Lucy Letby Case #18

[candyland_]

I think it will be heartbreaking for the parents that had twins/triplets to watch them growing up knowing how different things should have been.

I know it’s nowhere near the same but my daughter was a twin pregnancy but I lost one very early on and I still have moments 13 years later when I look at her as an only child and think there should have been another sibling beside you.

 

[Tofino]

Harder i'm sure. What gets me with the multiple babies, like the triplets, they probably had 3 car seats and a triple pram. Imagine pushing a baby in a triple pram knowing it should have been full.

I think it’s all incredibly hard though. Those with singles would end up not pushing a pram at all

 

[LittleMy]

Following cases like this and the likes of Star and Arthur really makes me want to hug my children tighter. It’s any decent parent’s worst nightmare, anything happening to their babies.

 

[Haveyouanywool]

Have we got a live reporting link?

DanO’donaghue is on Twitter.

 

[housebythesea]

I wonder what it's like for the parents of the twins/triplets where only one baby has lived on birthdays/Christmas etc? Does having the other baby make it better or harder?

This is the situation a friend of mine was in - she lost one of her twins to cot death when she was about six months old. I mean it was unimaginably awful, especially as they then worried even more about the surviving twin, who was fitted with all kinds of monitoring equipment, alarms etc. The first couple of years were just terrible, but then they were determined that they didn't communicate that sadness and grief to her twin. I remember my friend saying something like "It's our sorrow to bear, not hers" and she was determined that her birthdays and special occasions would not be marred by sadness for a sister of whom she had no memory. I really admired her for that, because it must have been bloody difficult at times

 

[Haveyouanywool]

It’s a shame that Baby F wasn’t transported to the other hospital as he would have avoided the trauma.
He was so lucky to survive unscathed.

 

[Daisydunn15]

This is the situation a friend of mine was in - she lost one of her twins to cot death when she was about six months old. I mean it was unimaginably awful, especially as they then worried even more about the surviving twin, who was fitted with all kinds of monitoring equipment, alarms etc. The first couple of years were just terrible, but then they were determined that they didn't communicate that sadness and grief to her twin. I remember my friend saying something like "It's our sorrow to bear, not hers" and she was determined that her birthdays and special occasions would not be marred by sadness for a sister of whom she had no memory. I really admired her for that, because it must have been bloody difficult at times

God that's awful, it's right at the age where the risk is meant to significantly drop but I've heard a few stories of cot death at 6 months. Mine is 5m and it makes me feel sick

 

[Rippedjeanmaybe]

God that's awful, it's right at the age where the risk is meant to significantly drop but I've heard a few stories of cot death at 6 months. Mine is 5m and it makes me feel sick

There’s someone on Insta who lost a baby to cot death at 9 months, which was obviously a huge & devastating shock for them.

Just can’t even begin to imagine the pain that these parents must feel.

This case has been going on so long as well, it must be awful to constantly have this hanging over them. I hope justice is done for them.

 

[housebythesea]

God that's awful, it's right at the age where the risk is meant to significantly drop but I've heard a few stories of cot death at 6 months. Mine is 5m and it makes me feel sick

I should say this was a long time ago - 35 years ago to be exact - and I think we know a lot more now about SIDS than we did then, especially with things like the safe sleep campaigns. The rate is lower now than it has ever been xx

 

[coffeeandwine]

I don't have children of my own but I am an auntie and I just can't ever imagine inflicting pain and suffering on a little baby. When I first held my nephew, all I wanted was for him to be loved, happy and safe. He's still only a little baby and I've found myself having to really try hard not to get emotional and have a knee jerk reaction to any of the LL news: it makes me so angry to think of anyone hurting someone so vulnerable.

 

[OldBlondie]

While there’s not much coverage today, and while waiting for podcast to come out, I’d suggest in the mean time if anyone that has time, has a read of this article about BA that was posted on fri. I’ve only got round to reading to just now, and the similarities are quite shocking tbh:

Birmingham nurse recalls working with 'Angel Of Death' child killer Beverley Allitt

The Birmingham nurse who worked alongside ‘Angel of Death’ Beverley Allitt – Britain’s most prolific hospital killer – today opens her heart to the Sunday Mercury.

www.birminghammail.co.uk

 

[Tofino]

I’ve updated the wiki with all of last weeks reporting. Unfortunately can’t fit all of the child F reporting on same page as child E so we now have a sixth page.

