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I hope to see him live when he's over the peak and tickets are a lot less ... can imagine he might also go towards folk music again, which really suits his voice, I liked his first solo tour best.
First solo tour was amaze
 
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Oh no, this is tragic! Maybe one to have a laugh about on a mates what’s app group, but not to broadcast to millions. The Gogglebox he did with Louis popped up on my YouTube and he looked so much healthier then, he looked really good and their relationship seemed very genuine. So sad to see what’s happening to him.
 
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Here is my take 🤣

Liam saw himself as the Gary Barlow figure of 1D. I think Liam has had a hard time accepting that is not the case. He became arrogant and it’s been hard for him to undo the damage that arrogance caused to his reputation.

Harry has managed to become successful through sheer hard work (can’t be denied) good PR and managing to create an illusion of himself. The reason why Harry is so popular is because he has created an air of mystery around him, he rarely opens up about anything personal and uses a lot of deflection back onto his music. Harry is confident and self assured that’s why it works for him. Liam is not. He is an impulsive over sharer who has become cringy through trying too hard and instead of getting his head down and creating a real career he was off partying in vegas and enjoying the ego trip of being in 1D far too long - longer than the others did. He found it hard to let go and become who he wanted to be, and he still doesn’t know.

Zayn for me is the best singer, I love his voice and music but he is the absolute opposite to Liam - Zayn wants to make music but hates fame. Liam wants to be famous more than he loves music. You can tell Zayn loves making music he is good at it and really spends a lot of time working out what works for him. Harry seems to enjoy performing music

Louis I feel sorry for and I don’t think he’s particularly talented singer and that’s been hard for him, he is not a strong singer and has a hard life. I hope he finds what makes him happy as it must be hard to see others around you do better and be working very hard yourself.

Niall seems very grounded and has a good sense of self, is able to balance himself and is coming out as a very good singer/songwriter as he’s relaxed and not pressuring himself to be someone he isn’t, he knows what his limits are and he is making great music I really like so much of his work. It’s not setting the world on fire like Harry but that’s ok - you don’t always have to be the best to still be good at something. Niall has a long career ahead I think as he gets better at what he’s doing.

Liam I suspect just can’t find what he is looking for and he’s drifting around. He looks weird now and I think he’s not a good or present father at all. Being a dad seems to have pulled Zayn out of whatever serious addictions he was battling and that’s good to see.
 
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Here is my take 🤣

Liam saw himself as the Gary Barlow figure of 1D. I think Liam has had a hard time accepting that is not the case. He became arrogant and it’s been hard for him to undo the damage that arrogance caused to his reputation.

Harry has managed to become successful through sheer hard work (can’t be denied) good PR and managing to create an illusion of himself. The reason why Harry is so popular is because he has created an air of mystery around him, he rarely opens up about anything personal and uses a lot of deflection back onto his music. Harry is confident and self assured that’s why it works for him. Liam is not. He is an impulsive over sharer who has become cringy through trying too hard and instead of getting his head down and creating a real career he was off partying in vegas and enjoying the ego trip of being in 1D far too long - longer than the others did. He found it hard to let go and become who he wanted to be, and he still doesn’t know.

Zayn for me is the best singer, I love his voice and music but he is the absolute opposite to Liam - Zayn wants to make music but hates fame. Liam wants to be famous more than he loves music. You can tell Zayn loves making music he is good at it and really spends a lot of time working out what works for him. Harry seems to enjoy performing music

Louis I feel sorry for and I don’t think he’s particularly talented singer and that’s been hard for him, he is not a strong singer and has a hard life. I hope he finds what makes him happy as it must be hard to see others around you do better and be working very hard yourself.

Niall seems very grounded and has a good sense of self, is able to balance himself and is coming out as a very good singer/songwriter as he’s relaxed and not pressuring himself to be someone he isn’t, he knows what his limits are and he is making great music I really like so much of his work. It’s not setting the world on fire like Harry but that’s ok - you don’t always have to be the best to still be good at something. Niall has a long career ahead I think as he gets better at what he’s doing.

Liam I suspect just can’t find what he is looking for and he’s drifting around. He looks weird now and I think he’s not a good or present father at all. Being a dad seems to have pulled Zayn out of whatever serious addictions he was battling and that’s good to see.
Saying this as someone who wasn't a 1D fan or knows that much about them, I just have a nosey passing interest 😆, but I'm intrigued in how Harry's career will pan out - scratch the surface and it just seems like there's not much there beyond good marketing, clever stylist, generic songwriting and good looks. All of which clearly gets him very far indeed, but will be interesting to see for how long. The guy seems to have no personality whatsoever

Completely agree about Niall - he seems to be the driving force behind what he does (unlike Harry). I was really impressed with what he did during lockdown, trying to raise money for roadies because of their lost income. It wasn't a 'trendy' attention-grabbing cause but just showed how much interest and involvement he seems to have in the world around him

