Kneecap

[Lazarus]

Know what’s really getting on my bits? The deflection.

On having gigs cancelled, the band's manager said: "It's not for us to worry, it's for us to have the strength of conviction that we did the right thing."

Palestinian folk would probably reject their way of life, and so would their beloved Hezbollah. The controversy is largely around the ‘kill your local MP’ statement yet they keep deflecting from that part.

 

[NeverEnough]

I find it baffling that they took the UK gov to court to get money. I guess funding the arts is very open to interpretation.

Someone got banned on tattle for saying something in a similar vein about wishing MPs of a certain party should be killed - this isn't twitter or facebook! I'm sure they ran off elsewhere to bemoan about "power crazy mods banned for absolutely no reason" . But that kind of talk is disgusting and it's so prevalent on the big tech social media that people think it's OK, when it really isn't.

There are some politicians I hate with a visceral passion. There are some posters who’s viewpoints I will never understand even if gravity were to implode tomorrow and up becomes down. But it would never ever enter my consciousness to hurt anyone. Mock? Yes. All day long. Laugh at. Once again I’m not proud to say, but yes I do this. But physically hurt, or even kill, someone over a different viewpoint? Never in a million years, and anyone who even contemplates this isn’t the good guy. They are not purveyors of righteous vigilante justice righting historical wrongs, they are a violent thug and an utterly despicable human being*. And if your cause attracts such lowlifes as reflected in your own actions, just how objectionable is your cause?




*See Luigi Mangione and his “supporters”.

 

[TheMan]

The wee froot in the tea cosey needs to wise up. They're all bellends, Larping wee shitebags who didn't grow up in the troubles and they thought they were so clever, until they found out otherwise and now are shitting themselves. I hope they get done for their comments, but then again, if they do, the Irish victimhood complex amongst Republicans will just get worse and more insufferable.

 

[MaryLou32]

Makes me wonder if the people booking acts actually research who they are booking? Because surely there is some research before they agree. So I don’t get why they suddenly cancel them because they should by now know what this band is about.

They knew exactly what they were getting when they made the booking. It’s not like Kneecap have been quiet on their political outlook before this past couple of weeks. So pretty ridiculous of them to see the bandwagon and jump on it.

 

[MaryLou32]

The wee froot in the tea cosey needs to wise up. They're all bellends, Larping wee shitebags who didn't grow up in the troubles and they thought they were so clever, until they found out otherwise and now are shitting themselves. I hope they get done for their comments, but then again, if they do, the Irish victimhood complex amongst Republicans will just get worse and more insufferable.

They’ve never claimed to grow up in the troubles, their schtick is the legacy of the troubles and intergenerational trauma.
It doesn’t seem like they are shitting themselves tbh, it’s been said several times by the band and their manager, if their stance causes them to lose money and fame, they don’t care, they are speaking up for what’s right. And that’s what important here.

Republican victimhood complex? Could you expand? that sounds like a sweeping generalisation.

 

[monga]

The wee froot in the tea cosey needs to wise up. They're all bellends, Larping wee shitebags who didn't grow up in the troubles and they thought they were so clever, until they found out otherwise and now are shitting themselves. I hope they get done for their comments, but then again, if they do, the Irish victimhood complex amongst Republicans will just get worse and more insufferable.

He’s a qualified teacher btw…It’s the refusal to be a victim really riles certain people the back of the bus isn’t very comfortable…Enjoy

 

[Wee Nora]

IMO, there’s a big difference between advocating for constitutional change and what Kneecap are doing. Glorifying violence, chanting ‘up Hamas,’ 'up Hezbollah', mocking victims of terrorism, calling for more politicians to be murdered... that’s not principled nationalism, that’s performative provocation. I know plenty of people who would like a UI that would never behave or speak like they do.

My point isn’t that anyone with a different constitutional vision shouldn’t participate in society. It’s that Kneecap, in particular, profit from the very system they claim to despise, while making a brand out of hostility. It’s not about opposing British rule; it’s about profiting off the UK while publicly ridiculing it with venom and bile. That’s the hypocrisy.

How do they “profit off the U.K”? Seems to me the establishment you say they profit from is trying to damage their ability to work and make money.
If it’s the court case where they were awarded damages after a judge ruled that the British Government acted illegally that you’re talking about then no, they gave every penny away. Not much profit there and they donated half the award to a community who identify as staunchly British but I can see how “Kneecap hate British people” is a more convenient angle.

 

[Lazarus]

Imagine finding out that a teacher, supposed to be educating your child and supporting them to grow as people was spouting Get the Brits Out and waving a Hezbollah flag and encouraging people to kill your MP?
You’d want them struck off. Doubly so if they were Muslim - you’d call them an extremist and wouldn’t want them near your kids.

 

[Lazarus]

It’s the refusal to be a victim

In what sense is he a victim?

 

[MaryLou32]

Imagine finding out that a teacher, supposed to be educating your child and supporting them to grow as people was spouting Get the Brits Out and waving a Hezbollah flag and encouraging people to kill your MP?
You’d want them struck off. Doubly so if they were Muslim - you’d call them an extremist and wouldn’t want them near your kids.

it’s mad that you think someone’s political beliefs has any bearing on them being able or fit to do their job.
If you can’t grasp how artists might be somewhat performative and you find it difficult to separate that from real life, then I’d suggest you don’t ever watch tv or film, read books, consume art, comedy shows etc cos you’ll be in for a mad shock

 

[Iosphere]

The vast majority of people in NI want to move on but this narrative keeps sectarianism alive. I’m not saying it’s limited to kneecap, it happens on both sides but it’s horrific and breeds violence.

