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I have seriously missed something with the suction thing here 🥹 anyone care to elaborateOh thank god. It has to be the cats then surely. But why is Noname a “Tiny Boy”poor bloke. Maybe everything is tiny next to the suction mega dildo.
Does he say something about “tiny boy” at some point. Holding a tiny baby. Hmm. Bit of a reach. Very bleeping odd all of it tbh. I’m not over her reading choice!
can you post a link if it's allowed? did lucy buy this house?
She went to a hen party with a suction willy, you know the ones you buy from Ann Summers and you lick the end and bang it on the bath, you can get them in all shapes and sizes, some are shaped like corn on the cobs, others shaped like jumbo jets. They're about 18.99.I have seriously missed something with the suction thing here 🥹 anyone care to elaborate
Not that I'm an expert you see
It’s probably going to sound similar to Facebook - she was searching many many families not just the ones she’s accused of harming. So it doesn’t prove anything.
She had paperwork for many babies, not just the ones she’s accused of harming. So they can’t be ‘trophies’ and doesn’t prove anything (I don’t think prosecution can say it’s possible she harmed other babies too, even if they think she did as it’s not on the indictment).
It’s possible they are all trophies
or she purposely took as many as she could home regardless, to help cover her tracks, or maybe she used them to help plan her attacks (to learn windows of opportunity or weaknesses).I can’t think of any innocent explanation for anyone having this volume of patient paperwork they are absolutely not meant to have unless it’s for whistleblowing - but where is the whistleblowing evidence in what they found? It would be a weak defence as so far there is no evidence of hospital errors and coverups that she was trying to gather.
She must have collected all the information on an ongoing basis
She must have collected the information on an ongoing basis and not all at once to do a timeline because notes would go back to Medical Records dept after discharge and wouldn't be available a year later so all the information must have been collected when the babies were on the NNU. That is how it works in my Trust.
Yes this is what I mean. Why would she be collecting / keeping hold of information in June 2015. An entire year before she was taken off the unit. Why would she think she may need it one day? There doesn’t seem to be any innocent explanation for this. I can’t wait to hear what her response is because I’m sure they would ask her about it in later police interviews. Taking it home forgetfully is just blown out of the water today due to the sheer volume she kept.
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This is all the defence had to say about the paperwork found in the house search during their opening statement
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Of course this basic witch has fairy lights around her bed. Of course.
Ok wow. I have spent hours catching up as I took a little Easter break… and then today also happened so!
@Souffle perhaps they’re showing the room for now because she was arrested 2 years after she first stopped working there and yet she still has the 2016 diary in her bedroom draws, she still is carting around handover notes in a not recently unused handbag. And she presumably, knows there’s a criminal investigation, she just hadn’t been arrested at that point.
I find it so bizarre that the handover notes in the shredder box were found (I think, going by the daily mail) at her parents house when they were searched and she was re arrested 3 months later- like- why are they still in your possession if yoI’ve been arrested for murder?! Also, they either weren’t found during the first search and moved there or she had already moved them there (perhaps during her house buying move)? I think someone earlier made that point.
I reckon that at some point when she moved roles to risk and whotsit, someone had a quiet word with Dr.Noname. But I guess really that could have been any time between June 2016 and April 2018?
Tigger and smudge- names of their future cats? Their plans for where to move to/tv show to watch? Maybe he came clean about having forwarded her that email, hence the betrayal?My first thought catching up on the Chester live today though was that they were her first victims/experiments from childhood!
I wonder what the significance of the bin bag in the garage was as it seemed to have been discovered in a later search. It doesn’t seem to be ‘rubbish’ as such- that’s a kept bin bag (maybe from her house buying move) so written whilst she was living in drs accommodation?
All of it- bonkers.
My personal conjecture on the why was that she saw in the babies a vulnerability she couldn’t tolerate in herself. Maybe (unhelpful speculation warning) her mother was really pragmatic and not very good with LLs big emotions- maybe the needle wick lecture was more about her fainting and being too sensitive. I should say that my ruminations might change as more evidence comes out.
@Souffle perhaps they’re showing the room for now because she was arrested 2 years after she first stopped working there and yet she still has the 2016 diary in her bedroom draws, she still is carting around handover notes in a not recently unused handbag. And she presumably, knows there’s a criminal investigation, she just hadn’t been arrested at that point.
I find it so bizarre that the handover notes in the shredder box were found (I think, going by the daily mail) at her parents house when they were searched and she was re arrested 3 months later- like- why are they still in your possession if yoI’ve been arrested for murder?! Also, they either weren’t found during the first search and moved there or she had already moved them there (perhaps during her house buying move)? I think someone earlier made that point.
I reckon that at some point when she moved roles to risk and whotsit, someone had a quiet word with Dr.Noname. But I guess really that could have been any time between June 2016 and April 2018?
