Madeleine McCann

[Lynseyp]

Many years ago a friend of mine knew a footballer who donated money to the McCann's fund to help find Maddie. Kate then used it to pay off her mortgage, word got back to the footballer who quite rightly fumed. He demanded it back unless it went towards the fund.

 

[RazRazRazMataz]

The timing is very convenient isn’t it! It seems like they’ve already gathered a lot of information about this line of enquiry, so why is it only released now?

I don’t get this - when Is the right time to announce it? A cover up by who and why? The German police are as involved as ours, and are making a statement at midday.

 

[Tublet83]

Even if they didn’t do it, their neglect led to it.... they failed to safeguard their own children. I can never get over leaving them it’s just absurd.

 

[Ranty McRantington]

Speculation on the gossip thread is that its back in the news again merely to garner more donations to the 'Find Madeleine' fund.

Madeleine McCann: More funds pledged for police investigation

More than £11m has been spent on the Metropolitan Police inquiry since it began in 2011.

www.bbc.co.uk

You're right. I can not believe how much has been spent on this investigation. £11 million if the press are correct. The government have pledged another minimum of £300,000 this year alone, with the exact figure being confirmed in October, according to this story! I know she needs and most definitely deserves to be found but that is a lot of money for one investigation into one missing person. I've never known a case like it x

 

[Lucyxxxx]

Sorry I just wanted to add. I know someone who's child had to have heart surgery, G being the surgeon. She said he was the coldest person she had ever met.

 

[Pajxo]

The conspiracy theory on Madeline McCanns disappearance that has always made sense to me ( with evidence from the documentary to back parts of it up ) that the family went out for dinner and they drugged all 3 kids to make them sleep. This is definitely true as they admitted self medicating, I then believe that Madeline got up and ended up having a fall and dying ( which makes sense in line with the sniffer dog finding traces of her blood in the apartment ) Gerry mccann then disposed of her body at sea ( more than five witnesses saw him going down to the beach carrying something which could have been a small child ) the reason for them not owning up to her fall was because then an autopsy would have been carried out and they gave her too big a dose therefore it would have implicated them. There’s a few variables of the above story which I have also considered could be true.

I don’t know if the reason I chose to believe this is not just because of evidence supporting but the thought of an awful ring of men getting hold of a sweet innocent girl is too much to think about. I think that the best outcome the parents can hope for if it wasn’t them is that she did die of an awful accident unknown to them ( better than some sick men taking her) or a family who desperately wanted a child kidnapped her but she has led a nice life...

I do hope we find out in our lifetime

 

[Dexy]

Is it true that Kate went for a haircut in Portugal when Maddie went missing? She had booked the appointment before Maddie went missing and then still attended, I don’t know if this is true though?

What gets me, and perhaps it shouldn’t, but myself and many others said if they had been a working class couple that worked in non professional jobs then the Social Work Dept would’ve swooped in and took the twins off of them as soon as they arrived back in the UK because they left her in an apartment and one that provided that listening service thing, I get that the McCanns have obviously punished themselves enough but they never looked like they were hurt enough, like I couldn’t eat or sleep or shower if that had happened to me, and yet they never had a hair out of place and nor did they cry, anyone ever see them cry? Kate also wrote a book going on about she and Gerry’s fucking sex life! Ffs they haven’t made themselves look good at all.

I hate to quote the The Scum. They have always supported the McCanns.
But look at this headline.

Baby girl died in house fire ‘after feckless mum went out clubbing leaving SIX-YEAR-OLD in charge of five kids’

AN 8-MONTH-OLD baby girl has died in a house fire where six children were left alone as their mothers were at a nightclub. The fire broke out around 2am on Sunday in Antioch Tennessee, killing Jrea…

www.thesun.co.uk

Or this one...

Mum left son, 4, home alone so she could go drinking at Wetherspoons

A FECKLESS mum left her four-year-old son alone so she could go boozing with a pal at Wetherspoons. The youngster was discovered by cops surrounded by empty vodka bottles and “very little foo…

www.thesun.co.uk

Never once seen them call the McCanns feckless.

Compare to the tone of this ...

Everything that happened to Madeleine McCann and when she went missing

MADELEINE McCann vanished from her family’s Portuguese holiday home 17 years ago. Her whereabouts remains unknown despite a police investigation costing more than £13million. When did Madelei…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[jewelkitty]

Other than what was presented in the Netflix doc, the other thing that made me doubt Kate and Gerry's guilt is that they keep dragging it up, they keep bringing attention to it years and years later. Surely if they were guilty, they would prefer to let it be "forgotten" about?

 

[Guyyyyyzzzzzz]

So here’s my five pence worth I believe they 100% did it. They are drs so would be aware of CSE and abuse so why you would leave a child to potentially be taken is beyond me knowing what can happen to children that are trafficked.


I wasn’t a parent at the time of Maddie and I remember the most horrific feeling of my stomach being twisted and twisted to think of what that child is going to be possibly subjected to. That for most parents is the worst nightmare but I never ever saw that with them not even a glimpse.

