So here you have KyLIE’s well considered Theory of Art and Design, all condensed into seven slides, encompassing all history of human visual expression.What does she say about the art, Jerry. This is the area where I am likely to be most critical and most pissed off!
@Spirit I haven't been to Kingston-on-Thames for ages. I imagine the bondage shop is long gone. I remember that going to the cafe in Bentalls for a banana split back in the day was the height of social splendour!Btw Swindon is a very busy place - I would see him more as Tunbridge Wells. On the topic of towns, @PlinyinTorquay, Kingston must have evolved since I lived there and Bentalls was king -
@Jerry thank you for this. Did she really produce these slides. All I can say, for the moment is, oh dear!So here you have KyLIE’s well considered Theory of Art and Design, all condensed into seven slides, encompassing all history of human visual expression.
It can be summarized by one phrase or admonition, which she may have, unfortunately, heard as a child,
“Stay within the lines !”
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Maybe they'll buy matching reindeer sweaters for Christmas. Like Colin Firth in Bridget Jones's Diary!Lol. Now is in in virtually every video and they're like a Couple's Vlog channel,
@Alessandro. Thank you so much for this. I will try and bring myself to watch it in due course. I imagine there are the usual flurries of compliments from K's fans.@PlinyinTorquay @Denise0211 @emm @Jerry KyLie’s explanation of “classical” art versus “contemporary” art would badly fail a Visual Arts 101 essayShe has, unfortunately, taken on our comments about not including art/architecture/culture in her vlogs and made an awful mash up of art history and theory which only highlights her ignorance. We all expected something like this and by setting herself up as a kind of “authority” it makes it even more dismal.
Anyway, the discussion of art soon falls away into a strange mish mash of a piano player in an empty palazzo, an awkward “interview”, a lunch, Guido bringing his accountant’s expertise to the cost of renovating the theatre (the energy drained away with his flat estimation of 100k) and her lounging on a sofa reading the Polish soldier’s diary during the war (wearing glasses to make her look more serious and she’s got the heavy filters on after the chicken dinner flog)....All very disjointed and, professionally speaking, not well done at all
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Reminds me of Seurat’s pointillism as well as Monet’s lily pads, even Pollack’s drip paintings.For instance, despite my personal preferences, I was dazzled by Damien Hirst's Cherry Blossoms which opened at the Fondation Cartier pour l'art contemporain while I was in Paris.
@emm is it the theatre specifically or the palazzo in general? I tried to continue watching but, again, the 2 languages annoys me to no end. Her faux Audrey Hepburnesque in Eng and wannabe Tuscan.Also a question for the italians in the group (or anyone who has an idea) why do the family who own this theatre not make money by opening it to the public? I think it is pretty standard for once mega rich families who own such properties in the UK
I don't understand why people compare Kylie - voice or anything - in any way to Audrey. Her fans when they do it are just massaging her ego.@emm is it the theatre specifically or the palazzo in general? I tried to continue watching but, again, the 2 languages annoys me to no end. Her faux Audrey Hepburnesque in Eng and wannabe Tuscan.
The palazzo as I have seen is open to the public, complete with guided tours, which don't usually come cheap. What is the issue with money?
Thanks to anyone who sacrificed themselves watching!
I think bc it seems that is what she aspires to lol.I don't understand why people compare Kylie - voice or anything - in any way to Audrey. Her fans when they do it are just massaging her ego.
I thought I’d share with you this photograph of Audrey that I have on my apartment wall in Doha. Mine is an artist’s proof by Terry O’Neill taken when Audrey was Filming, Two for the Road with Albert Finney in San Tropez in 1967. The dove apparently landed on Audrey’s shoulder and O’Neill was there to capture the moment.
Aa a huge Audrey fan I completely agree! No one should dare to compare themselves to her as no one comes even close to her grace and eleganceI don't understand why people compare Kylie - voice or anything - in any way to Audrey. Her fans when they do it are just massaging her ego.
I thought I’d share with you this photograph of Audrey that I have on my apartment wall in Doha. Mine is an artist’s proof by Terry O’Neill taken when Audrey was Filming, Two for the Road with Albert Finney in San Tropez in 1967. The dove apparently landed on Audrey’s shoulder and O’Neill was there to capture the moment.
It's funny bc Kylie doesn't strike me as graceful or elegant. She seems so hulk-ish, not sure how to put into words. Despite her wanting to seem refined or someone who knows her forks (lol) I see her slamming a beach volleyball in someone's face, but taunting them in Italian.Aa a huge Audrey fan I completely agree! No one should dare to compare themselves to her as no one comes even close to her grace and elegance
This is something I have become aware of over a period of time and really exposes her lack of a structured formal education. A classic case Kylie skips across the surface of art, the arts, for the effect affords. Kylie plays about with the effects, ‘smoke and mirrors‘🪞 filters and props.unfortunately, taken on our comments about not including art/architecture/culture in her vlogs and made an awful mash up of art history and theory which only highlights her ignorance.
DH is a master at the ol razzle dazzleI was dazzled by Damien Hirst's Cherry Blossoms which opened at the Fondation Cartier pour l'art
I visted Bar Harbour as a teen and the first thing I did was buy a lobster and cook it on the beach.Also, I used to visit Maine as a child and this accent is sadly waning, but I adore it. Kylie would neva'!!
I don’t usually go to church, except for the architecture and sense of history and spirituality, although am familiar with the rituals, but will go in to light a candle, even though I’m not Catholic. I have challenged religion in general, but find it completely offensive that she so generally both dismisses the “melodrama” while at the same time, seems to chastise society for observing these rituals only once a year. Which is it ?!For instance, her sweeping comparisons between old a new: "the religious melodrama in a society that attends mass maybe once a year" and "Ballrooms in an era where ball gowns have been diminished to a polyester imitation' are two examples.
I took this to mean a surface reference to the series Brigerton, where history is incidental and gowns are polyester imitations."Ballrooms in an era where ball gowns have been diminished to a polyester imitation'
I thought she was referencing messages from her fawners who share their life issues and sentiments with her, making a shallow comparison. I think she is setting herself up to be both victim and guru.Her reading from the book, A Soldier at War, with the English subtitles, felt a little clunky and unnecessarily long. This is where she makes parallels with some of her followers.
I had the same fleeting thought, that this was “intended for us”. I just as quickly let it go, because a faker, phoney con does not deserve to be taken seriously and she cynically uses art and culture, and this book, as a shield to deflect thoughtful comment and criticism. Again, she likes to play victim and guru. If we can have fun exposing the charade, all the better.and I have the impression that their greatest pleasure is to be able to deride someone,
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