Lucy Letby Case #70

[Batfurger]

We know what you mean. Tattle blocks that word and changes it to ponce. We all know you meant n.

Also Letby was in Bronzefield at some point wasn't she? Did you come across her?

I did not. I did come across Emma Tustin and some other wildly murderous women but whose targets were not children.

The only real question one asked was “remand or sentenced”. Some of the sentences women would elaborate. Remand was more like anxiety inducing because it was open ended and I had lots of chats about anxiety and the future. I was an outlier as a dentist with several masters degrees. Ugh. I sound like a twit.
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I’m still struggling very hard with it and therapy is going well. Dispelling myths helps me. I had to leave mumsnet because of the sanctimonious tw@ts on there who couldn’t imagine a situation where they would need to be interested in this. I didn’t think I’d need to be interested until I found out I’d been accused of having a machine gun.

 

[Motherofpugs]

I did not. I did come across Emma Tustin and some other wildly murderous women but whose targets were not children.

The only real question one asked was “remand or sentenced”. Some of the sentences women would elaborate. Remand was more like anxiety inducing because it was open ended and I had lots of chats about anxiety and the future. I was an outlier as a dentist with several masters degrees. Ugh. I sound like a twit.
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I’m still struggling very hard with it and therapy is going well. Dispelling myths helps me. I had to leave mumsnet because of the sanctimonious tw@ts on there who couldn’t imagine a situation where they would need to be interested in this. I didn’t think I’d need to be interested until I found out I’d been accused of having a machine gun.

What is the experience like in prison for people like Emma Tustin? How long did you end up staying in remand?

I can’t imagine how awful that whole experience must have been for you. Thank you for sharing its really interesting to hear.

(Also hi to all the OGs I still lurk here waiting for baby K’s retrial and for when LLs appeal gets thrown out.)

 

[Batfurger]

@Motherofpugs i suspect it’s very lonely. She would be locked up a lot of the time. Escorted everywhere and likely not have any fellow inmates to socialise with or a job to do which helps pass the time.

 

[followthedolphin]

I just popped my head in to say hi . It’s so good to see so many of those who kept me company for months on end when the trial was on

Interesting to hear from someone who’s spent time inside a women’s prison @Batfurger thank you. Closest I got was as a trainee solicitor 30 yrs ago went to Holloway which I think has now closed. Been in quite a few men’s & YOI establishments tho.
On another note why have all our avatars got purple hats today?
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…and now the purple hats have gone

 

[Batfurger]

I just popped my head in to say hi . It’s so good to see so many of those who kept me company for months on end when the trial was on

Interesting to hear from someone who’s spent time inside a women’s prison @Batfurger thank you. Closest I got was as a trainee solicitor 30 yrs ago went to Holloway which I think has now closed. Been in quite a few men’s & YOI establishments tho.
On another note why have all our avatars got purple hats today?
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…and now the purple hats have gone

I remember a proper barney between this enormous woman who’d been on remand for a Very Long Time & someone who’d been recalled, about the closing date of Holloway! The second thing I googled because I HATE not knowing things!! (2016 btw).

All legal visits on VTC these days. Much more civilised for you.

 

[Copacapybara]

Thank you. I stole it from the Tofino tourist board Instagram page (I sometimes forget Tofino is a place and not my actual name, even though I chose it as it’s one of my favourite places I’ve visited)

I saw the placename recently and can’t imagine it as anything but you
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^nervously introducing myself^

Long time lurker, only just got a code etc.

I was held on remand at HMP Bronzefield earlier this year for charges which have now been dropped (no evidence offered by the crown). I won’t go into detail as there is ongoing criminal and civil shenanigans with the police and my false accuser.

Anyhoo, I wondered if anyone had any questions about life in prison, specifically Bronzefield which is run by Sodexo. What life is like there for people who’ve abused children, the mother & baby unit etc.

I am certain you will be kind to me.

I find it really disturbing that prisons are essentially privatised now- I can’t imagine that’s good for the wellbeing of people in there.

I’m so glad you got out! But also very sorry you experienced something so traumatising.

 

[elderflowerrose]

Mumsnet is purely about giving people as hard a time as possible. I wouldn’t worry about that.

 

[AManWalksDownTheStreet]

Mumsnet is purely about giving people as hard a time as possible. I wouldn’t worry about that.

It always makes me snort when I see them going on about how nasty Tattle is.

 

[Secretbrillopad]

It always makes me snort when I see them going on about how nasty Tattle is.

Absolutely hilarious when they're the most judgmental crones to ever exist.

 

[magikarplover]

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...il-private-en-suite-bathroom-phone-TV-is.html

Bronzefield?

 

[Tilly Kister]

I wonder if Letby was a big fan of medical dramas while she was growing up? Holby City, Greys Anatomy, Call the Midwife - was she always watching Casualty? Was she a House fan? Did she in her twisted, eternally adolescent mind which saw her litter her diary entries with love hearts around Doctor Dreamy's name, drive her to begin doing this?

She was constantly bored at work when there was no massive crisis occurring. She would complain to others on shift that it was "dull". Her word for there being a number of babies on the ward who were strong, getting well and being readied to go home. What sort of nurse is waiting with bated breath for a "busy" night when "busy" in their job means someone is suffering and at risk of death?
Her vision of nursing was not the dedicated, repeated quietly routine job. Truly good nursing is 99% skillful repetition of all the tasks needed to keep patients well. Cleaning, bathing, changing tubes, filling feeds, monitoring temps.