I like to think I’m a good at people reading and I have never got anything just a bunch of wtf why would you say that feelings. I wasn’t a parent but I would be searching high an low for my child not that I would never ever leave my child not in this country let alone another.

Also ‘they have taken her’

Who Kate? Who took her?? Why didn’t they take the twins??? None of that will ever ever sit right with me.


They will never be brought to justice for what they did and that is because our own government are involved with the funding and why no proper questions were asked.


I work in children’s services and this would not happen with the children I work with. Why was the twins left with parents who clearly and openly neglected them

 

[Gym&Tonic]

2020 has certainly been a very strange year. Its been a non stop roller coster of huge events right from the beginning with all the trouble in Iran, the bush fires in Australia, the Harry and Meghan stuff, Covid, the racial problems in the USA and now this. Im quite worried about what its going to throw up next.

 

[Sara_M]

He seems to be a depraved individual ,his kosovan girlfriend was underage he used to beat her to a pulp .A key British witness has identified him as the man near the McCann's apartment and they found some really disturbing child porn in a warehouse he used.Don'tw about the creche stuff why would she do that?

Jane Tanner was also once so sure it was Robert Murat she saw. Then there was this guy that tanner saw.

Then it was a victoria Beckham lookalike

Then this guy

Here are all the "suspects" so far


They actually released this at one stage! It would be funny if it wasnt so tragic

 

[Sara_M]

I saw a few people mention phone logs earlier which reminded me of another interesting point!
So, remember a suspect named Robert Murat had been identified? It has been speculated that Robert might be more significant that we think. That he maybe has involvement high up, perhaps governmental (stick with me here! )

Robert had dual portugese and British citizenship and split his time between both placed (had a German girlfriend) He had been a police translator for Norfolk at one time.

Anyhoooo, for some reason, Robert booked a flight to portugal at midnight of Sunday 30th April and a few hours later was at the airport and in Portugal for Monday the 1st May. On 4th May, he volunteered his translator expertise but acted so suspiciously he got himself arrested and dodgy stories about him began appearing. HOWEVER, could this have been a deliberate attempt to distract?

What is VERY interesting is on Wednesday 2nd May at 3PM both Robert and Gerry turned their phones off, within 6 minutes of each other. BOTH phones remained switched off for 32hrs and BOTH were switched on at 11pm on 3rd May, 1 hour after the Madeline alarm was officially raised. That's a mad coincidence!!
When Gerry was asked by a reporter If he had previously known Robert, he looked shift AF and said "no comment." Pretty unusual answer if you didn't know some dude in Portugal.

So, was Robert drafted in and connected to the same influential, powerful people that Gerry was connected to? Was he deliberately brought in to aid in the cover up? And does this add any weight to the theory that something happened earlier than 3rd?!

 

[Miss98]

I will always believe that her parents were something to do with it, even if by mistake.
My personal belief is they maybe gave her a wrong dose before going out to their tapas meal and she slipped/fell out of bed getting up in the night and they panicked. I think it's wrong that so much money has been put into her disappearance when many other children have gone missing since and don't get half as much coverage or investment. Sorry, but if Madeleine's parents were a council estate couple or working class, guarantee they would be dealt with differently. Have a look at the "forbidden" documentary on YouTube or Google where the lead Portuguese investigator of the case aired his views along with evidence - it all stacks up against them. If my child went missing in a country I wouldn't be playing tennis a few days later and fly back to England, I would be searching relentlessly. It all seems too weird how they gave up quickly and buggered off back home. There's definitely more than meets the eye and I may be wrong here, but Gerry has an uncomfortable feel about him. They've done this many times over the years, saying they have a suspect and it all goes tumbleweed again.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

Did anyone hear about a priest in Portugal? Being devout Catholic,well KM is,they used to visit him all the time. Next thing the priest says he near wants to hear of their names again. Did they confess?

 

[caitlinbullen]

To the posters who claim the parents weren’t sad enough, you clearly haven’t watched all the footage from that time. They were always braking down, especially Kate. Gary even stormed out of an interview once, as the interviewer wanted to waste valuable time pressing them on the accusations the public were making against them rather than actually help find their missing child. The more people that accused the parents, the more people stopped looking for the real monster who took her. It’s always angered me as I think the truth would come out quicker (whether you think that would be them or someone else) if people had the attitude of ‘Lets find Madeline’ instead of ‘What is the point, it was the parents’.

I’ve always felt that Gerry came across very badly in interviews and did him and Kate no favours in focussing suspicion on them, however he is a consultant and for me this made me feel a bit differently about why he might have acted the way he did (I.e arrogant, unfeeling twat!)

Gerry works as a Consultant, apparently a bloody successful and well regarded one at that. If you work in medical circles (or a hospital in any capacity) you will be aware that consultants are commonly known to often be massive arseholes (sorry to any consultants in the room!) They’re like Demi-gods in hospitals, don’t take to being challenged kindly. Their modus operandi in their job is to come into every situation immediately ready to call the shots and generally take charge of everyone in the room. They literally stalk around hospitals/wards (depending on their area of expertise) making quick-fire critical decisions, and when they say jump, you say how high! You don’t piss them off, and unless you’re 200% sure of your conviction, you certainly don’t fucking question them. (not to their face anyway-ha!)

