Lucy Letby Case #74

[Thegirlwhouk]

I am so glad these parents are being given this opportunity. It's increasingly clear that there has been massive duck up at COCH and exactly who is to blame. I hope they get hauled over the coals.

Soooo much is coming out now that there is no way people can continue to claim they think she's innocent. Absolute joke.

Really appreciate everyone posting here again, it's good to discuss it all and hear peoples thoughts.

 

[sebanna]

The Letby apologists feel the 40% tube dislodgment figure is meaningless. They think the 1% must come from a unit with hardly any ventilated babies and Lucy was obviously with the sickest babies, with ( yet more) incompetent doctors not securing the tubes. How unlucky can one nurse get ?

 

[Hazara04]

Next week is evidence from all these mothers not sure why only one father.

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Special measures are in place so only Lady Thirlwall and immediate legal representatives are with the family. Other core participants and media will hear live audio. I don’t know what ‘no onward disclosure of the audio transmission’ means for the media though, does that mean they can’t report anything at all? Or just not publish the audio.

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@MmmB777 ffs Kathleen Stock!!!

Forget what you know about Lucy Letby

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No idea who this stupid bint is but yes we do know she is guilty.She was convicted. A few articles full if misinformation doesn't change this. She could literally say this about Ian Huntley, Rowe West or any convicted criminal.

 

[Tofino]

It’s amazing how much the fan club are already tying themselves in knots, desperate to find evidence to dispute what the KC for the families said about the LWH audit of tube dislodgements.

The KC literally said “you will hear evidence” but they have already decided that the evidence is not correct and it must be disproved.

They can’t even wait to hear what the evidence is before dismissing it. And they want to talk to us about confirmation bias?

 

[tay65]

The Letby apologists feel the 40% tube dislodgment figure is meaningless. They think the 1% must come from a unit with hardly any ventilated babies and Lucy was obviously with the sickest babies, with ( yet more) incompetent doctors not securing the tubes. How unlucky can one nurse get ?

So they must think it's not just COC which has a crap NNU but LWH has as well to have so many incompetent doctors.

 

[Tofino]

The Letby apologists feel the 40% tube dislodgment figure is meaningless. They think the 1% must come from a unit with hardly any ventilated babies and Lucy was obviously with the sickest babies, with ( yet more) incompetent doctors not securing the tubes. How unlucky can one nurse get ?

haha we’ve probably seen the same posts!

I mean, look at this?! Hate to break it to her after all that work, but the evidence was per shift, at LWH, not per baby. How many shift cycles does the average NNU baby stay admitted for?
Also, she’s quoting NICU. Not all babies in an NNU is receiving intensive care. So is she comparing apples to oranges? Who knows, because the KC hasn’t delivered the evidence yet

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Can’t edit post but just want to check: if a baby needs ETT does that mean they will be in ICU or could they be in HDU? We know COCH NNU had different rooms for ICU, HDU and lower.

 

[Futtrit]

For duck sake!

 

[Takemetoyourbuffet]

Stolen from Reddit (because they're not all bad over there)! Interesting thread on X about parts of the New Yorker article being very quietly retracted and edited. I wonder why they'd do that

 

[Daisydunn15]

Where's the bit about her looking back on patient notes? Every electronic notes system I've worked with has made you give a reason for accessing notes if you don't have a relationship with the patient, surely they can go back and check whether she inputted a rationale for accessing them.

The handover sheets I know I've mentioned before, I've absolutely taken the odd one home accidentally but obv never kept them under my bed in their 100s I've always known student nurses to have them though.

 

[Tofino]

Stolen from Reddit (because they're not all bad over there)! Interesting thread on X about parts of the New Yorker article being very quietly retracted and edited. I wonder why they'd do that

ahhh this is a great find!! Very very interesting thread.

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Where's the bit about her looking back on patient notes? Every electronic notes system I've worked with has made you give a reason for accessing notes if you don't have a relationship with the patient, surely they can go back and check whether she inputted a rationale for accessing them.

The handover sheets I know I've mentioned before, I've absolutely taken the odd one home accidentally but obv never kept them under my bed in their 100s I've always known student nurses to have them though.

they ask her about it in the police interviews. This is the transcript bit. The jury will have heard this but I don’t remember it being reported as any extra evidence.

