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The excerpt from ‘The Tortoise’ first chapter is available on this thread. I think it was @witchofwestbyfleet who linked it to us. Main character is a serial killer by the way who has in her sights a thinly veiled David Scrace and his girlfriend(Garnier Fructis) It is appallingly written. I’ve never read ‘8 and a half stone’.. in the same way as I wouldn’t read an 18th century text applauding slavery. I’m truly not sure how she was able to pigeon hole Asian communities and those disabled by obesity. It’s beyond contempt.
Somehow the Tortoise passed me by but I’ll certainly go back and have a look for that link.

I didn’t realise her novel was so problematic, I naively assumed it’d just be tit. How has she not been cancelled?!

If I found it I’d read it, but I’m not encouraging or condoning her by buying it. Even for 10p from the jumble. I have put a couple of books in the bin as a protest and to try and save others from reading them, and this sounds like a bin candidate and a half (ooh see what I did there, maybe I should edit Marie Claire.)
 
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In Which Liz's Podcast Still Sucks. Cut for length:

Like the Dreary, the podcast gets progressively shorter each week. It's only 35 minutes this time

Liz announces her intention to discuss Angela Rayner. duck's sake this is gonna be PAINFUL. Liz handily points out that unlike the famous Basic Instinct scene, Rayner was wearing knickers. She repeatedly refers to Rayner's "front bottom." Liz's take on the matter is that it's all about class, not sex; Rayner was seen as less competent because she did not go to Oxbridge and public schools, etc. Liz, of course, has been discriminated against because she went to a polytechnic. It's All About Liz, Always. Liz brags that she has taken part in debates at Oxbridge, and whines that the undergraduates were "rude", "lazy", etc. just because they are young.

She takes a swipe at Rachel Johnson, "posh women who don't bother to dress up", and the female undergraduates "not bothering to wear makeup." It's entirely optional, Liz. It's not some kind of tax we must pay for existing while female. Then she says she told the female undergraduates that their education was a waste because "in five years you'll have got a job in a bank, got married, had two children, and left work and never come back." We launch into a bog-standard Liz rant about women taking maternity leave and not being grateful for what she gave them at Marie Claire. She says "I hate privileged people, I hate people who marry to get ahead, I hate people who've got fathers and mothers to give them a job." Evidently, David expecting an inheritance from elderly parents had nothing to do with Liz's desire to marry him.

She thinks women go to Oxbridge just so they can "chat up some Hooray Henry in a bar", get pregnant, and stop working. Rayner however "got there by her bootstraps and her own hard work" so she's allowed to be sexy. Nic says that women should't be judged for looking too sexy or having big boobs, and "misogyny is unacceptable." You have just sat there agreeing with it for over 10 minutes! After a brief rant by NIc over the House of Common porn scandal, Liz talks about watching an Imagine documentary on Miriam Margolyes whom she loves. There is some brief discussion of books dedicated to dearly departed pets. Liz hates Just Eat and thinks food delivery is lazy, as is having hot drinks in the afternoon. WTF? No matter what time of day it is, it takes the same amount of time to boil a kettle or brew coffee etc.

Back to Liz's anti-Oxbridge crusade! She insults an Oxbridge-educated journalist she once sent to report on Ukraine, who did not want to read a book about Ukraine as it was too long for her. Nic gives an enthusiastic and very positive review of a mystery novel by Joanna Cannon, but as usual Nic is not allowed to be happy and Liz interjects "do you want to go and work for her?" At least Joanna Cannon can write a novel. Nic complains about "jobsworths" in customer service which segues into Liz's archive column, a "Liz Jones Moans." She says it was "a very, very, very funny column" that the Mail should bring back, and that she was "born to moan." You certainly were, love.

The column is about Liz having trouble with customer service when calling a spa at Harrods to change her appointment. If you guessed that its main purpose was to name drop the spa and brag about the fact she could afford multiple expensive treatments there, you're right! How did you know? Liz makes fun of the way Nirpal speaks on the phone, and says that she doesn't think men get as angry on the phone as women do. She's evidently never met my stepfather, or the nut job I was once stuck next to on a train who kept calling someone to bellow obscene threats at them. Liz and Nic both get very heated over online chat bots for customer service. Liz makes an exception for Apple's customer service bot because when she ordered a £1000 iPhone for David ("if he died, no one would know!") the bot said the recipient of the phone was lucky to have her. Presumably the bot would not have said this had it known Liz genuinely thinks someone can call for help in the middle of a stroke.

