Lucy Letby Case #56

[MmmB777]

Hi all. I am achually friend of LL. I worked at Chester and went Salsa and other things I can easily just get from newspaper reports. She had two cats by the way and I even know their names but it ain’t allowed publik bcoz there is a law what says you can’t name people’s pets and Judge Goss made it specially for LL.
Can say now her and Noname definitely banged but she really didn’t know what commando meant cos she is very sweet and innocent but I am neutral on everything. Just a coincidence that I hav to change my pants every time I see her beautiful innocent chin.
Can tell you her parents are v v v sad. That’s an exclusive too. Dad carries a bag for life wherever he goes and this tradition and love of bag for life’s was passed down to his daughter. More things I can only know coz I am frend.
I’ve been away but can tell you exactly what happened at kourt yesterday. There was big meeting. BNE says he wants to shag the lot of ya. BM says he’ll only shag the @docmum one.
I am a v close friend of LL and am looking after her matalan rewards card for when I can deliver it to her cat sanctuary in Ibiza.

Eta Noname’s wife is type 1 diabetic. BM’s wife has IBS. Dr Ravi’s wife is a 32DD.

 

[Daisydunn15]

Please god share it. We need the distraction I’m staying up now in the hope you do

Trying to do it without the details but basically we were going at it, in an upright sitting position so we were directly facing each other. He moved his head to the side, I decided for some odd reason to give his ear a little nibble. I'd read about an ear nibble in a book or something, fuck knows why it's supposed to be sexy to have someone's rank earlobe in your mouth but I thought id give it a go, it was pretty heated and I thought id add to it.

Then his fucking ear came off and was just sitting in my mouth. He didn't tell me he had a fake fucking ear, I thought I'd ripped it off, obviously screamed and gagged. He reattached it and tried to keep on going

 

[MmmB777]

yes and everyone believes all the medical experts in those cases too when they tell them the injuries were non-accidental.

I appreciate killings in hospital are more complex than injuries caused at home, but there is literally NO OTHER EXPLANATION for the deaths/collapses of these babies. Any poor care has been accepted as sub-optimal but RULED OUT by experts as causing these events.

Some people just want to bend over backwards to speculate and find any other reason to believe she didn’t do it.

Exactly Liver. Lacerations. Consistent with brute force injury. Road collision injury.
Poison.
More air than an expert in air after death in children had EVER seen.
Parents just nipping out perfectly timing with life threatening cardiac arrests.
Screaming
Bleeding prefously with no cause identified.
Stomachs and bowels blown up like balloons.
Rashes that fleet and disappear combined with distress and sudden death and bodies filled with air in blocks along the spine.
All linked to one person. With a fine tooth comb, years of data analysis placing her there each and every time. Texts showing she didn’t even give the babies basic care, she prolifically text when (according to her defence) she was supposedly so busy, the unit so badly run, babies with such high needs.
Her own notes placing her there. Sometimes changed, sometimes unsigned. Sometimes signed by someone else but in Letby’s handwriting! Coincidently all around suspicious incidents.
Other people remembering her as being there, parents, friends. Standing over cots. No alarms going. Remembering the strange ways she behaved. The awful things she said. The way she imposed herself even when told not to.

Then on top of that.. a bag full of paperwork practically sorted to most of the babies in this case under the bed. Handwritten resus on blue paper towel that has been kept years.
Facebook searches in quick succession linking these babies before anybody had ever linked them. Remembering and caring enough to search but not to remember them in police interview. A note saying I killed them on purpose. I am evil.

Than her performance on the stand. Her arrogance. Her slip ups. Her blatant lies. A supposed conspiracy and cover up by the very people constantly trying to find out what on Earth could be happening on that unit. They had a devil in their midst.