Liam I just think maybe he's not very bright or self-aware which isn't a great combination post-fame. I just feel quite sorry for him now
 
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Louis I feel sorry for and I don’t think he’s particularly talented singer and that’s been hard for him, he is not a strong singer and has a hard life. I hope he finds what makes him happy as it must be hard to see others around you do better and be working very hard yourself.
I saw a thread on twitter the other day suggesting Louis is one of Dan Wooton's victims, because of the timing of some of his interviews and because Wooton broke the news of Louis' sister's death on twitter. I'm too old to be a fan of 1D, but I was wondering if anyone knew anything about it, because the thread did make a horrible kind of sense.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if Cheryl has stopped his visits with Bear. He seems to be on a very bad trajectory - I'm getting Aaron Carter vibes.
I mean how often did he see Bear anyway? Didn’t he once thank Cheryl for letting him get on with his career?
 
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Saying this as someone who wasn't a 1D fan or knows that much about them, I just have a nosey passing interest 😆, but I'm intrigued in how Harry's career will pan out - scratch the surface and it just seems like there's not much there beyond good marketing, clever stylist, generic songwriting and good looks. All of which clearly gets him very far indeed, but will be interesting to see for how long. The guy seems to have no personality whatsoever

Completely agree about Niall - he seems to be the driving force behind what he does (unlike Harry). I was really impressed with what he did during lockdown, trying to raise money for roadies because of their lost income. It wasn't a 'trendy' attention-grabbing cause but just showed how much interest and involvement he seems to have in the world around him

Liam I just think maybe he's not very bright or self-aware which isn't a great combination post-fame. I just feel quite sorry for him now
Same but I am not sure how much Harry will mind when it’s gone? As no one really knows much about Harry, who knows if he will be happy to smash it in life till he’s 35 then slope off to some giant hippy desert retreat and grow cactus and keep lizards? He might be happy doing that 🤣
I do wonder if he is just going to keep evolving himself, so once this version of Harry gets old he will be a new different Harry. He has rabid fans (my daughters) so they will likely follow whatever he does. Madonna is a lesson in don’t take it too far… he might do more acting. I think he will just do whatever he wants to do and as he works really hard he will probably do well. I can’t deny he has an insane work ethic it’s just not clear what’s driving it, or who.

I feel sorry for Liam too but I imagine people tried to help him but he was all ego and no trousers for a long time and I think that’s made him isolated now from reality and grounded people

Niall will still be around perched on a stool looking happy crooning in his 70’s 🤣 and probably have a load of little Nialls with beautiful younger models and still be playing golf with all his celeb pals not taking life too seriously. Sometimes it’s the quiet ones who creep up on you!
 
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Here is my take 🤣

Liam saw himself as the Gary Barlow figure of 1D. I think Liam has had a hard time accepting that is not the case. He became arrogant and it’s been hard for him to undo the damage that arrogance caused to his reputation.

Harry has managed to become successful through sheer hard work (can’t be denied) good PR and managing to create an illusion of himself. The reason why Harry is so popular is because he has created an air of mystery around him, he rarely opens up about anything personal and uses a lot of deflection back onto his music. Harry is confident and self assured that’s why it works for him. Liam is not. He is an impulsive over sharer who has become cringy through trying too hard and instead of getting his head down and creating a real career he was off partying in vegas and enjoying the ego trip of being in 1D far too long - longer than the others did. He found it hard to let go and become who he wanted to be, and he still doesn’t know.

Zayn for me is the best singer, I love his voice and music but he is the absolute opposite to Liam - Zayn wants to make music but hates fame. Liam wants to be famous more than he loves music. You can tell Zayn loves making music he is good at it and really spends a lot of time working out what works for him. Harry seems to enjoy performing music

Louis I feel sorry for and I don’t think he’s particularly talented singer and that’s been hard for him, he is not a strong singer and has a hard life. I hope he finds what makes him happy as it must be hard to see others around you do better and be working very hard yourself.

Niall seems very grounded and has a good sense of self, is able to balance himself and is coming out as a very good singer/songwriter as he’s relaxed and not pressuring himself to be someone he isn’t, he knows what his limits are and he is making great music I really like so much of his work. It’s not setting the world on fire like Harry but that’s ok - you don’t always have to be the best to still be good at something. Niall has a long career ahead I think as he gets better at what he’s doing.