I suppose what I’m saying is that for someone like that to be suddenly plunged into a whole heap of new situations in his personal life where he was not only the least knowledgeable in the room (in a professional sense), but with very little control over the situation, then I can see why he constantly reacted badly- it turned everything he knew about how to deal with situations on its head. I think he’s probably a massive dick in real life, but to be such a successful consultant, you kind of have to be in my opinion (certainly true of pretty much every consultant I‘ve ever met lol)- so he would have a very high opinion of himself, be used to being absolutely in control and people always dancing to his tune. From a physiologist point of view, I think it would make for an interesting study and probably provide quite a lot of mitigation for how he was perceived.

In conclusion, I just think he’s a controlling arsehole of a man, but I don’t think that makes him guilty. I just think his stress reaction was just not what most ‘normal’ people would expect and that he was really fucking angry a lot of the time. He wanted to find his daughter and his instincts were not to play the teary, pleading Dad- he went into consultant-mode so trying to manage everything and everyone, bossy, domineering and overbearing. To be fair, that approach would have been what worked in his day-job for years so understandable that he would fall back on it.

I am completely on the fence about their involvement; I am swayed all the time and every time I read more information! I guess that’s why a lot of us are fascinated by the case.

 

[cushtybert]

I still can’t believe the parents haven’t been charged with neglect. Poor Maddie it’s just so sad

 

[SpookyLumberjack]

exactly. You wouldn’t function would you especially if you didn’t know what happened. If you watch interviews of parents who’ve kids have gone missing the common theme is they’re either out looking or they’ve stayed at home. They all said that time essentially stood still and it was all they could think about. not have a tennis match or going for a run.

It's a bizarre reaction. I vividly remember when I was a kid (around 10) playing outside locally I was less than 10 minutes late coming home (I had to be home at a certain time), I had gone further away out of the usual roads I skated around (all within a few mins walk from where I lived) with a friend and hadn't worn my watch. My mum went out looking for me in the usual places near the flat and then got 2 neighbours to help and 1 more was waiting outside her door in case I'd come back while she was out. I remember seeing them when I went home and I felt so ashamed. She was distraught, I made sure I never did it again. That was over 20 years ago and I still remember my mums face being so afraid. How can they have been exercising the next day? How?

 

[Onthehop]

Im unsurprised to hear this. For the record although I don't think the McCann's had anything to do with her disappearance I do think they were massively negligent and got away with that because they were an affluent middle class professional couple, and I've no doubt that had a working class couple done the same thing they'd have been torn to shreds by the press. Its never been normal in my world to leave your children unattended in a hotel room in a foreign country, especially when a babysitting service was provided. Its just pure lunacy.

I also don't think Kate was a 'natural mother' in that it was no secret she struggled to control Maddie, who by all accounts a bit of a livewire (a normal toddler in other words). The family had a full time nanny, despite the fact that Kate only worked part time. The nanny was meant to go with them to Portugal but couldn't go for whatever reason. I mean who takes a nanny on holiday with them?! I wonder why people like even have children when they clearly can't be arsed parenting them themselves!

Exactly. What I felt was so strange at the time that their 3 very young children (toddlers) were in kids club ALL day and then the parents were out socialising every night. They spent so little time with their children on holiday. Why bother even taking them? Very odd.

 

[KateESJ]

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I don't know you know,my friend died in an accident at 23 and her Mum who was a teacher had to give up her job as she could no longer do it and couldn't cope with being there.She was nearing retirement but still it was very sad.It absolutely wrecked their lives.

I mean that’s awful.

But I had to call my workplace just hours after holding my son while watching him die to make sure they knew that I needed more paid leave because I couldn’t afford to lose my job given that I was pregnant and due in a few months.

I just can’t cope with sweeping statements like that. Not when I’ve come so close to joining him myself. I can’t sit and read people who have never lost a child saying losing a child completely ruins your life. Like ffs I know how much it ruins my life but I couldn’t just not do it anymore.

 

[Gym&Tonic]

Many years ago a friend of mine knew a footballer who donated money to the McCann's fund to help find Maddie. Kate then used it to pay off her mortgage, word got back to the footballer who quite rightly fumed. He demanded it back unless it went towards the fund.

Im unsurprised to hear this. For the record although I don't think the McCann's had anything to do with her disappearance I do think they were massively negligent and got away with that because they were an affluent middle class professional couple, and I've no doubt that had a working class couple done the same thing they'd have been torn to shreds by the press. Its never been normal in my world to leave your children unattended in a hotel room in a foreign country, especially when a babysitting service was provided. Its just pure lunacy.

I also don't think Kate was a 'natural mother' in that it was no secret she struggled to control Maddie, who by all accounts a bit of a livewire (a normal toddler in other words). The family had a full time nanny, despite the fact that Kate only worked part time. The nanny was meant to go with them to Portugal but couldn't go for whatever reason. I mean who takes a nanny on holiday with them?! I wonder why people like even have children when they clearly can't be arsed parenting them themselves!