Lucy Letby Case #41

[PositivelyVonnegutesque]

This case has upset me more than I'd anticipated. My son's 7 years old and it hasn't left me that these parents have literally been robbed of 7 year old children. All those beautiful children with unique personalities, hopes and dreams for the future - all stolen by that demon.

I keep following this case because I know I am incredibly lucky and grateful to have my boy - he's a blessing on my life that I will never, ever take for granted.

I remember when he was born, I was so afraid I would do something wrong - he seemed so little. I would stay awake all night because he had colic and he was so uncomfortable in his bassinet, so I held him in my arms where he seemed more comfortable. I will never forgot that overwhelming, instinctual need to protect him. I hope LL never sees the light of day again for what she has done.

 

[yellowmellow]

I can feel my blood pressure rising.

He is just doing his job, he is just doing his job, he is just doing his job, he is just doing his job... Breatheeeeeeeee!

 

[MavisBeacon]

Someone stop this man. Mrs Gill, if you are reading this right now then I beg you cut off your husbands internet access.
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He has been absolutely disgusting and insufferable all day, I can’t believe what I am reading. At least we can safely say that if she gets a whole life order, there’s absolutely zero chance of her ever getting it overturned if he is going to be the one doing her appeal.

What the Fuck is wrong with this guy????

I've been reading along for a while but this finally made me comment. Just Fuck the fucking Fuck off. And when you get there, Fuck off some more.

 

[AllieBee]

I bet this bit is really heavy in court with him using their names.

Edit - bloody copy & paste messed up!


Mr Johnson lists the common events for the babies in this indictment by categorisation.

By ones who collapsed despite having good air entry but saturations were dropping: Child A, C, D, G, H [second event], I [third event and fourth event], M, O [twice], P.

By bleeds and/or bleeding in throat: Child C, E, G, H, N, plus 'false note by Letby' in K.

Unusual discolouration: Child A, B, D, E, I, M, O, H.

Suffered life-threatening collapses out of nowhere then recovered very quickly: Child B, D, H [both collapses], I [events one to three], M, N, O, P.

Children who collapsed when designated nurse left or leaving the room: Child C, D, G [first event], I [second event and fourth event], K, N [first event], P [third collapse - when doctors were out of the room], Q [slight variation - when Letby got herself out of the room].

Premature babies screaming/crying at time of collapse: Child E, I, N.

Children who collapsed shortly after being visited by their parents: Child B, H, I [first event], M, N, O, P.

Children who recovered quickly when taken to other hospitals: Child H, I [after 3rd collapse], N, Q.

Mr Johnson says Child K's tube never moved after being transferred out of the Countess.

When Letby participated in inappropriate post-death behaviours: Child C, I, O.

Poinsoned by insulin: F, L.

Mr Johnson says if Letby had not sabotaged seven babies, they would all have gone home. The other 10 babies, Letby attempted to murder.

This is awful seeing it all laid out like that, neatly wrapped together with a bow on top. There can be no doubt at all that she's an evil, fucking, guilty murderer.
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Someone stop this man. Mrs Gill, if you are reading this right now then I beg you cut off your husbands internet access.
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He has been absolutely disgusting and insufferable all day, I can’t believe what I am reading. At least we can safely say that if she gets a whole life order, there’s absolutely zero chance of her ever getting it overturned if he is going to be the one doing her appeal.

That is appalling. What a cruel insensitive and heartless man. No we don't euthanise babies in the UK, stopping intervention in the case of futility is completely different to murdering previously stable babies. What a bastard

 

[rararala]

That concludes the prosecution's closing speech.

Does anyone else just feel like they're going to burst into tears?
I just hope the jury is made of of sensible people with the ability to think logically and critically and see her for what she is.

That concludes the prosecution's closing speech.

Does anyone else just feel like they're going to burst into tears?
I just hope the jury is made of of sensible people with the ability to think logically and critically and see her for what she is.

Yes completely. Just absolutely balled my eyes out. My partner said I don’t understand you’ve been reading about this for months, are you sad or happy now it’s ending or? And I really can’t explain it, I’m so overcome with emotion,perhaps it’s seeing the final parts of the closing speech, all the links so cleverly put together, BNE’s final sentence, fully thinking about what these poor babies went through and their parents having to sit through it, our 9month amazing chats on here, even seeing people saying they’ve voted guilty for the first time, it’s just all so overwhelming, my brain finally couldnt take anymore. Ultimately it seems so so clear that’s she’s guilty and whilst no one truly wins in this situation BNE and his team have done such an amazing job to get justice…I really do think he will.

 

[IGiveUp22]

I’m interested to hear BM’s closing statement but I know it’s going to make me angry. Part of me feels like I shouldn’t bother, BNE’s closing statement has actually made me feel ill at times and I don’t know how anyone could possibly think she is innocent. I know BM has a job to do, but it will be tough to listen to what he says after hearing it all so clearly laid out from BNE. He’s done a wonderful job in his closing, really hammered home on certain bits and also tied/linked them all together.

I have faith the jury won’t be swayed by BM but I reckon his closing will be as good as it gets as he is a talented guy

 

[DellaC]

Right motherfeckers, thank you for sharing your lovely stories. You've warmed my cockles
@raspberryjuice I'm completely sorry for your loss, I know the joy you will have felt in those 7 months and I wish it could've lasted forever, just like the love you hold for him will

@gimmethattea yeah that was our experience too, it gets better once they get to school. If ever I can help/advise give me a shout

Won't be following much today...got an appointment (camera crew going up my chuff )so have waxed, femfreshed and put on a very beautiful vajazzle...hope my sonographer appreciates the effort!