Liam I suspect just can’t find what he is looking for and he’s drifting around. He looks weird now and I think he’s not a good or present father at all. Being a dad seems to have pulled Zayn out of whatever serious addictions he was battling and that’s good to see.
Louis is doing completely fine he’s on his second world tour, and he’s actually worked to get to where he is unlike Liam, harry to me just seems so manufactured and fake I think he’s lost all sense of genuineness, he’s talented I can’t deny that but I just feel like this “new Harry” is an image, maybe this break will do him The world of good and he’ll “find himself”. Niall is a truly lovely person who makes very good music, he’s actually underrated, zayn (who actually has a new song out and it’s quite good) will always be a mystery to me because I respect the fact he doesn’t want the fame but he could have it all in the palm of his hand even if he wanted to, like I think last week after the interview he did, he was the number 1 searched person on Google, ultimately it’s his decision but I do think sometimes he can be wrong about that. Liam, there’s a part of me that feels bad for Liam, but then on the other hand I don’t, when one direction broke up he tried to go as far as possible from them (music wise) with strip that down) and to be fair that song was successful, it worked but there’s only so far that can get you, I always say if he went down the Michael Buble route he would have been more successful cause he does have a good voice, no one can deny that, but he’s wasting it with whatever music he’s making, a part of me hopes this next album will be a complete different sound, because if he makes a truly good album, it’s not too late for him to salvage a bit of success, but I think the problem with Liam is he’s still so stuck with one direction. To me it seems like a part of him wants to move on but then a part of him doesn’t cause it’s still all he knows. Now I love one direction and always will but he needs to get it into his head that they’re not getting back together anytime soon and won’t be for a good while.
 
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Liam hasn't the personality, the charisma or the business mind to be a Bublé type. I'm not convinced he has the voice either.
He's not a solo artist IMO.
 
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Tepid tea, but I live not far from where he went to school/college. Apparently his mom is really nice, used to work at a nursery, down to earth but his sisters not so much..where he's from to the dizzy heights of fame are like night and day, though he did go to a decent secondary school.
And because he's a local lad, (and in spite of him supporting the local teams rivals lol) I can't help but wish him well..

Not to say I haven't cringed along sometimes with the rest of you..
 
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Liam hasn't the personality, the charisma or the business mind to be a Bublé type. I'm not convinced he has the voice either.
He's not a solo artist IMO.
No I mean I have seen Bublè live and he has the natural charisma, stage presence and vocal range/depth of a literal sex hormone loaded dart straight into my brain. I was not alone, seeing women everywhere melt into a complete mess mesmerised at his beautiful kind smile believing he is a lovely guy who loves his family 😯
I went with my ex and even he said he had a giant man crush on him after getting spine tingles

Liam has the arrogance of someone who doesn’t really have good self esteem at all but has convinced himself he’s amazing. I think he’s had a big shock coming back down to Earth and resentment against the other lads.

Zayn is a troubled soul but he makes beautiful and deep feeling music of someone who really does love making music.

I didn’t even know Louis was on tour he has not really released very much that I’m aware of? He does at least seem to have a bouncy personality which will do him well

I don’t think anyone ever needs to worry about Harry he knows what he’s doing, a tamer less weird creepy version of Jared Leto perhaps

you need to be careful what you do in music to keep up with trends look At Justin timberlake now he’s a cringy old dad 🤣 (forever love 2000’s JT) and Liam is stuck in that era and hasn’t really moved on.

I keep seeing clips of his one little beaded plait and a part of my tina evaporates
 
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The announcement about cancelling his tour for health issues with his kidneys. That man has 100% fallen off the wagon and is having addiction struggles.
I just hope he gets the help he needs
 
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It seems like he compares himself to others a lot and it plays a big part in his mental health not being good and having addiction issues. I really think since one direction split up and he’s seen other band mates have more success and not even just his band mates but other people in the industry having the career he wants to have again. He’s going to stay stuck in a never ending cycle if he is so caught up in wanting fame and success. I’m sure he might have other things going on that are playing a part in him being unhappy but it’s clear he’s not in a good place and I think it’s more than just a kidney infection. With anyone with an addiction I wouldn’t shame him for that and I hope he’s able to get help.
 
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Have any of them really been hugely successful other than H? Even then H had a curated image and PR fauxmances to keep him in the news.

I think Liam can't help but compare to any successful singer, his album was labelled plaigarism of Justin Timberlake but it wasn't really. I don't think he's ever found his own image. The fact he was basically groomed shows how impressionable he is. I wish him well.
 
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Have any of them really been hugely successful other than H? Even then H had a curated image and PR fauxmances to keep him in the news.

I think Liam can't help but compare to any successful singer, his album was labelled plaigarism of Justin Timberlake but it wasn't really. I don't think he's ever found his own image. The fact he was basically groomed shows how impressionable he is. I wish him well.
Louis had a uk no1 with his last Album so did. Niall they’re all doing well apart from Liam, Harry is only successful because of partly his talent and a huge part is his management team..
 
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I hate to say it but it was only a matter of time. Hopefully he finally gets the help he needs
 
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