Lucy Letby Case #56

[gigilouxx]

You can’t compare the other babies at all. That’s like murdering someone in a hospice then saying “well other people died”
Other people die every single day, they know what’s suspicious and what’s not

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

Sorry to hear you had a tough childhood, we will mother you here! Absolutely put them in the washer, I always do they come out perfect, I put them in the dryer as well.

Do you!??? I have always been afraid, a friend of mine had a pair of runners melt on her

 

[blueyfan3684]

Oh I'm the queen of decluttering.
If you've got a shredder make yourself a nice pile of unneeded paperwork and do it at night as you're sat comfortably watching TV or rip it up and put it into a bowl of warm water, let it soak and when it's maliable squeeze all the water out. It will eventually harden and whatever was typed/written on it will be gone.

I'm a big fan of containers, particularly in the shed. I decant any paint leftovers into a jar and label which room they're from. I have containers for garden items, paintbrushes, screws, nails etc all labelled and stacked neatly.

Did you get this advice from Lucifer??

 

[GrunkaLunka]

Speaking of washing, has anyone else put trainers in the washing machine and they've been ok?

I'm pretty useless at housey stuff (I was always in and out of the children's home/abusive life at home) so any advice would be really helpful, pls I've looked on google but there's 503839383 different answers

I put trainers in the washing machine and if I need a quick turnaround on cheapo PE trainers then I put them in the dryer. Hold on to the laces and shut them in the top of the dryer door as you close it, this way they get the heat but they don't slam about in the drum.

 

[slingo16]

It’s like saying “What about the babies that died in 2014 and 2013?” errrr medical experts haven’t concluded that any of them were flipping murdered

 

[DellaC]

Half a frog. Was not very nice. It wasn't cooked either in fact just one minute before it got chopped in half it was alive.

Which half was it?

 

[rannyrart]

You can’t compare the other babies at all. That’s like murdering someone in a hospice then saying “well other people died”
Other people die every single day, they know what’s suspicious and what’s not

Precisely, and even then it’s a moot point, the jurors will absolutely not be deliberating over it, so it can’t really be considered.

 

[GrunkaLunka]

Which half was it?

Please be straight down the middle!

 

[blueyfan3684]

@DellaC and @gigilouxx loving the profile pictures

 

[DellaC]

Please be straight down the middle!

If I had a choice I'd definitely want straight down the middle. I couldn't handle 2 eyes or a full bum hole

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

Please be straight down the middle!

I think that's the worst option tbh

 

[A mega Pint]

You can’t say this little snippet and leave us hanging

How did I miss that nugget? I’ve just calmed the hell down.

 

[What's your point]

Yes love Scotland so much to explore! I’m a bit worried about midges, we usually go September term time but now my son is at school we are trying summer hols. Not experienced midges before and I’m terrible for getting bitten. But otherwise can’t wait!

When my son is older I’d love to island hop the Outer Hebrides.

Oh my god do it! Outer Hebrides is my absolute favorite place in the world I cried when I left last time and cannot wait to go back! I will move there one day

 

[DellaC]

@mrs.darcy how are you lovey x

 

[bob321]

Sick of hearing about how the NHS cover things up I swear to god. The hospital phoned the police on themselves after the investigation didn’t come up with anything PLUS given the fact she’s been under investigation for the past 5 YEARS I’m pretty sure the police would have found something. Look at her behaviour, how she doesn’t flinch despite all these crashes, how her colleagues seem on edge and nervous about them yet that slimeball is cool as a cucumber, how she’s so certain of the causes of deaths despite doctors saying they’ve never seen anything like it before.

If this is one great big conspiracy then explain to me how the doctors, the management, her colleagues, grieving and traumatised parents, the police, the cps are all involved giving the exact same recount despite having no communications with eachother.

At this point anyone is allowed their own opinion but to me it’s clear she’s a murderer, an evil waste of oxygen so I blatantly refuse to hear a single person defend her or her bull.

Agreed! I know that you shouldn’t judge a book by it’s cover but if they were using her as a scapegoat and to cover things surely there was a better target not someone who everyone at the time seemed so shocked by/it seemed so out of character/a plain Jane (no offence to Jane’s ). I know SKs don’t wear a badge saying “I am a serial killer” but like someone said earlier if she looked more like Shannon Matthews mum SOME would be more likely to convict and believe.

“The gang of 4” also wouldn’t have raised alarm bells as it brings their conduct/competence under question.

 

[Tofino]

I feel the phrasing "beyond all reasonable doubt" creates doubt by its very nature and has you looking for holes in the case. After I heard it phrased as "satisfied so that you are sure" I felt more comfortable with my opinion that she was G once I thought about it that way. You are being subjective using the evidence provided rather than poking holes and asking questions we don't necessarily have the answers to. But that's just my opinion and I'm nobody and who asked me anyway

that’s funny as I find the ‘satisfied you are sure’ more difficult and it was introduced to make it easier for jurors.

I can cope with beyond reasonable doubt, because it means any doubt needs to be reasonable. And I find a lot of the doubts expressed in this case are not reasonable.

 

[bob321]

oh I meant to answer this on the last thread I think.

the jury can be seen by anyone in the main court. Not really in the other courts because the camera is above them on the wall behind them pointing towards the wider room. I don’t think it’s for any anonymity reasons, just the layout of the room so you can see defendant who sits opposite and barristers etc.

I saw the heads/faces of two of them as they walked back into court as the camera was lower and they were stood up. If it wasn’t such a huge trial then the public are usually in the same room as the jury and they will see them.

Just out of pure nosiness I’ve love to see the jury

 

[Clangers2]

She was a nurse her DNA on something could easily be explained but most likely any DNA would be wiped away because of the amount of cleaning and keeping everything sterile. Another thing Healthcare killers like. In a hospital you can't keep the scene of a death/ incident untampered with.

"Also I don't know if an unhinged rambling doodle half-confession on a sheet of paper from a 'mentally unstable' woman seemingly in the throws of desperation with PTSD as she claims is enough for a conviction."

Lucy claims the PTSD was the result of the arrests. How then can she write a note because she has PTSD before her arrest? Because it's indisputable that she wrote those notes before her arrest.

"Anyone in the medical profession knows that while it is wrong and a breach in confidentiality, many nurses bring home handover sheets by mistake or let them build up in their handbags etc before shredding- I don't think this is ok but it does happen very regularly."

257 though?! Unshredded even though she owned one and not returned to the works confidential waste bin.

I'm not saying she's not guilty, your acting as if your trying to prove her guilt, we all know she did it you'd want to be an idiot not to but I don't think the prosecution proved it with physical evidence, it's all circumstantial that's my point, I don't know if it's enough, we will soon find out

 

[Daisydunn15]

Please god share it. We need the distraction I’m staying up now in the hope you do

Trying to do it without the details but basically we were going at it, in an upright sitting position so we were directly facing each other. He moved his head to the side, I decided for some odd reason to give his ear a little nibble. I'd read about an ear nibble in a book or something, duck knows why it's supposed to be sexy to have someone's rank earlobe in your mouth but I thought id give it a go, it was pretty heated and I thought id add to it.

Then his bleeping ear came off and was just sitting in my mouth. He didn't tell me he had a fake bleeping ear, I thought I'd ripped it off, obviously screamed and gagged. He reattached it and tried to keep on going

 

[pissedandsad]

Half a frog. Was not very nice. It wasn't cooked either in fact just one minute before it got chopped in half it was alive.

What’s the story behind that one, @AllieBee? My daughter ate dog and cat food & treats in college to win a stereo (she better have won!). What did you win and who offed that little frog one minute before it hopped into your mouth? No fibbing!