 

[monga]

The vast majority of people in NI want to move on but this narrative keeps sectarianism alive. I’m not saying it’s limited to kneecap, it happens on both sides but it’s horrific and breeds violence.

Yeah it does but only platformed as one sided .Arlene is this lot’s biggest supporter

 

[monga]

In what sense is he a victim?

The person I quoted seems to think victimhood is rife amongst republicans I was just correcting them .

 

[Lazarus]

Yeah it does but only platformed as one sided .Arlene is this lot’s biggest supporter

Let me be clear: these flabby, flute playing, white gloved simpletons are every bit as bad in my opinion. Tawdling along the streets protesting about something that happened more than 300yrs ago. There’s wankers on both sides keeping this going.

Kneecap are wankers, but so are these lot. I’m not biased in my opinions on one side or t’other.

 

[monga]

Let me be clear: these flabby, flute playing, white gloved simpletons are every bit as bad in my opinion. Tawdling along the streets protesting about something that happened more than 300yrs ago. There’s wankers on sides keeping this going.

Kneecap are wankers, but so are these lot. I’m not biased in my opinions on one side or t’other.

Yeah that may be acceptable in other parts of UK but not in NI where our towns are literally brought to a standstill whilst these bigots shout publicly how they want to be up to their knees in our blood, fully supported by politicians and funded by the British government…That’s the difference!

 

[Veronicaaa]

Yeah that may be acceptable in other parts of UK but not in NI where our towns are literally brought to a standstill whilst these bigots shout publicly how they want to be up to their knees in our blood, fully supported by politicians and funded by the British government…That’s the difference!

And anyone who has been paying the slightest attention to what's been going on in Israel/Palestine can see the parallels.

 

[Lazarus]

Yeah that may be acceptable in other parts of UK but not in NI where our towns are literally brought to a standstill whilst these bigots shout publicly how they want to be up to their knees in our blood, fully supported by politicians and funded by the British government…That’s the difference!

I’ll not say which part of west central Scotland I hail from but I assure you, it’s the same there. I’m convinced these are the types of people who believe the Pope is a Celtic supporter and the King is a Rangers supporter. It’s embarrassing. I’m so glad to have moved away from it.

St Patrick’s Day festivals that go on for days, then Orange walks that just sap the soul out of me.
Nobody benefits from this culture yet we all have to pay for the policing of both events. wicks. Absolute wicks.

There’s a town not far from where I came from, where the pharmacy light couldn’t even be green because it kept getting smashed. Green pharmacy lights are international. Apart from in some backwater town!

 

[minimaz]

The vast majority of people in NI want to move on but this narrative keeps sectarianism alive. I’m not saying it’s limited to kneecap, it happens on both sides but it’s horrific and breeds violence.

It makes me so sad to see so many stories about sectarianism in NI recently, for example this weekend https://www.thejournal.ie/three-boys-attacked-in-derry-sectarian-violence-6689954-Apr2025/

I remember post GFA, Omagh etc thinking that it was all mostly resolved and people were coexisting happily despite everything that had happened, save a few die hards and then seeing the Holy Cross school girls being tormented when I wasn't long out of primary school myself led me to realise it went a lot deeper than I could imagine and the troubles would never be over for some people.

 

[Wee Nora]

Imagine finding out that a teacher, supposed to be educating your child and supporting them to grow as people was spouting Get the Brits Out and waving a Hezbollah flag and encouraging people to kill your MP?
You’d want them struck off. Doubly so if they were Muslim - you’d call them an extremist and wouldn’t want them near your kids.

Hardly that shocking when you consider a sitting MP in the House of Commons congratulated Loyalist terrorists when they murdered a Sinn Fein politician and called for civilian Nationalists to be “exterminated”? That was Sammy Wilson MP, who stood on his soapbox yesterday in the HOC delivering a lengthy rant about Kneecap inciting violence.
I must’ve missed the hysteria about his comments. It’s also not too long ago he was calling for guerrilla warfare on our streets over the consequences of Brexit. Tumbleweed

Selective outrage and pearl clutching is all it is. Not aiming that at you btw but at anyone who has their knickers in a twist about Kneecap but can’t muster a single word about a literal genocide.

 

[MaryLou32]

The vast majority of people in NI want to move on but this narrative keeps sectarianism alive. I’m not saying it’s limited to kneecap, it happens on both sides but it’s horrific and breeds violence.

Yeah, it goes deep. The separate schooling system, the political system of power sharing and mandatory coalition, leading to numerous Stormont collapses and petty political point scoring.

It’s hard to find balance, I try my best but it’s hard not to get riled. Especially when accused or republican victimhood…. But anyway.

Recently I had a conversation with a friend who happens to be a unionist, about dual language signage in Grand Central Station, they argued Irish language was only representative of republicanism and if dual language signs were going up then there absolutely needed to be a union flag.

My response was fire away, throw it up. I couldn’t give a duck about a flag, it doesn’t threaten me, I see union flags every day and get on with my life. That flag doesn’t represent me, I feel no affinity or loyalty to that it but can I look past it and get on with my day? Yes. It’s not difficult.

But could they accept that actually in one way or another they already speak the Irish language every single day through placenames and the language belongs to all (see Linda Ervine, Kyle Paisley and even the bleeping OO)
No, total unequivocal unacceptence and denial.
Because of ‘every word spoken is a bullet’ blah blah bleeping blah. A quote from what…40 years ago being used as a valid reason. And no current positive leadership on the matter from unionist politicians.
This is a really basic and what should be straightforward issue now Irish is a recognised language in NI and would bring us in line with the UK, but as usual, ‘themmuns’ want it so it’s a no from unionism.
This is one example- point scoring exists on both sides of course but duck it’s frustrating.