationality is Thai and your race is Asian. If you now live in the uk I wouldn’t imagine your nationality would ever change even if you live in a different country now. This is all so confusing lol I’ve only ever lived in the uk so I wouldn’t know if your nationality changes if you move country
What nyc has replied to that person is nationalities. She is American, that's it. Unless she was born in a different country.I might be wrong though.. although being British doesn't automatically make you become "white" or Caucasian as ethnicity. So, from what @katiestewart said. Her declaring that she's Russian, Bahamian and English doesn't mean anything unless she ticks that she's mixed race and from Caucasian/ black carribeanthe survey she tick that she's mixed race under white/black Caribbean ethnicity.
e.g. I'm British but I tick "Chinese" as my ethnicity even though I was born in Thailand and can't speak any Chinese
Correct me if I'm wrong Katie x
Although I never understand why some people call themselves African/American even if they were born in America. Is it to do with ancestors?
That's like me saying I'm a quarter Irish and Welsh and half English
Myself, when I was born was on English soil so I'm from England. Whatever box she ticks on a form for her ethnicity, is her ethnicity.
Americans just have some weird obsession with their ancestors. Like you’re just American and that’s okWhat nyc has replied to that person is nationalities. She is American, that's it. Unless she was born in a different country.
Although I never understand why some people call themselves African/American even if they were born in America. Is it to do with ancestors?
That's like me saying I'm a quarter Irish and Welsh and half English
Whatever box she ticks on a form for her ethnicity, is her ethnicity.
It baffles me. Like you say, it's okay to say your American, British or German etc.
Google is telling me that your nationality can change if you move country and apply for citizenship… but this still doesn’t apply to nyc so she’s still American
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Literally! Like what is the obsession they have. What connection does nyc claim to have to these countries. I bet she’s never stepped foot in Russia in her life. Wouldn’t be surprised if her parents or grandparents haven’t either
Yes it's to do with ancestry . Some will say Black American others like most of my family will say African American as direct links to the Africans brought over as slaves.What nyc has replied to that person is nationalities. She is American, that's it. Unless she was born in a different country.
Although I never understand why some people call themselves African/American even if they were born in America. Is it to do with ancestors?
That's like me saying I'm a quarter Irish and Welsh and half English
Whatever box she ticks on a form for her ethnicity, is her ethnicity.
My nationality is British and my ethnicity is mixed race
It’s like they feel like if they say they’re American it makes them feel less connected to their race. So for example say you’re Asian but you don’t live in Asia. This doesn’t make you any less asian. Do you know what I mean?
Oh I see!
You're right and that's totally make sense about NYC. Yes I'm Thai by nationality and Asian - Chinese by ethnicity. The reason I'm putting Chinese in (not to try to make things anymore confusing) is because here in UK they have asian Indian, Japanese and so forth.Honestly my brain is fried
So what I mean for NYC’s case she is claiming she is Russian, England and Bahamian which means absolutely nothing when it comes to what ethnicity she is considering there are white, black, Asian, Hispanic etc people who will be born in those countries. From my understanding your nationality is the country you’re born in so for nyc she is born in America so her nationality is American and it’ll never change. Her passport/ birth certificate or whatever official documents will always say her nationality is American. What nyc should be claiming to be is her ancestors are from russia, England and the Bahamas but her herself isn’t from any of those countries. If my memory is correct nyc claims that her mother is Bahamian and she says this in a way to prove that her mother is black but in reality someone being from the Bahamas doesn’t mean they’re black. It’s like saying everyone from England is white which just isn’t the case. You can be from any country and be any race even if you’re in the minority or majority for that country. Is this even making sense? It makes sense in my head
@MissDolly you might need to correct me here so for your example of yourself you were born in Thailand therefore your nationality is Thai and your race is Asian. If you now live in the uk I wouldn’t imagine your nationality would ever change even if you live in a different country now. This is all so confusing lol I’ve only ever lived in the uk so I wouldn’t know if your nationality changes if you move country
Due to visa situation, I applied to become a British citizenship as
1. It's easier to travel around with a British passport than a Thai one
2. Work wise it's much easier to just tell people I'm British to reduce unintentional desceimination.
3. Thai nationality is one of many that can hold dual citizenship. So, I just think why not.
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She's probably tick white - CaucasianWhat nyc has replied to that person is nationalities. She is American, that's it. Unless she was born in a different country.
Although I never understand why some people call themselves African/American even if they were born in America. Is it to do with ancestors?
That's like me saying I'm a quarter Irish and Welsh and half English
Whatever box she ticks on a form for her ethnicity, is her ethnicity.
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Exactly, I'm not turning white ans develop blue eyes just because I'm here in the UK. I'm still Thai/Asian
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Yes & America is so diverse to due to European settlers, immigration, slavery. I don't think it does as that's in you're dna
I think she would tick either depending on what she gains from it & the situation. She can add tan & take it awayYou're right and that's totally make sense about NYC. Yes I'm Thai by nationality and Asian - Chinese by ethnicity. The reason I'm putting Chinese in (not to try to make things anymore confusing) is because here in UK they have asian Indian, Japanese and so forth.
Due to visa situation, I applied to become a British citizenship as
1. It's easier to travel around with a British passport than a Thai one
2. Work wise it's much easier to just tell people I'm British to reduce unintentional desceimination.
3. Thai nationality is one of many that can hold dual citizenship. So, I just think why not.
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She's probably tick white - Caucasian
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Exactly, I'm not turning white ans develop blue eyes just because I'm here in the UK. I'm still Thai/Asian
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