Please don't get frustrated with BM....he's a ginger just like you lot and he has feelings too! (Probably)

Also did @OldBlondie just say she's been team guilty since the beginning? I'm shook, absolutely shook....she kept that to herself

Toodle pip x

 

[gigilouxx]

Orrr uno he might have a point there. I remember getting told off at work then writing down how I’d killed people on purpose because I wasn’t good enough. Madness BM

 

[Wellthisisinteresting]

The only unsure I have is if, she should receive a stomach full of air, ruptured liver or a sharp object rammed down her throat first

Tough decision

 

[gigilouxx]

That’s what gets me as well badly
They’ve been robbed of it all, the first smiles, the first steps, first word, first day at school, first little drawing they come home with for you, reading their school books
I remember having my eldest, I was only 16 and I was so so anxious over everything, I used to be up all night every night making sure she was breathing and not too hot or too cold, not left crying for too long it sent my head round the bend.
The fact someone could physically hurt something so small and damn harmless is horrific and the fact she’s plead not guilty, had her big performance on the stand and chose a plumber as her only bloodclart defence just says it all, this is her last chance to relive it all. Evil sick bastard

 

[Emmalouisa73]

I’m not a violent person but after reading child I I would like some time alone in a room with this evil sadistic witch That baby like the others was predicted a good outcome, on her way to go home and this thing relentlessly hurt her and eventually killed her.

 

[gigilouxx]

Loool fuck off Ben. I don’t Google how to put a cannabis grow in my spare room but I know full well how to do it. Stupid baldy

 

[DellaC]

I’m genuinely curious to hear the viewpoints of whoever voted still unsure or not guilty, what is it that creates doubt for you? Not to argue, or try to change your mind but I wonder if those on the jury might have issues with the same things…

They won't answer. We've asked many times. They're just trolling

If you want to look inside the mind of someone who believes she's innocent pop over to Facebook. But be warned you'll want to bleach your brain afterwards

 

[EffingDust]

I feel like I’ve not done a proper tattler feedback in a while so I’ll try and do one tonight, today was so interesting… I’m usually to drained but I’ll do one tonight

I was at court today too, I’ll write mine up in a min, only just back after a 5 hr drive 🫡

 

[gigilouxx]

So back in the day when I was a skint 16 year old single mum and I used to scan half my shopping and put the rest under the pram I didn’t actually do it because I didn’t Google it beforehand crime revoked, sins washed away

 

[pixieroo]

I think he's done an excellent job throughout and especially in the closing speech, highlighted by listing the similarities which will have felt really heavy in court I'm sure, and by the 30second count the other day.

Utterly horrific to read, and more so to hear and see I'm sure, but he's (and his team, of course) done excellently in making a clear case out of something so complex at times, and done so sensitively as possible.

 

[F1Grid]

He says "you saw the real person" in her evidence and cross-examination

The one who lied about easily disproved shit like being hauled out of bed by police and taken to the station in her nightie?

I’m sure that’ll help her Ben…

 

[Windowtothewall]

Ok this guy is making my blood absolutely boil. He’s a disgrace. @Windowtothewall did you report him in the end? X

I sent the RSS an email today with screenshots of all the bollocks he's been speaking on Twitter - along with tweets where's he's linked the RSS article in the same conspiracy theory conversations. Doesn't look good for them to be connected to this batshittery. Was debating it yesterday and if he had calmed down I wouldn't have. The bit about euthanasia though made me so angry. He's deranged. Only comfort I take is that he is crowdsourcing for a virologist on Twitter of all places, which means no one respectable has spoken to him. If you need to go via Twitter to find experts, you're a joke, mate.

Will update if i get a response. I suspect they will just quietly wash their hands off him, and never publish a paper of his again.

 

[docmum]

Just put my darling six year old to bed ready to wake up 7 always find birthday eves a little tricky. Time goes so fast. Just so grateful and extra sad tonight for all the babies that should be here as happy little children. Especially thinking of O&P that should be just like my little boy right now this case has been something else. Thank god you were all here too. I don’t think I’ll follow much at all tomorrow. Don’t think I can stomach hearing any nonsense after what BNE delivered this week. X

have a wonderful family day, happiest of birthdays to the nearly 7 year old. We will miss you tomorrow but I know how much it will upset you with any attempts to justify or manipulate evidence in her favour. Plus like you say, birthday eves are a poignant, tricky time - end of a chapter, beginning of an exciting new one, nostalgia, and that overwhelming love.
Tomorrow is about putting yourself first so that you can put the birthday boy first for his special day. Big love
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Since we’re having a bit of an emotional thread moment, I thought I would post the final chapter from the book I finished at the weekend. The excerpt made me think of this thread especially at this current time.
the book is a fiction book called ‘anxious people’ by Fredrik Backman. The quote I have taken doesn’t contain spoilers re the story but I’ll put behind a spoiler in case anyone is reading or wanted to read it.

Spoiler

 

[yellowmellow]

Out of interest - If you were the parents, would you go to the press after this?

I would. I would be shouting my baby's name from the rooftops and showing his or her face to everyone to show people who it was this monster was harming. Maybe some of the absolute c**ts on Facebook and Twitter would shut the fuck up a bit when faced with an actual face and a name of who she wiped off the earth/attempted to wipe off the earth. Tiny human beings. People's sons and daughters.