 

[gigilouxx]

If you can use genuine logic as to why you think she’s not guilty, without mentioning scapegoating, nhs cover ups and doctor conspiracies all whilst being respectful to the families who’ve lost their babies I’ll hear it out. If not piss off

 

[DellaC]

There's a woman, I don't know her name but I know a little bit of her story. See, this woman she got pregnant and when she had her scan the sonographer told her that she wasn't expecting 1 baby, she wasn't expecting 2 babies...this woman and her partner had 3 little babies growing safe and warm in her belly. Her pregnancy must've been difficult as they grew, her body distorted and stretched, I imagine she had some pain and also I imagine she had some fears about having 3 newborns. Them fears were unfounded though weren't they? Because 2 of those 3 babies were murdered. One after another. Mum had grown them big and strong, over 4lb! There was nothing to stop them from surviving other than the cunt who was looking after them.

I often think of the Mum. I wonder how she is. I hope she is surviving.

I beg you, you NGers to please just go somewhere else. You're insulting the parents. You might not see it as that but honestly, most of us do. Don't get your shitty kicks on the back of this mums or any of the other mums, dad's and families horror story.

 

[slingo16]

Saying they’ve got a verdict and not announcing it until tomorrow

it’s not golden balls is it lads

“is she a killer? We’ll find out after the break”

 

[elloelloello]

I have missed 20 pages so apologies! I’ve been at my friends funeral and laid his gorgeous soul to rest and the only thing that got me through it without breaking down was the thought that all the parents are about to get some closure.
I know this sounds odd as I’m not an avid commenter but I have had a shitty day, a few Malbecs, all I wanted to do was come on this thread and seek comfort with my tattle friends. I love you all so much. You’re my only go to’s atm and I feel at home with you lot.
Sorry I’m a bit pissed.
Justice is coming, not much longer now guys (i hope)
Thank you for all being you. X

 

[A mega Pint]

Tofino, I just want to say again Thank you so much for the most amazing wiki, it’s so detailed and easy to follow. You have a talent and you have put an enormous amount of work into it.

 

[Hspl4]

All those defending LL never seem to pay any thought to the parents who are suffering, the people that should be, right now, buying school shoes for their kids to go into year 3, be grumbling about lack of school holiday childcare, trying to keep them entertained in the unseasonable rain. That should be noting how fast time flies now the kids are in key stage 2, that should be taking them to swimming lessons and cleaning mud from football boots out the car, taking them to the library for the summer reading challenge now they can read more independently... They were robbed of all of it, and none of these LL supporters seem to ever think to mention the profound and immense loss they have suffered, regardless of the verdict. We are thinking of you all, if any of you ever find your way to this thread. Your babies were here, they matter, they are loved.

 

[Lucyxxxx]

Not one person has even noticed my new PP.

Bastards

 

[gigilouxx]

Oh my days

“I killed them ON PURPOSE because I’m not good enough to care for them”

On purpose: definition “with intent” “deliberately” “a conscious decision”

That’s not the fucking scrawling of a woman in anguish and fear, it’s a realisation that the nice Lucy facade has well and truly slipped and the walls are closing in. I’m not hearing that the stupid cunt has mental health issues or anything other than sheer narcissism.

 

[Stiltoncheese]

This might not word very well so apologies in advance. It sounds better in my head than written down,so hope no-one is upset by it. I am hoping LL gets a guilty verdict for every count obviously so the families get some justice but I don't see this will happen now.

But if some do end up as NG or a hung jury, in my mind, I really hope baby K does have a guilty verdict. Purely because Dr J was hauled over the coals for this one and he held his own and stood firm. He tried to lift the lid to the higher ups and was pushed back and yet he clearly walked in on her doing something. Similar for baby E and poor mum giving evidence about what she saw. It will be crushing if she doesn't get a guilty verdict for her little one.

They all deserve a guilty verdict and it will be crushing for any of the families who dont get a verdict they wish for, but these 2 really stood out to me during the trial.

Like I said, not sure if this words well or sensitively so I'm really sorry if it sounds upsetting or wrong somehow.

 

[gigilouxx]

She went on the fucking stand and lied through her sweaty little teeth what the fuck are the jury even deliberating at this point oh my god

 

[Futtrit]

I call hearsay, your honour.

I don't think Myleene Klass can help!

Please don't be young enough for me to have to explain who she is...

