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It feels a bit like Ellie and Ben have been dragged to this point just so the experts can point out gaslighting and manipulation. Which I kinda agree with because highlighting this shit on mainstream TV is a good thing. But on the other hand, these "experts" have to have recognised these behaviours earlier (like we all did) so why prolong it??
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