Lucy Letby Case contains live reporting links, opening statements for both prosecution and defence including opening statements for each child.

Lucy Letby Case 2 page contains evidence heard for Child A & B (twins)

Lucy Letby Case 3 page contains evidence heard for Child C

Lucy Letby Case 4 page contains evidence heard for Child D.

Lucy Letby Case 5 page contains evidence heard for Child E (twin).

Lucy Letby Case 6 page contains evidence heard for Child F (twin).

 

[riddleme89]

I’ve updated the wiki with all of last weeks reporting. Unfortunately can’t fit all of the child F reporting on same page as child E so we now have a sixth page.

Lucy Letby Case contains live reporting links, opening statements for both prosecution and defence including opening statements for each child.

Lucy Letby Case 2 page contains evidence heard for Child A & B (twins)

Lucy Letby Case 3 page contains evidence heard for Child C

Lucy Letby Case 4 page contains evidence heard for Child D.

Lucy Letby Case 5 page contains evidence heard for Child E (twin).

Lucy Letby Case 6 page contains evidence heard for Child F (twin).

Thank you that’s a good help I often get mixed up and confused . I will have a read now

So if her defence admitted baby F was poisoned then how will they explain how because in the opening statement her defence say they dont think the nurses and doctors did anything other than the best .

 

[PeninsulaAndOriental]

hey Tofino - could you link me to the wiki please? I’d be so interested to read it

thanks

I’ve updated the wiki with all of last weeks reporting. Unfortunately can’t fit all of the child F reporting on same page as child E so we now have a sixth page.

Lucy Letby Case contains live reporting links, opening statements for both prosecution and defence including opening statements for each child.

Lucy Letby Case 2 page contains evidence heard for Child A & B (twins)

Lucy Letby Case 3 page contains evidence heard for Child C

Lucy Letby Case 4 page contains evidence heard for Child D.

Lucy Letby Case 5 page contains evidence heard for Child E (twin).

Lucy Letby Case 6 page contains evidence heard for Child F (twin).

 

[riddleme89]

hey Tofino - could you link me to the wiki please? I’d be so interested to read it

thanks

It’s at the top of the thread in pink xx

 

[Tofino]

Yes top pink button or this link here. The other wiki pages are all linked on every wiki page

Lucy Letby Case Wiki

This wiki is about the trial of Nurse Lucy Letby who was charged with the murder and attempted murder of 17 babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital, between June 2015 and June 2016. There are 22 charges in total, 7 murder and 15 attempted murder. Lucy pleaded not guilty to all charges and...

tattle.life

Just seen this. We are missing sooooo much information but glad the jury are getting it.

 

[Haveyouanywool]

Yes top pink button or this link here. The other wiki pages are all linked on every wiki page

Lucy Letby Case Wiki

This wiki is about the trial of Nurse Lucy Letby who was charged with the murder and attempted murder of 17 babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital, between June 2015 and June 2016. There are 22 charges in total, 7 murder and 15 attempted murder. Lucy pleaded not guilty to all charges and...

tattle.life

Just seen this. We are missing sooooo much information but glad the jury are getting it.

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Oh interesting, hope Mark is back tomorrow. The jury are certainly getting an education!

 

[riddleme89]

Yes top pink button or this link here. The other wiki pages are all linked on every wiki page

Lucy Letby Case Wiki

This wiki is about the trial of Nurse Lucy Letby who was charged with the murder and attempted murder of 17 babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital, between June 2015 and June 2016. There are 22 charges in total, 7 murder and 15 attempted murder. Lucy pleaded not guilty to all charges and...

tattle.life

Just seen this. We are missing sooooo much information but glad the jury are getting it.

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Does this mean good evidence will be given tomorrow ? I hope the Chester do a live update tomorrow x

 

[Tofino]

Oh interesting, hope Mark is back tomorrow. The jury are certainly getting an education!

I wonder if they are getting the staff who prepared the bags to testify. As I know even on this thread it’s been mentioned maybe contamination from where they were made up (and I know it’s been explained by others it’s not possible) so they must want to make that clear to jury.

 

[IGiveUp22]

I’m just glad the jury are getting the fuller picture. It’s frustrating for us following along & things but they’re obviously the most important people. As much as I think she is guilty, if that isn’t the verdict they decide on then I will have to assume they had much more information to base that decision on.
i do hope we get some more reporting tomorrow & I’ll be listening to the podcast when that comes out