Kyle Pallo

[Modee1002]

It’s good that you care about your friend and want to stick up for her. She felt what she felt and no one here should try to invalidate that. There are people who in social situations unfortunately amplify any perceived slight and take it as a crushing sign of rejection. They can’t help it and shouldn’t be mocked for it. My suggestion is that as a friend, you help her to understand that it was unlikely that it was personal and by his nature, he’s probably brusque with anyone when he’s focused on capturing something for his vlog. Also, because they have so many patrons, existing ordinary fans and new fans, Kyle and JoJo have to divvy up their attention and recognition and spread it around and that means they might give recognition to someone new and skip over people that they know they have already recognized or interacted with recently. I think that’s what your friend needs, someone like you to help her process it and help her not be brought down by it.

She is like that at times. Thank you for this. You're right, it probably wasn't personal and I understand better now.

 

[Modee1002]

I think I know who we’re talking about here. I’ve seen Kyle state on vlog how big a support she is on his channel. He also gushed over her haunted house gift. So your friend meets Kyle, they chat, jump around which makes it into the vlog. I see her comment on the vid that she enjoyed the chat and that he’s awesome. That should be enough attention right? Sounds like the second time she caught him, it was at a bad time while he was busy vlogging the Christmas party. So he couldn’t show her as much attention on that occasion and she’s now upset with him?

I‘m sorry but you said he needs to pay attention to people who watch his vlogs and who are patreons. He gave her shout outs, showed appreciation for her gifts, met and chatted with her, featured her in his vlog. I count that as pretty generous attention. But of course forget all that because she ran into him at a busy time and suddenly he’s a DB?

And same with Instagram, you said he shared her posts previously, including one of her congratulating him for 100k. But because he doesn’t share every single post she tags him in, and instead shares someone else’s post who probably also wants attention from him, he’s bad?

Just curious, how do you know that's my friend?

 

[somwls]

Just curious, how do you know that's my friend?

I see her comments on Kyles videos a lot, and I know she mentioned she and her family were going to Disney World and wanted to meet Kyle. I also saw her mothers(?) comment on his Christmas party vlog saying sorry they couldn’t chat longer. Also she was in the jump around at his Hollywood Studios vlog, so I kind of put two and two together. She seems like a really nice person from her comments. And I appreciate you were just looking out for your friend, but I just felt your post was a little harsh on Kyle considering he has acknowledged her support of him in many vlogs. And she did get to meet him so she ultimately got her wish.

 

[Modee1002]

I see her comments on Kyles videos a lot, and I know she mentioned she and her family were going to Disney World and wanted to meet Kyle. I also saw her mothers(?) comment on his Christmas party vlog saying sorry they couldn’t chat longer. Also she was in the jump around at his Hollywood Studios vlog, so I kind of put two and two together. She seems like a really nice person from her comments. And I appreciate you were just looking out for your friend, but I just felt your post was a little harsh on Kyle considering he has acknowledged her support of him in many vlogs. And she did get to meet him so she ultimately got her wish.

She really is a nice person and I see that I was a little harsh. Thank you.

 

[Chipperchet32]

The family jump around was cute. You could tell he was sad to see them all go.


Going to guess nobody will be seeing Mel this trip. bet people will ask in comments.

Glad to not see mel...

Kyle is as fake as everything Disney is.
In a Disney park you see a pretty facade and behind there is a big old warehouse where the magic happens.
In kyle’s case the warehouse is vacant.
He has most of the time no clue what he is talking about and is too lazy to do any research about anything.

You can see the real Kyle when he appears in other people's vlogs then he forgets to put on his act, probably the reason why he didn’t have much friends while growing up he is just not likable.


The only reason that he started vlogging is because he is too lazy to work a full day.
Now it is filming for 2 hours 1 hour editing and lets call it a day it is not even part time.
And of course so he can write his year-round holiday off as a business expense.

He says he loves Halloween but during the Halloween season the only things he did was some lame Disney stuff and horror nights at universal while he is in an area where there are numerous Halloween activity’s again because he is lazy.
His merchandise is ancient because he is simply not willing to put in the work to design new things.

A friend of mine was on his Patreon for a while, he is very insecure about his views and is constantly begging for DVC points and that is al you get a whining Kyle how rants about all his insecurity’s and sometimes early acces to a vlog.
All the other things he promises for his tiers are non-existing because he is too lazy and just want to make a quick buck.


And then Jojo and Mel, how can Jojo be cheating when there is no relationship?

I think Mel wanted more but Jojo didn’t and let's not forget that Mel was sticking to Jojo like a barnacle to a whale because she is in desperate need for exposure so she can get her non existing carrier of the ground.