 

[DellaC]

Got a trip to Morrisons for the pasta bar and a hair consultation today. If verdict comes and I'm absent just keep it zipped the lot of you until I get back.

Lucy, I like you, you make me laugh. You're clearly a great mum and adore your family and that's what I always admire in people. You're strong, you're thoughtful and you write the best poems. But please PLEASE PLEASE STOP CALLING IT A PASTA BAR ITS A FUCKING SALAD BAR!

 

[Montreux]

I'm one of the lurker crew! Fucked up my post haha. So trying again. D'oh

Have been following these threads since January but haven't really found anything new to add and to be honest I've enjoyed reading without feeling the pressure of having to contribute anything meaningful or useful to the conversation.

Hopefully this is not too but I gave birth to twins in October just as this trial was starting so I avoided the trial to start with. They were born in pretty much same condition as twins A & B and there was never ever any suggestion that they were too weak to make it home from NICU.

Just wanted to say thank you to you all for standing up for prem babies a stay in NICU doesn't mean that baby was just going to die anyway and it makes me furious when I read anything that would suggest that.

Also want to thank you all for all the laughs along the way. It has made following this trial a lot easier and I will never not laugh at wrong fella Della. Will now see if I can delete or edit my mispost.

Ta xx

 

[bob321]

Just seen this on Facebook, someone actually talking sense….


In my opinion the people who believe LL is innocent fall into 3 categories:

1) Those who find it so upsetting and beyond their comprehension that a nurse could do such a thing that they just refuse to believe it.

2) This who don’t understand how the evidence works and continue to look at each piece of evidence individually and can therefore dispute it… instead of doing as the judge instructed and putting the pieces together like a jigsaw and using common sense and logic whilst looking at it as a whole.

3) The ones who have often had bad experiences (usually within the nhs) and will defend her to the death using conspiracy theories, illogical manipulative wording, made up defences which sometimes even contradict what she said herself.. throw away mantras eg- scapegoat, sub optimal care etc. They happily ignore all the evidence, all her lies and blatant contradictions on the stand and tell anyone
who believes the evidence how much more knowledgable and superior they are.

And I’m not posting this anonymously because I’m not ashamed of my views

 

[MmmB777]

According to Google, Jammy runs a cat cafe? There are two cats on there which fit the profile of Smudge and Tigger… could be very wrong but take a look.

Stop her cats are in witness protection lol lol lol
Name smudge smidge

 

[MmmB777]

If the poster has lurked on these threads prior to joining, they will know that we have discussed the ins and outs of this case for over 10 months. The overall consensus on this thread is guilty. Whilst nobody likes an echo chamber, it can lead to disagreement and admin have threatened to close the group down.

*most of us are here for the families who have had their babies taken from them. It's an emotive subject*

The poster wont find many members on here who agree with their stance...therefore, they may be suited to Facebook.

If the poster has any reason why they believe LL is not guilty, then they are free to share their opinions but it won't be taken kindly by those of us who believe she's a murdering c*nt.

Yep all of this. Also, when you’ve been here for 10 months, it’s a little hard to still hear things like “just don’t want to believe it” etc because, as valid as that is, it doesn’t reflect just how much analysis has gone into everything by people that have been here picking the whole thing apart. Also, really horrific things have happened since the beginning of time. How did the holocaust happen? How do people kill their own kids? How do people torture? There are people capable of total cruelty. In fact, startlingly similar cases have happened in the UK in our recent history. The only difference here is these are premature babies and I think that is where people are doing the victims a total disservice. If they had been on a children’s ward, been months old like some Allitt’s victims, would people feel the same? Her defence said they were poorly too. Were they all at death’s door?
Shipman’s victims were treated the same way, I remember it all being treated like a joke. They were old. They were going to die anyway. Of course old people die. He was a dedicated doctor according to a lot of people and one of his biggest supporters found out Shipman killed both his parents
I’m sure things will be a lot clearer for people when all the details come out.

 

[MmmB777]

If there’s no evidence what are the jury talking about for 16 days? The shitty pipes?