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She’s said she likes an easy and light workload but begs to go in the room with the more poorly babies and asks for a “dying baby” to get over a patient passing away. She’s not a good liar at all is she smh
It's not impossible that people were working out of their scope of competence, but it begs the question as to why Lucy or anyone else who was suitably qualified and would understand the risks of this wouldn't say anything. She messaged about low staffing and general staffing issues and I suspect most who have worked in the NHS wouldn't find that overly unbelievable (I have only worked in an NHS hospital as a military HCP mind so a bit different); for me it doesn't explain away all of the collapses and deaths even if it might have had an impact on some or allow an environment that perhaps didn't catch things that a fully staffed and well run unit would.
What band 4s are they referring to though, I know NAs were spoken about in 2015 but I didn't think they were actually introduced until 2017ish?
She strikes me as a datix queen , we all have one person on a ward who writes the most pathetic reports for human errors that aren't even massive things.
Would be interesting to see if she did datix reports for other smaller things , would show glaringly her omitting this is questionable.
Would be interesting to see if she did datix reports for other smaller things , would show glaringly her omitting this is questionable.
See I thought she was a 'Pimm's on the lawn' type of girl, pretending she's all posh and that. Under her murdering wolf in sheep's clothing image
Are assistant practitioners band 4?
I think they are. Or it might have changed now
I've taken photos of cards before but it's usually because I've then sent it to my mum or something to show her! For example, my boss gives me a Christmas card with a bonus in it and usually writes something nice in it about my hard work etc and I've sent a picture of it to my mum who lives hours away and is never going to see the actual card (to make her proud hahaha). I don't think I've ever taken a photo of a card I've given to anyone. Was it her way of remembering names and dates so she could look them up on facebook, maybe?
I find this exchange very odd. It's like he's talking to a little girl.
I've never followed a murder case so I don't know what I expected from BM and LL but it wasn't this nonsense.
What would be an example of a band 4 nurse? My son has had a stoma since birth I am really confused what all the fuss is about with that one, just change the bag
on one hand she pretends she is the most qualified nurse but now she can’t manage a stoma?
on one hand she pretends she is the most qualified nurse but now she can’t manage a stoma?
Nursing associates are band 4. Registered nurses start at band 5 (as an aside, how weird is it that NHS staff often refer to themselves and others as their pay grade?!)What would be an example of a band 4 nurse? My son has had a stoma since birth I am really confused what all the fuss is about with that one, just change the bag
Subspecialised nurses often get a bit precious about things they don’t deal with. I can see her being hesitant about the stoma to be fair to her.
If it helps, those of us who review these pick up on 'that nurse' very quickly and mostly just shut the report and ignore it!
Sorry if this has been discussed before, I didn't join the threads until quite late. On Websleuths yesterday, for about 30 seconds before it was pulled, there was a link to the report on the unit. It was very interesting reading. Has anybody else seen it? Without wanting to break any rules about court etc, it's abundantly clear that there were huge issues with this unit and regardless of LL and what she's done, it should have been downgraded anyway...
Has it been raised back up to its previous status yet?
She’s so up herself.
Do you have a link to this?If it helps, those of us who review these pick up on 'that nurse' very quickly and mostly just shut the report and ignore it!
Sorry if this has been discussed before, I didn't join the threads until quite late. On Websleuths yesterday, for about 30 seconds before it was pulled, there was a link to the report on the unit. It was very interesting reading. Has anybody else seen it? Without wanting to break any rules about court etc, it's abundantly clear that there were huge issues with this unit and regardless of LL and what she's done, it should have been downgraded anyway...
Has it been raised back up to its previous status yet?
i can see why she would be apprehensive but I don’t think it’s worth a song and dance. The stoma situation wouldn’t have needed much care if any off the nurses once pain was managed. I still get the impression she was up her own a
Re: the pay grade, it's a hierarchy thing. I've never known anything more insidious in a workplace than the obsession with NHS banding. It makes it very difficult to forge meaningful professional relationships. It's one of the things causing huge damage to the NHS as a whole, IMO.
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No, like I said the post was pulled down immediately. It was a pdf though, so it's in my downloads. No idea if I can/should share it further in case I'm in contempt of court or something though!
I’m medical so thankfully our hierarchy is more useful to actually understand someone’s role! Asking whether a reg is ST7 or ST3 tells me lot because I know how close they are to consultancy.
Meanwhile your band 5 nurse could have been there 40 years or 40 days
do you mean the CQC report?If it helps, those of us who review these pick up on 'that nurse' very quickly and mostly just shut the report and ignore it!
Sorry if this has been discussed before, I didn't join the threads until quite late. On Websleuths yesterday, for about 30 seconds before it was pulled, there was a link to the report on the unit. It was very interesting reading. Has anybody else seen it? Without wanting to break any rules about court etc, it's abundantly clear that there were huge issues with this unit and regardless of LL and what she's done, it should have been downgraded anyway...
Has it been raised back up to its previous status yet?
Dr Jayaram joining everyone else under the bus 
ok Lucy
ok LucyNo. It's the external review of the unit, which was published in November 2016.
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