Ahhh the ghislane maxwell defense, didn’t she refuse to give evidence cause she thought the prosecution hadn’t made a strong enough case against her… Turned out well for her didn’t it…Apparently ‘they don’t need to’
Babs “Loves her Babies” Smith on Facebook who’s education includes “School of hard knocks” and “university of life” knows all about the British justice system right. More than barristers practising for decades. End of (sic)
And a lot of the evidence against her was 'circumstantial', too. But compelling and followed a pattern.
I’ve been on both sides ie been a prosecution witness and done jury service and in both situations I just found the defense laughable like are you for real? It is hypocritical and the fact they can do the job with a straight face is pretty remarkable, I’m by no means gifted in my intelligence and I’d like to think that the jury can see through this too.
I don't for one second believe I'd be able to do that job, and at the end of the day he is simply doing his job.. But the things he's saying he's just throwing tit in the wind imo and expecting it not to slap bang wollop in he's face. He's totally acting asif prosecution have NOTHING??? honey, you had a plumber.
Is that 'Full time Mummy' Babs?!
I am going to disagree here as I don't believe that's true. He can seek advice (and IMO from reading what he is saying in closing, I think he has done) he does not have to use them as expert witnesses in oral or written evidence.
But by those standards that you’ve just explained that means he can invent things randomly, but claim he’s been informed by an “expert” but then not produce this for anyone else to confirm/challenge. Surely that isn’t what happens during the justice system?
If he has taken advice from someone, he can do that and not call them. The prosecution can (and undoubtedly have) do the same.
also l need some baby advice so added a spoiler
I’m aware the prosecution do the unused material, as you say, it’s right that the defendant gets all the information to try avoid cherry picking. Hence why we then end up with agreed evidence.
This is correct. Also the expert witnesses like Dr Evans and Dr Bohin were hired by the police and therefore independent of prosecution or defence - they have a duty to the court. So even though we call them prosecution witnesses, they're really witnesses of the court. They need to pass the threshold of impartiality and credibility to be allowed as expert witnesses. If BM had decided to bring on a medical expert, then they would have been defence witnesses however.
Just got my other half up to speed with the trial as he wasn't following and he says she is totally guilty and he can't comprehend why she's done it from a guys view she's a cuckoo he saidhas any of you lovely tattlers that have ever breastfed experienced a baby with reflux? I think mini Caledonian has reflux. He's really sicky after a feed and even after bringing wind up he's screaming unless he's vertical. Either that or my milk is drying up as that happened with wee Caledonian albeit 7 months in and not at 5wks in
Oh bless him, what a shame. It sounds like it may well be, your health visitor would be able to perhaps trial some omeprazole? I’m still breastfeeding my 8 month old now and his was very mild so because he wasn’t bothered by it and still putting on weight we didn’t do anything and he’s fine now. A mum at our baby group however, her baby was similar to what you’ve described and was given omeprazole. Hopefully it won’t be your milk supply dipping, that in itself is actually rare apparently. The “Breastfeeding Support Scotland” group on Facebook is very good for advice.
I said to my oh I think he's got lighter even though he's definetly longer he doesn't feel heavier. I'll give them a look as I want to breastfeed as long as I can as its easier and cheaper to do so lola chocolate teapot would be mee use than my health visitor shes been out once since we got put in her care and she weighed him at 10 days then she phoned yesterday to say that it's her time off til the middle of July and I'll get another hv in the meantime
Failing that the GP, but the group is definitely a wealth of info too, even just searching past posts. Let us know how you get on 
I hope the new one is better
I've asked to join the group and I'm going to speak to the infant feeding team lady who deals with me and is so much better than the hv. She actually helps me so I'll see what she thinks tooYou wouldn't know these experts, they go to a different schoolThis week is hard going man. But on the other hand he hasn’t produced anything that would make me question guilt at all. One thing that has been frustrating, (but is also my own fault for still following the fb groups) is people claiming that they’ve known all along that BM has had experts advising him in the background and how clear that is now
it’s the same people that have denied LL’s involvement all along, and for some reason it’s what gets my back up the most, I wasn’t
closed off at thread 1 that she was guilty, i obvs am now but these people, I’m beginning to think they’re just trolling for the sake of it. Anyway do people think this is a thing? If he had experts who it is claimed, have even admitted they’re working on the case, why wouldn’t he bring them out as witnesses?View attachment 2269752View attachment 2269753
