Lucy Letby Case #79

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sebanna

O'lee said:
Dickie being as normal as ever.......
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Very weird. Do the poor people living in Lucy's house know he's planning on visiting.

He's lost a lot of professionalism, he becoming obsessed with her being a victim.
 
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TBH, that is properly sinister....but let them keep at it. It's all rope....
 
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Tofino

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As pointed out on reddit. Geoff said in his report for Baby F that babies heart rate hadn't increased so no insulin poisoning. But Belinda said in her statement there was.
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Yeah many of them commented on the rise in heart rate and even Dr B and someone else discussed a specific condition at the time (it wasn’t).

I think someone pointed out that the panel didn’t read witness statements so makes me wonder if it was in the actual medical records, because I don’t understand why the rest of the panel agreed with Geoff on this when it’s clear the baby had a high heart rate. We are told the whole panel discussed each others findings and agreed with it. So makes me wonder what info they had because why would they ignore this or completely lie about it?
 
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Refracton

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Yeah many of them commented on the rise in heart rate and even Dr B and someone else discussed a specific condition at the time (it wasn’t).

I think someone pointed out that the panel didn’t read witness statements so makes me wonder if it was in the actual medical records, because I don’t understand why the rest of the panel agreed with Geoff on this when it’s clear the baby had a high heart rate. We are told the whole panel discussed each others findings and agreed with it. So makes me wonder what info they had because why would they ignore this or completely lie about it?
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Yes very strange. Here is Dr Harkness noticing a high heat rate.
 

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Refracton

Though I am sure the innocent will say that high heart rate and arrhythmia are different.
 
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Tofino

It is in the medical records and a nurse at the time even messaged Letby about it. Maybe they will just argue over medical definitions.


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sebanna

It did occur to me that maybe babies F and L have somehow got confused. Maybe Chase wrote a report about both of them and whoever wrote the summaries combined them.
Actually I think they are struggling with baby F, so added some of the facts for baby L.
 
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sebanna

Couldn't read the article. Are they saying that they are both challenging that patients can have a sudden drop in blood sugar for natural reasons? That doesn't explain the low c peptide to insulin and doesn't help Letby. In the other case, I'm not sure if they had c peptide to insulin results for all the victims.
 
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Refracton

sebanna said:
Couldn't read the article. Are they saying that they are both challenging that patients can have a sudden drop in blood sugar for natural reasons? That doesn't explain the low c peptide to insulin and doesn't help Letby. In the other case, I'm not sure if they had c peptide to insulin results for all the victims.
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Pretty much.
concluded that new research suggested hypoglycaemia in four of the patients may have be down to natural causes and the assertion that the fifth was killed by Norris was fatally weakened if there was no longer a cluster of suspicious deaths linked to him.
 
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sebanna

Refracton said:
Pretty much.
concluded that new research suggested hypoglycaemia in four of the patients may have be down to natural causes and the assertion that the fifth was killed by Norris was fatally weakened if there was no longer a cluster of suspicious deaths linked to him.
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It's taken the CCRC and CoA years to arrange a hearing for Colin Norris. Doesn't bode well for Letby.
 
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