But what about this week's column? Liz is at Pineapple Dance Studios for a Mail feature. She reminisces about taking fitness classes in the 80s and hating the way she looked, so much so that she lied to her "body conditioning" teacher about what her name was. But then saw in the full length mirror how thin she'd got and went to the doctor, who prescribed her the steroids that led to her CUTTING HER TITS OFF. Liz calls the makeup artist on the Mail shoot a witch for asking if Liz had eyebrows tattooed on. Don't you know that's £6000 worth of eyebrow TRANSPLANT, witch?! Some people have no bloody manners. Sue gets blamed again for causing Liz's anorexia by talking about toast and marmalade being fattening.

Liz talks about her decades of exercise addiction. Nic kisses her wrinkly old arse and tells her she still has a great body in a leotard, Liz says the photographer told her she looked like "a Miss World contestant." Now Liz's self-esteem is buoyed again and She Has Realised She's Good Enough. Nic has something on her keyring to remind her that "she is enough" and Liz cuts in "but you're not though." The harder they fall, I cannot wait for Nic to drop Liz like a sack of hot potatoes. Nic reads out the glowing comments from last week's column, not mentioning that there are only 13 comments overall and they were all heavily moderated to not allow anything critical of Liz. We get fanmail from someone who contacted Liz for help with a university project and is now writing back to say she got a 1st in her degree. I hope Liz realises a degree involves far more work than just one interview with someone ... but don't worry. No doubt this girl, too, will drop out of the workforce in five years' time and her education will be wasted.
 
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In Which Liz's Podcast Still Sucks. Cut for length:

Like the Dreary, the podcast gets progressively shorter each week. It's only 35 minutes this time

Liz announces her intention to discuss Angela Rayner. duck's sake this is gonna be PAINFUL. Liz handily points out that unlike the famous Basic Instinct scene, Rayner was wearing knickers. She repeatedly refers to Rayner's "front bottom." Liz's take on the matter is that it's all about class, not sex; Rayner was seen as less competent because she did not go to Oxbridge and public schools, etc. Liz, of course, has been discriminated against because she went to a polytechnic. It's All About Liz, Always. Liz brags that she has taken part in debates at Oxbridge, and whines that the undergraduates were "rude", "lazy", etc. just because they are young.

She takes a swipe at Rachel Johnson, "posh women who don't bother to dress up", and the female undergraduates "not bothering to wear makeup." It's entirely optional, Liz. It's not some kind of tax we must pay for existing while female. Then she says she told the female undergraduates that their education was a waste because "in five years you'll have got a job in a bank, got married, had two children, and left work and never come back." We launch into a bog-standard Liz rant about women taking maternity leave and not being grateful for what she gave them at Marie Claire. She says "I hate privileged people, I hate people who marry to get ahead, I hate people who've got fathers and mothers to give them a job." Evidently, David expecting an inheritance from elderly parents had nothing to do with Liz's desire to marry him.

She thinks women go to Oxbridge just so they can "chat up some Hooray Henry in a bar", get pregnant, and stop working. Rayner however "got there by her bootstraps and her own hard work" so she's allowed to be sexy. Nic says that women should't be judged for looking too sexy or having big boobs, and "misogyny is unacceptable." You have just sat there agreeing with it for over 10 minutes! After a brief rant by NIc over the House of Common porn scandal, Liz talks about watching an Imagine documentary on Miriam Margolyes whom she loves. There is some brief discussion of books dedicated to dearly departed pets. Liz hates Just Eat and thinks food delivery is lazy, as is having hot drinks in the afternoon. WTF? No matter what time of day it is, it takes the same amount of time to boil a kettle or brew coffee etc.

Back to Liz's anti-Oxbridge crusade! She insults an Oxbridge-educated journalist she once sent to report on Ukraine, who did not want to read a book about Ukraine as it was too long for her. Nic gives an enthusiastic and very positive review of a mystery novel by Joanna Cannon, but as usual Nic is not allowed to be happy and Liz interjects "do you want to go and work for her?" At least Joanna Cannon can write a novel. Nic complains about "jobsworths" in customer service which segues into Liz's archive column, a "Liz Jones Moans." She says it was "a very, very, very funny column" that the Mail should bring back, and that she was "born to moan." You certainly were, love.