Tigger and smudge- names of their future cats? Their plans for where to move to/tv show to watch? Maybe he came clean about having forwarded her that email, hence the betrayal?My first thought catching up on the Chester live today though was that they were her first victims/experiments from childhood!
I wonder what the significance of the bin bag in the garage was as it seemed to have been discovered in a later search. It doesn’t seem to be ‘rubbish’ as such- that’s a kept bin bag (maybe from her house buying move) so written whilst she was living in drs accommodation?
All of it- bonkers.
My personal conjecture on the why was that she saw in the babies a vulnerability she couldn’t tolerate in herself. Maybe (unhelpful speculation warning) her mother was really pragmatic and not very good with LLs big emotions- maybe the needle wick lecture was more about her fainting and being too sensitive. I should say that my ruminations might change as more evidence comes out.
Bloody hell Tiny Boy
and Bergerac
even Tigger and Smudge would be an improvement on that 
It’s all a bit childish. Cuddly toys, fairy lights, doodles, cartoon diaries. I mean even the chomp is weird to me tbh but I 100% know that’s probably because I hate everything about her
oh god there’s the pic of her with the freddo too isn’t there. Have a bleeping Lindor and grow up you beige twit.
bleeping hell, just caught up.
I wonder if the prosecution is building up to a police interview with Choc Doc. LL seems to be saying she's trusted him with everything, she's obsessed with the guy if her notes are anything to go by, he's been found to have leaked information to her. They're going to have had to interview him, surely. I wonder if he's the star witness in this case.
Writing notes to the dead triplets, a bag containing handover sheets and official notes mainly for the babies she's killed, again writing notes that she's killed them, keeping that green post it note in a diary... she's absolutely done for.
I wonder if the prosecution is building up to a police interview with Choc Doc. LL seems to be saying she's trusted him with everything, she's obsessed with the guy if her notes are anything to go by, he's been found to have leaked information to her. They're going to have had to interview him, surely. I wonder if he's the star witness in this case.
Writing notes to the dead triplets, a bag containing handover sheets and official notes mainly for the babies she's killed, again writing notes that she's killed them, keeping that green post it note in a diary... she's absolutely done for.
Omg the shredded bank statements…She went to a hen party with a suction willy, you know the ones you buy from Ann Summers and you lick the end and bang it on the bath, you can get them in all shapes and sizes, some are shaped like corn on the cobs, others shaped like jumbo jets. They're about 18.99.
Not that I'm an expert you see
Ann Summers….. £18.99
Matalan…………… £23
Ann Summers….. £18.99
The Range………..£12.60
Ann Summers……..£18.99
Don't forget £15 for a carbonara from Frankie and Benny's
Hey there's nothing wrong with a chomp or freddo every now and againBloody hell Tiny Boy
It’s all a bit childish. Cuddly toys, fairy lights, doodles, cartoon diaries. I mean even the chomp is weird to me tbh but I 100% know that’s probably because I hate everything about her
Oh sure. On Boxing Day from your selection box when you’re six.Hey there's nothing wrong with a chomp or freddo every now and again
Or a chomp on a FreddoHey there's nothing wrong with a chomp or freddo every now and again
#tinyboy
So she had a bag of handwritten notes and official documents for the babies that she stored in an Ibiza bag. Meaning she gathered and kept these items AFTER she had been taken off the unit. If she kept these documents by mistake she would’ve binned them or taken them into work to shred. This is damning. Can just see her sorting through her trophies in that weird beige house, chilling.
edit- never mind she has a shredder in her Spare room
Today has been mind blowing. Wonder what we will get tomorrow
This is the funniest insult I have read on here for a while
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Agreed with everyone here saying the presence of the 236 handover notes don't magically erase the presence of the 21 related to the accusations against her or render their presence benign. As others have pointed out, maybe she did harm all 257 babies. Or it could be possible she brought all the handover notes home to study them & choose who her next victim would be. Alternatively, she brought them all home to isolate (and hide evidence) of the ones she's accused of harming, and was intending to return the remaining 236, but the police turned up at her door before she could do that. BM is trying to say the presence of 236 (and FB searches of parents/babies other than those harmed/murdered) shows they're benign. But there are other logical possibilities. Indeed, coupled with the fact that they should never have left hospital in the first place (and she should never have done FB searches on her patients' families) along with all the other weirdo hand-written notes, confession post-it note, medically inexplicable, sudden collapses, insulin poisoning, and the tome of witness and consultant testimonies, all point to the fact that there's possibly a more sinister reason for the notes found in her house (and those stashed away at her parents' house).
Are general public allowed to make notes in court with good old fashioned pen and paper?
Don’t get excited as I definitely can’t make it to court this week but I’m trying to plan a visit in my head for sometime in the next week or two. Ideally would love to jot down anything interesting as I would forget half of it but not sure if it’s allowed.
Don’t get excited as I definitely can’t make it to court this week but I’m trying to plan a visit in my head for sometime in the next week or two. Ideally would love to jot down anything interesting as I would forget half of it but not sure if it’s allowed.
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