I know it’s the prosecutions job to do this but everything they are saying just points to guilty for me. Before the trial I thought it was all so strange and that no one could possibly murder so many little new born babies. But then maybe I’ll change my mind when the defence have their say.
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Speculating of course, but it's all of the above for me which just raises my suspicions. I am not a nurse, but myself and my colleagues never message each other bad news about children we work with when not in work as its stressful and you need your days away to reset and relax. To me, it's like she's enjoying the attention. She's messaging colleagues about it, being the one to 'break' the news but then also checking in on Facebook to see how the parents are managing? Was the mums Facebook open? I presume it was which was why she kept checking for updates.
We saw her 21st birthday message posted in the press (and copies onto this site) dated from December 2010, which means she was born in December 1989. So throughout most of 2015 she would have been 25.
Which could explain the Facebook stalking
Yes I think quite immature and also lonely. She's obviously very intense about her job and isn't able to take her mind off it with eg partner, friends, hobbies
She does seem obsessed with her job I mean she goes work she comes home she texts work friends .
the Programme she watched is wierd more the fact she watched it before baby A
i do wonder do they more evidence on things she watched or looked up on Google .
the Programme she watched is wierd more the fact she watched it before baby A
i do wonder do they more evidence on things she watched or looked up on Google .
Trivial but that means she's either a Sagittarius or a Capricorn. If she's a Sag, I may be swayed on my opinion. (Jokes)
They definitely are and fixate on clients I work in social services and my younger colleagues seem obsessed with work and their cases and can get quite boring about it . They also text a lot outside of work . Especially I would say colleagues who are from quite sheltered middle class backgrounds don’t know if it’s because our area of work is so alien to them in terms of the clients and the lives they live but I can definitely relate to younger staff seeming much more fixated on work .
Cause she was trying to frame someone else!! Set them up to be the fall guy if incompetence was found as cause of death. Okay, I think she's evil now. So bloody sly.
I think LL had little going on in her personal life hence the obsession with texting , picking up shifts. The job was her life , the text about saying I'm never picking up your shift haha. I know it's very sad and macabe but I have picked up a shift then it's been terrible and we have a death. You kind of become more hardened to traumatic events you have too, to be able to do the job. You can develop a dark sense of humour as a coping mechanism. Same with Adam Kay calling OBS and gynae brats & twats.
It’s not that weird to be fair when you work in the that field , there is a lot of research I’ve come across when I’ve done projects showing that nurses do use humour as a coping mechanism
Last week our shift all got off 2 hours late and had a death too and you may disagree but it’s how some cope with it to relieve their stress
Hence the phrase if I didn’t laugh I would cry
I remember yrs ago a neighbour made a malicious report to social services about me. The SW who came out was 21. Found her on twitter bitching about 'difficult clients' aka me. The cheek.
Yeah, we've got quite a dark sense of humour in social work too. It's a way of detaching emotionally I think
Some of the jokes I've heard would not be acceptable to the general public they call it gallows humour. It's definitely a coping mechanism an unhealthy one sometimes.
All these messages she's sending... they all read as her trying to deflect blame and control the narrative from the very beginning. Nevermind the post it. These are so damning in my eyes.
I definitely feel no one should be allowed to work in social services until they have hit at least 25 . That’s a debate for another day but the majority of my colleagues have zero life experience and and incredibly judgemental of their clients without realising that life can take you all over the place . They are also incredibly zealous if they take a dislike to someone but good at covering it up .
I'm willing to have an open mind, I do think she's guilty so I am biased. But if guilty, she seems she put that uniform on and enjoyed the power and how people perceived her. I think she's a Psychopath in a uniform. Smart, cunning, manipulative and obsessed. She enjoys being having the power of life over death and over people's emotions and I think she revelled in the pain she caused and the after effects. Maybe at times when she thought she would 'lose it all' ie never see her family again, never have a normal life she panicked. Not once did she seem to have sorrow over those young little lives that were lost, the note seemed to just be upset over herself and her situation. Which yeh,i know is understandable. But so far I'm not buying her being innocent as much as I would like to be convinced.
I suppose my point about the post it is that it is too open to interpretation to be considered a solid piece of evidence for the prosecution. I do believe she admitted guilt on that note but I also think the note was left to help her with her defence too.
I also personally think there is absolutely a theme of what looks like an unnatural and deliberate attempt do just that. I think in these kind of cases, the subtlety of the wording and responses can be so telling when taken as part of the broader picture of course. Not alone x
Yeah this one took a dislike to me. I'll get piled on if I say what I did to get her to leave me alone but put it this way I bet she didn't try to pull the stunts she tried on me again.
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