The column is about Liz having trouble with customer service when calling a spa at Harrods to change her appointment. If you guessed that its main purpose was to name drop the spa and brag about the fact she could afford multiple expensive treatments there, you're right! How did you know? Liz makes fun of the way Nirpal speaks on the phone, and says that she doesn't think men get as angry on the phone as women do. She's evidently never met my stepfather, or the nut job I was once stuck next to on a train who kept calling someone to bellow obscene threats at them. Liz and Nic both get very heated over online chat bots for customer service. Liz makes an exception for Apple's customer service bot because when she ordered a £1000 iPhone for David ("if he died, no one would know!") the bot said the recipient of the phone was lucky to have her. Presumably the bot would not have said this had it known Liz genuinely thinks someone can call for help in the middle of a stroke.

But what about this week's column? Liz is at Pineapple Dance Studios for a Mail feature. She reminisces about taking fitness classes in the 80s and hating the way she looked, so much so that she lied to her "body conditioning" teacher about what her name was. But then saw in the full length mirror how thin she'd got and went to the doctor, who prescribed her the steroids that led to her CUTTING HER TITS OFF. Liz calls the makeup artist on the Mail shoot a witch for asking if Liz had eyebrows tattooed on. Don't you know that's £6000 worth of eyebrow TRANSPLANT, witch?! Some people have no bloody manners. Sue gets blamed again for causing Liz's anorexia by talking about toast and marmalade being fattening.

Liz talks about her decades of exercise addiction. Nic kisses her wrinkly old arse and tells her she still has a great body in a leotard, Liz says the photographer told her she looked like "a Miss World contestant." Now Liz's self-esteem is buoyed again and She Has Realised She's Good Enough. Nic has something on her keyring to remind her that "she is enough" and Liz cuts in "but you're not though." The harder they fall, I cannot wait for Nic to drop Liz like a sack of hot potatoes. Nic reads out the glowing comments from last week's column, not mentioning that there are only 13 comments overall and they were all heavily moderated to not allow anything critical of Liz. We get fanmail from someone who contacted Liz for help with a university project and is now writing back to say she got a 1st in her degree. I hope Liz realises a degree involves far more work than just one interview with someone ... but don't worry. No doubt this girl, too, will drop out of the workforce in five years' time and her education will be wasted.
I can't wait for Nics memoirs !
 
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In Which Liz's Podcast Still Sucks. Cut for length:

Like the Dreary, the podcast gets progressively shorter each week. It's only 35 minutes this time

Liz announces her intention to discuss Angela Rayner. duck's sake this is gonna be PAINFUL. Liz handily points out that unlike the famous Basic Instinct scene, Rayner was wearing knickers. She repeatedly refers to Rayner's "front bottom." Liz's take on the matter is that it's all about class, not sex; Rayner was seen as less competent because she did not go to Oxbridge and public schools, etc. Liz, of course, has been discriminated against because she went to a polytechnic. It's All About Liz, Always. Liz brags that she has taken part in debates at Oxbridge, and whines that the undergraduates were "rude", "lazy", etc. just because they are young.

She takes a swipe at Rachel Johnson, "posh women who don't bother to dress up", and the female undergraduates "not bothering to wear makeup." It's entirely optional, Liz. It's not some kind of tax we must pay for existing while female. Then she says she told the female undergraduates that their education was a waste because "in five years you'll have got a job in a bank, got married, had two children, and left work and never come back." We launch into a bog-standard Liz rant about women taking maternity leave and not being grateful for what she gave them at Marie Claire. She says "I hate privileged people, I hate people who marry to get ahead, I hate people who've got fathers and mothers to give them a job." Evidently, David expecting an inheritance from elderly parents had nothing to do with Liz's desire to marry him.

She thinks women go to Oxbridge just so they can "chat up some Hooray Henry in a bar", get pregnant, and stop working. Rayner however "got there by her bootstraps and her own hard work" so she's allowed to be sexy. Nic says that women should't be judged for looking too sexy or having big boobs, and "misogyny is unacceptable." You have just sat there agreeing with it for over 10 minutes! After a brief rant by NIc over the House of Common porn scandal, Liz talks about watching an Imagine documentary on Miriam Margolyes whom she loves. There is some brief discussion of books dedicated to dearly departed pets. Liz hates Just Eat and thinks food delivery is lazy, as is having hot drinks in the afternoon. WTF? No matter what time of day it is, it takes the same amount of time to boil a kettle or brew coffee etc.