The only facts I have is that Jojo most of the time paid her way so in this case I guess Jojo was used and not the other way around.

Glad to see that someone else sees through Mel..she is extremely clingy and half the times doesn't know what shes talking about. Did you see her interacting with the Queens on the halloween video.. It was horrendous.. It was like she was taking offense to it and arguing with them..LMAO

 

[starri]

Glad to see that someone else sees through Mel..she is extremely clingy and half the times doesn't know what shes talking about. Did you see her interacting with the Queens on the halloween video.. It was horrendous.. It was like she was taking offense to it and arguing with them..LMAO

I don't have a way to say this where I don't sound like an mole, but I kind of agree with this. I don't begrudge her being hurt, nor am I really excusing whatever indiscretion JoJo might have had, but it honestly didn't seem like they were in a relationship. Flirty with mutual interest, certainly. But that's not a relationship.

I also question the judgment of anyone who just spills details of their romantic foibles to perfect strangers on social media. I mean, with your friends over a pitcher of margaritas, sure. But just some rando on Instagram?

 

[WDWUO83]

I don't have a way to say this where I don't sound like an mole, but I kind of agree with this. I don't begrudge her being hurt, nor am I really excusing whatever indiscretion JoJo might have had, but it honestly didn't seem like they were in a relationship. Flirty with mutual interest, certainly. But that's not a relationship.

I also question the judgment of anyone who just spills details of their romantic foibles to perfect strangers on social media. I mean, with your friends over a pitcher of margaritas, sure. But just some rando on Instagram?

This. It absolutely doesn’t excuse Jojo being a douche canoe. But she def has some maturity issues (they both do). Not to sound like an old lady yelling at the damn kids to get off my lawn…but I feel like a generation who’s lives revolve around social media has lead to impeded emotional intelligence. So much of their lives revolve around the parasocial experience on the internet. Actual relationships IRL require work that they don’t seem equipped to take on.

 

[starri]

So much of their lives revolve around the parasocial experience on the internet.

Honestly, I also think it sucks for the vloggers a little. I know they're putting themselves out there, but with the way celebrity has been historically, you'd be a fan of Angelina Jolie, read interviews that she did, and see her movies. The way these social media people operate, they have a lot more direct engagement--and since a lot of the people engaging are young--that can get construed as friendship. I follow a few podcasters that I like on Twitter and have had some interactions with them, but I wouldn't consider that anything more than someone whose opinions I find interesting finding something I said interesting. And I can see how direct interaction would read a bit different for the fan/supporter versus the vlogger. Kyle might have been short with the friend mentioned in this thread, but he was also working, as much as we don't often think of vlogging as a job.

And that's before you get into the crazy stalkers. I find the Trackers completely loathsome, but it's ducked up that people have showed up at their house. Even they don't deserve that.

 

[WDWUO83]

Honestly, I also think it sucks for the vloggers a little. I know they're putting themselves out there, but with the way celebrity has been historically, you'd be a fan of Angelina Jolie, read interviews that she did, and see her movies. The way these social media people operate, they have a lot more direct engagement--and since a lot of the people engaging are young--that can get construed as friendship. I follow a few podcasters that I like on Twitter and have had some interactions with them, but I wouldn't consider that anything more than someone whose opinions I find interesting finding something I said interesting. And I can see how direct interaction would read a bit different for the fan/supporter versus the vlogger. Kyle might have been short with the friend mentioned in this thread, but he was also working, as much as we don't often think of vlogging as a job.

And that's before you get into the crazy stalkers. I find the Trackers completely loathsome, but it's ducked up that people have showed up at their house. Even they don't deserve that.

Absolutely, it makes for a pretty wild ride for the vloggers! The safety concerns, needing to constantly be mindful that you don’t eye roll or use the wrong tone at the wrong time….it’s a lot. I don’t think of online personalities as friends. But so many people really believe they have a relationship with vloggers or influencers.

Tracker stans are on a whooole new level of creepy and inappropriate!

 

[Wendilyn22]

Honestly, I also think it sucks for the vloggers a little. I know they're putting themselves out there, but with the way celebrity has been historically, you'd be a fan of Angelina Jolie, read interviews that she did, and see her movies. The way these social media people operate, they have a lot more direct engagement--and since a lot of the people engaging are young--that can get construed as friendship. I follow a few podcasters that I like on Twitter and have had some interactions with them, but I wouldn't consider that anything more than someone whose opinions I find interesting finding something I said interesting. And I can see how direct interaction would read a bit different for the fan/supporter versus the vlogger. Kyle might have been short with the friend mentioned in this thread, but he was also working, as much as we don't often think of vlogging as a job.