Not our Luce. No she needed alarms and buzzers and crash carts clattering down the hall. Someone shouting the Latin names for drugs, brave nurses rushing to fulfill the orders Tense vigils around the bed as the professional team watch those drugs administered. The relief, the cheering and applause you always get in those crap shows when the sinus rhythm starts up again. The wave of grief when all they see on the screen is the flat line. The compassionate delivery of bad news to families and parents. which somehow always makes the parents, even in this dark moment feel comfort and express their gratitude to the medicos for their immense caring.

Watch those medical shows. It's all go go go on them. Someone is always coding, someone is always grieving, there are always the brilliant, dedicated medicos there, saving the day and the patient. Or qurestioning their vocation when their Herculean efforts fail. Photogenic doctors' & nurses' eyes meet over defib paddles. They bond through shared grief and shared triumph. They say meaningful phrases to one another about the nature of loss and the need to carry on and finally, their fingers entwine, their dewy eyes meet... they kiss...



Was she writing her own demented soap opera?

 

[tay65]

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...il-private-en-suite-bathroom-phone-TV-is.html

Bronzefield?

She's described as high profile which is because of the magnitude of her crimes. The more evil the more high profile. So why have better treatment because she's high profile, it really doesn't make any sense. I wonder if she feels superior to the other prisoners because of her notoriety and the way she is being treated by the prison service.

 

[Tilly Kister]

She's described as high profile which is because of the magnitude of her crimes. The more evil the more high profile. So why have better treatment because she's high profile, it really doesn't make any sense. I wonder if she feels superior to the other prisoners because of her notoriety and the way she is being treated by the prison service.

No she feels superior to the other prisoners because she's a lower middle class spoiled Princess Bitchface who believes they're all beneath her & the greatest injustice ever perpetrated on these isles is the fact that she has been locked up with what she undoubtedly regards as "common criminals and lowlifes"

 

[ElChanguito]

The devil is watching Letby

 

[Rodeodown]

Killer nurse Lucy Letby found unfit to practise and struck off register

The serial killer is removed from the nursing register by a panel which heard she maintains her innocence.

www.bbc.co.uk

Struck off but still claiming innocence. Rot in hell.

 

[Tofino]

Killer nurse Lucy Letby found unfit to practise and struck off register

The serial killer is removed from the nursing register by a panel which heard she maintains her innocence.

www.bbc.co.uk

Struck off but still claiming innocence. Rot in hell.

A two day hearing?! Wtf?

But the NMC's fitness to practice panel allotted two days for the hearing to determine her professional future.

What exactly is there to discuss? She’s convicted of a multiple murders and attempted murders.

 

[AManWalksDownTheStreet]

A two day hearing?! Wtf?

But the NMC's fitness to practice panel allotted two days for the hearing to determine her professional future.

What exactly is there to discuss? She’s convicted of a multiple murders and attempted murders.

This tbh. Bureaucratic nonsense.

 

[CrushedIcePlease]

This is madness…. Whole life order for a baby serial killer. It shouldn’t even be a hearing!

 

[Tofino]

Killer nurse Lucy Letby found unfit to practise and struck off register

The serial killer is removed from the nursing register by a panel which heard she maintains her innocence.

www.bbc.co.uk

More detailed article here. Strike off won’t actually take place until January . They have explained the delay - strict legislation. It also means she technically has 28 days to appeal although I don’t expect she will.


Speaking after the hearing, the NMC's chief executive and registrar Andrea Sutcliffe said the body's "thoughts and sympathies... remain with the parents, families and children whose lives have been so terribly impacted by Lucy Letby's heinous and heartbreaking crimes".

She said the NMC had "moved forward" with fitness to practise proceedings "as quickly as possible" following Letby's conviction.

She added that the striking off order against Letby would "take effect in January [and] in the meantime, she remains under interim suspension from the register".

An NMC representative said its regulatory processes were "guided by strict legislation, which sets out a process we must follow before we can impose a sanction".

They said that includes "certain notice periods we need to allow for" and the council had "followed this process as quickly as possible" in respect of Letby's case.

They said Letby would now be sent a letter "confirming the panel's decision", after which she would have 28 days to appeal.

"If no appeal is received, the strike-off will take effect," they added.

 

[#notanadad]

Killer nurse Lucy Letby found unfit to practise and struck off register

The serial killer is removed from the nursing register by a panel which heard she maintains her innocence.

www.bbc.co.uk

More detailed article here. Strike off won’t actually take place until January . They have explained the delay - strict legislation. It also means she technically has 28 days to appeal although I don’t expect she will.


Speaking after the hearing, the NMC's chief executive and registrar Andrea Sutcliffe said the body's "thoughts and sympathies... remain with the parents, families and children whose lives have been so terribly impacted by Lucy Letby's heinous and heartbreaking crimes".

She said the NMC had "moved forward" with fitness to practise proceedings "as quickly as possible" following Letby's conviction.

She added that the striking off order against Letby would "take effect in January [and] in the meantime, she remains under interim suspension from the register".

An NMC representative said its regulatory processes were "guided by strict legislation, which sets out a process we must follow before we can impose a sanction".

They said that includes "certain notice periods we need to allow for" and the council had "followed this process as quickly as possible" in respect of Letby's case.

They said Letby would now be sent a letter "confirming the panel's decision", after which she would have 28 days to appeal.

"If no appeal is received, the strike-off will take effect," they added.

I wouldn’t put it past the witch! I expect she’ll stomp her feet and give it a go - she’s got duck all else to do! I understand the legislation, but Jesus you’d think they could adjust the legislation to say “anyone on the register who is convicted of murder and receives a WLO will be immediately taken off the list from the second the guilty verdict is delivered”. Let’s face it, it’s not going to cause many issues if they do is it