Back to Liz's anti-Oxbridge crusade! She insults an Oxbridge-educated journalist she once sent to report on Ukraine, who did not want to read a book about Ukraine as it was too long for her. Nic gives an enthusiastic and very positive review of a mystery novel by Joanna Cannon, but as usual Nic is not allowed to be happy and Liz interjects "do you want to go and work for her?" At least Joanna Cannon can write a novel. Nic complains about "jobsworths" in customer service which segues into Liz's archive column, a "Liz Jones Moans." She says it was "a very, very, very funny column" that the Mail should bring back, and that she was "born to moan." You certainly were, love.

The column is about Liz having trouble with customer service when calling a spa at Harrods to change her appointment. If you guessed that its main purpose was to name drop the spa and brag about the fact she could afford multiple expensive treatments there, you're right! How did you know? Liz makes fun of the way Nirpal speaks on the phone, and says that she doesn't think men get as angry on the phone as women do. She's evidently never met my stepfather, or the nut job I was once stuck next to on a train who kept calling someone to bellow obscene threats at them. Liz and Nic both get very heated over online chat bots for customer service. Liz makes an exception for Apple's customer service bot because when she ordered a £1000 iPhone for David ("if he died, no one would know!") the bot said the recipient of the phone was lucky to have her. Presumably the bot would not have said this had it known Liz genuinely thinks someone can call for help in the middle of a stroke.

But what about this week's column? Liz is at Pineapple Dance Studios for a Mail feature. She reminisces about taking fitness classes in the 80s and hating the way she looked, so much so that she lied to her "body conditioning" teacher about what her name was. But then saw in the full length mirror how thin she'd got and went to the doctor, who prescribed her the steroids that led to her CUTTING HER TITS OFF. Liz calls the makeup artist on the Mail shoot a witch for asking if Liz had eyebrows tattooed on. Don't you know that's £6000 worth of eyebrow TRANSPLANT, witch?! Some people have no bloody manners. Sue gets blamed again for causing Liz's anorexia by talking about toast and marmalade being fattening.

Liz talks about her decades of exercise addiction. Nic kisses her wrinkly old arse and tells her she still has a great body in a leotard, Liz says the photographer told her she looked like "a Miss World contestant." Now Liz's self-esteem is buoyed again and She Has Realised She's Good Enough. Nic has something on her keyring to remind her that "she is enough" and Liz cuts in "but you're not though." The harder they fall, I cannot wait for Nic to drop Liz like a sack of hot potatoes. Nic reads out the glowing comments from last week's column, not mentioning that there are only 13 comments overall and they were all heavily moderated to not allow anything critical of Liz. We get fanmail from someone who contacted Liz for help with a university project and is now writing back to say she got a 1st in her degree. I hope Liz realises a degree involves far more work than just one interview with someone ... but don't worry. No doubt this girl, too, will drop out of the workforce in five years' time and her education will be wasted.
That was a dream to read; beautifully written and so witty. Jones has never managed to write like that!
 
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Just read her column… Another heap of steaming manure. She claims she did high impact, aerobic exercise 3 to 4 times a week in her twenties.Not true. She often looked chubby back then? She simply didn’t have that kind of hard gym bod that such exercise produces. I think she might have watched a Jamie Lee Curtis movie!
Also if we are to believe that she ate four almonds a day and some apples.. sigh.. she would have conked out during the first exercise session. No blood sugar, you need complex carbs for such exercise. Silly Mare.
She truly thinks her readers are one brain-celled amoebas.
 
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Her columns now are an never ending cycle of ‘I’m rubbish and ugly and messed up’ then ‘actually I’m amazing, with the body of a teenager and a paragon of kindness and empathy’ then it’s back to ‘I’m rubbish and ugly’ it is SO boring
 
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Well, today’s effort was exceptionally boring I must say.
I may have misremembered, but I could have sworn she wrote that she’d had some bad news, but couldn’t divulge at the time?
That was weeks ago, but it hasn’t been alluded to since (typical Jones. She has form for this)
 
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One of the benefits of getting older is realising your worth is not about your external appearance. But not for Liz, and other mature women who are still obsessed with external validation based on how they look. It’s really sad. I can think of other women the same - Jo Good (mature vlogger/local radio BBC radio presenter - there are threads on here.) But also people like Anthea Turner etc. can you imagine Lizzy Cundy in a few years? Amanda Holden? Absolutely nothing wrong with making the best of yourself whatever your age, but the vanity and constant focus on how they look, as opposed to what their character is, is depressing.
 