And that's before you get into the crazy stalkers. I find the Trackers completely loathsome, but it's ducked up that people have showed up at their house. Even they don't deserve that.

"Showed up" to their double gated community and somehow got in? I call BS on that whole thing. Jenn lies about everything and over exaggerates. I don't believe for a second that actually happened.

 

[starri]

"Showed up" to their double gated community and somehow got in? I call BS on that whole thing. Jenn lies about everything and over exaggerates. I don't believe for a second that actually happened.

I actually do believe it. There are creeps (a mother and son) who have approached Tim multiple times in the parks, and in the pictures I've seen, he looks uneasy and not in a "Get Away From Me, Peasant" kind of way.

Plus some of them leave comments about their son that make my skin crawl.

 

[WDWUO83]

I actually do believe it. There are creeps (a mother and son) who have approached Tim multiple times in the parks, and in the pictures I've seen, he looks uneasy and not in a "Get Away From Me, Peasant" kind of way.

Plus some of them leave comments about their son that make my skin crawl.

Yeah I believe it to. Those people are unhinged. Join us over on the Tracker threads for more discussion of how they need to keep that baby off the internet

 

[Wendilyn22]

I actually do believe it. There are creeps (a mother and son) who have approached Tim multiple times in the parks, and in the pictures I've seen, he looks uneasy and not in a "Get Away From Me, Peasant" kind of way.

Plus some of them leave comments about their son that make my skin crawl.

Oh I know about those and they are creepy AF. I just don't believe someone would get through the double gates at their McMansion.

 

[Jjjg]

I think with whatever happened with Mel from the start she seemed like a fangirl and started appearing everywhere, like him taking her with Paula Abdul. He allowed it too much and baited it with his headlines and I think it's when he lost his way. Hopefully he learns.

 

[starri]

Maybe I'm being too nice, but I honestly do want to read him as young, stupid, and inconsiderate instead of an out-and-out bad guy.

 

[ViceroyMichael]

Mel didn’t shout out to the world what JoJo did. I think, especially given the circumstances, she has been very restrained. She responded to an inquiry. If I was cheated on, I’d be a lot less restrained in letting people, including strangers, know what happened.

 

[Jjjg]

Mel didn’t shout out to the world what JoJo did. I think, especially given the circumstances, she has been very restrained. She responded to an inquiry. If I was cheated on, I’d be a lot less restrained in letting people, including strangers, know what happened.

Not just one inquiry, she replied to multiple people same thing. He sang to everyone and all over YouTube how they were just friends, so as far as his "fanbase" know they didn't need those details.

I think she wanted to make him look like the bad guy when originally it seemed like she was using him.

 

[starri]

If I was cheated on, I’d be a lot less restrained in letting people, including strangers, know what happened.

Is calling the thing between them a "relationship" fair, though? Flirtation, mutual interest, even dating? Sure, those are reasonable. But it's not "cheating" if you're not in an exclusive relationship.

Hell, this is an anonymous forum, so I'll be forthright about this: My marriage is open, and I have additional partners beyond my husband. We are by definition not exclusive, but even with that, and with clear communication, sometimes feelings get hurt. I'm not saying that's right, nor am I saying the hurt feelings are invalid, but I am saying that you cannot cheat on someone who is not your exclusive romantic partner.

We will never know what went down between them, but given his "just friends" label on YouTube, I'm not going to declare Mel's perceptions completely accurate. It doesn't negate or invalidate her feelings, but it is a different context.

 

[somwls]

I think he was using her. The videos with her in performed better than his other vlogs, so it was almost like he was exploiting the ‘relationship’ in an attempt to get his viewers invested so they would want to see what would happen next.

I also think he was leading Mel on a little and making her think what they had was more than it was. I mean he was surprising her with Disney vacations, going to visit her all the way in Texas. Taking her to ‘date spots’ in the parks. I saw an Instagram story on JoJos page (that she tagged him in) where they were kissing in a way that definitely wasn’t ‘just friends’.

I mean who does those things for someone who isn’t meaningful or special in some way? For him it was probably more about the sex and views on YouTube. For her, she probably did think there was something more, even if they insisted just friends. I mean she did look at him all googly eyed a lot. Definitely appeared as though she had fallen for him.

I don’t think he’s a terrible person, but he’s got a lot to learn about how to treat women with more respect in the future.

 

[starri]

I don’t think he’s a terrible person, but he’s got a lot to learn about how to treat women with more respect in the future.

Definitely this.