 

[AllieBee]

I think it's this perverted b that's the thick one. So narrow minded and completely blinkered to the truth. Why are Letby fans so dense and stupid.

 

[oldjamfan]

I think it's this perverted b that's the thick one. So narrow minded and completely blinkered to the truth. Why are Letby fans so dense and stupid.

He’s as sick and twisted as she is, the bleeping W

 

[Tofino]

I think it's this perverted b that's the thick one. So narrow minded and completely blinkered to the truth. Why are Letby fans so dense and stupid.

I laugh at his ‘tattle hate mob’ stuff. I like the attention actually, maybe people browsing Letby on Twitter will see his posts and come check our threads out.

But his repeated attacks on the parents is disgusting. He’s a vile, horrid pathetic excuse for a human being who will never know the love those parents have for their babies.

 

[Takemetoyourbuffet]

I think it's this perverted b that's the thick one. So narrow minded and completely blinkered to the truth. Why are Letby fans so dense and stupid.

Reeks of incel

 

[sebanna]

ahhh this is a great find!! Very very interesting thread.

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they ask her about it in the police interviews. This is the transcript bit. The jury will have heard this but I don’t remember it being reported as any extra evidence.

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So the police extensively interview Lucy, over the post it note yet she never says, " I've received counselling, which suggests I pretend I'm a evil baby killer, write it out on paper and keep it for years, as a way of coping with the stress of being redeployed".
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Chris may do us another one of his videos.

 

[AllieBee]

So the police extensively interview Lucy, over the post it note yet she never says, " I've received counselling, which suggests I pretend I'm a evil baby killer, write it out on paper and keep it for years, as a way of coping with the stress of being redeployed".
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Chris may do us another one of his videos.

Yeah its worse than we thought. But not in the way your tiny brain is thinking p

 

[Danica Catrick]

He probably thought he would be safe from investigation there. They are such cowards, they royally ducked up and they will all be blaming each other and trying to wriggle out of it instead of being honest and owning their mistakes
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Just thought, would this inquiry have any access to their emails etc, if there were email threads just between management that might incriminate them but have been deleted?

I'm just catching up (it's been a week!) so apologies if this has been covered, but I can provide some answers re. emails.

Emails are part of the official record, so the inquiry will have access. In the public sector organisation I work for, the inboxes and sent items folders of specific key individuals are retained in their entirety, but we also have the ability to do a search across all emails for keywords. For example, we harvested and retained emails mentioning Covid to demonstrate how we responded to the pandemic.

As for deleting incriminating emails, once there is an investigation underway the organisation are forbidden from deleting any records as part of the discovery process. Anyone doing this would be breaking the law. Also, you can delete emails from your computer but they may still be available on the organisation's servers, at least for a period. Trying to cover up incriminating behaviour like this would be very risky.

ETA we work with a lot of inquiries, and this is the way it usually works in my experience anyway

 

[Hazara04]

I find it infuriating that despite the families' pleas for people to stop spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories as it is causing them a huge amount of distress. The likes of Knapton are completely ignoring this and are creating clickbaity articles like this to whip up the conspiracy theorists. Trying to frame the consultants as liars, less than a week after it was reported that a medical witness was physically attacked and another had to report abuse on social media to the police. They are morally bankrupt.

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[oldjamfan]

I'm just catching up (it's been a week!) so apologies if this has been covered, but I can provide some answers re. emails.

Emails are part of the official record, so the inquiry will have access. In the public sector organisation I work for, the inboxes and sent items folders of specific key individuals are retained in their entirety, but we also have the ability to do a search across all emails for keywords. For example, we harvested and retained emails mentioning Covid to demonstrate how we responded to the pandemic.

As for deleting incriminating emails, once there is an investigation underway the organisation are forbidden from deleting any records as part of the discovery process. Anyone doing this would be breaking the law. Also, you can delete emails from your computer but they may still be available on the organisation's servers, at least for a period. Trying to cover up incriminating behaviour like this would be very risky.

ETA we work with a lot of inquiries, and this is the way it usually works in my experience anyway

That’s really useful insight, thanks for that