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Her columns now are an never ending cycle of ‘I’m rubbish and ugly and messed up’ then ‘actually I’m amazing, with the body of a teenager and a paragon of kindness and empathy’ then it’s back to ‘I’m rubbish and ugly’ it is SO boring
Spot on. I’ve noticed the veering back and forth from Grandiose delusions of her wit and appearance to insecure ramblings are getting worse. I think it’s evidence of her narcissism. The Superwoman complex and the frightened child housed in the same body. It’s said Narcs have no stable sense of self and I think that’s why she invents so much in her column, she has to seem relevant somehow?

One of the benefits of getting older is realising your worth is not about your external appearance. But not for Liz, and other mature women who are still obsessed with external validation based on how they look. It’s really sad. I can think of other women the same - Jo Good (mature vlogger/local radio BBC radio presenter - there are threads on here.) But also people like Anthea Turner etc. can you imagine Lizzy Cundy in a few years? Amanda Holden? Absolutely nothing wrong with making the best of yourself whatever your age, but the vanity and constant focus on how they look, as opposed to what their character is, is depressing.
The film ‘Death becomes her’ comes to mind and not in a good way. Physically too.. what risks do they run getting constant face fillers, on continual diets, addicted to new procedures. The tragic fact is that they begin to look worse not better. I think Liz in particular looks back on her life as a wasteland, so all that’s left is to modify her body again and again in the vain hope of bagging a man… and he will define her? I don’t think she’s redeemable sadly.
 
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The film ‘Death becomes her’ comes to mind and not in a good way. Physically too.. what risks do they run getting constant face fillers, on continual diets, addicted to new procedures. The tragic fact is that they begin to look worse not better. I think Liz in particular looks back on her life as a wasteland, so all that’s left is to modify her body again and again in the vain hope of bagging a man… and he will define her? I don’t think she’s redeemable sadly.
Same as Katie Price, although if LJ read she shared the same addictions as KP, she would probably self combust.
 
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Same as Katie Price, although if LJ read she shared the same addictions as KP, she would probably self combust.
Absolutely. They have loads in common though I agree she couldn’t see it. Body dysmorphia, relying on a man to complete you, acquiring pets to make it seem you are caring( but then mistreating pets because you cannot manage them?) Fear of growing older, addiction it’s all there!
She actually appeared with Pricey at the Oxford union debate, Katie was the most appreciated and Liz went onto slag off the young participants for being overly made up, priveliged.. about to marry rich men etc. This is how she appeared on the night after criticising their makeup!!!
 

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Absolutely. They have loads in common though I agree she couldn’t see it. Body dysmorphia, relying on a man to complete you, acquiring pets to make it seem you are caring( but then mistreating pets because you cannot manage them?) Fear of growing older, addiction it’s all there!
She actually appeared with Pricey at the Oxford union debate, Katie was the most appreciated and Liz went onto slag off the young participants for being overly made up, priveliged.. about to marry rich men etc. This is how she appeared on the night after criticising their makeup!!!
She’s an odd little woman. Like an elf.
 
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She’s an odd little woman. Like an elf.
Yup! Those Dobby ears and Naan bread shaped face. Don’t normally comment (or care) on appearances but since she talks about her maintenance, her wonderfulness, so much I feel we should be able to put our thoughts about her in.
 
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Yup! Those Dobby ears and Naan bread shaped face. Don’t normally comment (or care) on appearances but since she talks about her maintenance, her wonderfulness, so much I feel we should be able to put our thoughts about her in.
yeah but dobby at least had plenty of redeeming qualities, Jones does not.
 
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Yup! Those Dobby ears and Naan bread shaped face. Don’t normally comment (or care) on appearances but since she talks about her maintenance, her wonderfulness, so much I feel we should be able to put our thoughts about her in.
I feel the same after I read her comments on post pregnancy bodies(porridge bellied). She claims her plastic surgeon called her face ‘Heart shaped’? I recall this description after reading Barbara Cartland novels when I was 12, all the heroines had heart shaped faces? No she wasn’t blessed by great bone structure, her nose is wonky with a deviated septum(!),she has the flattest face and a kinda of shiny Cuprinol varnish to her skin. Yet no doubt we’ll hear more about her ‘Miss World looks’ and her being Marie Helvin’s twin in weeks to come.
Hey did no one stop the delusion earlier!? You know a good friend or relative actually saying ‘too skinny, hair awful, update the makeup’ Even Nic saying ‘Not a good look Liz!’ Would she have listened.. would she listen now, perhaps not.
 
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