I think it's also revenge for her being arrested over the restraining order. She had her phone taken etc and would probably have been humiliated so I think she wanted to inflict some of that on Kieran. Funny isn't it, that after breaking the RO involving Michelle the 2nd time and being warned she was close to jail she's focussed more on Kieran.This gun saga (and all the latest) is the ultimate revenge for when her access was limited after slapgate. She'd probably been concocting his punishment for quite sometime.
Weird that MP and CW like each others posts though.
I really feel for you, Brah. The frustration you must feel when you do everything in your power to help only for the court to throw it all out in the blink of an eye. No wonder you're having a rethink. I imagine every day is a very thankless task. Just know you're appreciated, by us lot, at least.****LONG POST ALERT ****
PLEASE SKIP IF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE LEGAL SIDE/CHILDREN'S SERVICES
A lot of tattlers have been asking if children's services are involved. I can't give a definitive answer, because I simply don't know, but based on years of experience I would hazard an educated guess that they will be involved in some guise. A strat meeting (S47, children's act) will undoubtedly be triggered on Tuesday morning to discuss the latest allegations against KH. He has children living in his home, and firearms and child neglect will automatically trigger an investigation (as it should). However, the police are not sufficiently concerned to exercise their rights to remove children via police protection. I'm certain KH's brief will have been clear that he is permitted to share that he is with the children today - that's a concrete "fuck off to Kipper."
I bet children's services are sick to the back teeth of this case against KH and MP. They have far more important things to be doing. Kipper is simply trying to get something to stick on KH but sees herself as untouchable (which will be very frustrating). They will undoubtedly have KH and MP consistently complying, attending all the core group/Child in need meetings, and thoroughly engaged in the process. Then they will have the stark contrast of KFP, who is continually out of the country and will think she is above engaging with lowly social workers 'cos she is a model with 25 years experience innit'.
If J&B are on a CP plan, children's services have a statutory duty to visit every ten working days with a combination of announced and unannounced visits. I bet several of these visits are outstanding at the MM. To be clear I don't know if they're currently subject to a CP plan, but I would bet my life they have been in the past (#slapgate)
I would guess her utter contempt for social workers could be her undoing. They will issue pre-proceedings if she doesn't comply (PLO - public law outline). However, as I have reiterated countless times, it's the judge's decision. Suffice it to say, I am often shocked when family court judges side with the parent whom CS has very real and significant reasons to remove the children.
I do my job to the best of my ability - I never want to recommend the removal of children unless it's unavoidable, but I need them to be safe. I prepare the best case, speak to the children to get their wishes and feelings and appoint the best CAFCASS court guardian I can find. I demonstrate coercive control if appropriate (and it very often is) with significant evidence to avoid the 'this has reasonable doubt scenario.'
Still, many judges do nothing and let vulnerable children down. I truly believe that family courts need a shake-up and radical modernisation.
We see a real seachange when something headline worthy happens. Then children's services become risk-averse to the point of ridiculous. Thankfully there haven't been recent cases, but sadly there will be, and KFP will hate the risk-averse approach they take.
I am watching with interest. I have a contact who knows what is happening, but I will not ask him as the family court is private, and for a good reason. However, last night I was told that KH would be released and be smiling. I'm glad that happened.
Have faith, Krusties.
I am rethinking my career tonight, not because of what has happened over the last 48 hours, but because it's a constant battle I simply can't win.
And that is playing into KH's hands. Kipper s too thick to ralsie this though.I’m also involved in this line of work and to me, it looks like the S47 after slapgate generated a CP plan that meant KP had supervised access via AFP. When CW wasn’t charged, the plan eventually ended, went to CIN, then prob stepped down and almost exactly a year or so later KP took the kids from KH.
This time round (before his arrest) I don’t think it would have been a 47, but probably MASH/s17 raised and possibly the outcome was it’s a civil court matter for parents to battle it out in court, so no CP plan was in place. Possibly CIN… or TAF. Now it will be a 47, but everything is closed so those reports won’t even get done by GP/school nursing team till Tuesday/Wed and then it will be looked at.
KP seems to be claiming Jett has special needs/mental health problems so she’s probably hiding behind a long CAMHS wait list and this is her justification for not sending him to school.
IME this will need to be sorted out in court, and I don’t think SS will be leading the proceedings against either party it will be KHvsKP and indeed have CAFCASS involvement level. And this can take ages. KP is trying to get something to stick to KH but also probably delaying court proceedings with endless delays and not complying and it could take YEARS for progress to be made in this way, she will try to wait it out with the ages of the kids and using the PA to keep KH from gaining any traction with the kids
One I found yesterday and thought it's probably her real self....Evil just landed. Pure evil. I gotta take the pictorial piss out of her to curb the anger, can’t believe her arrogance in that video, she’s a real nasty bit of work, honesty I think this is her soul laid bare…
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Yes! She's desperately trying to make out Kieran is everything that she actually is.I think it's also revenge for her being arrested over the restraining order. She had her phone taken etc and would probably have been humiliated so I think she wanted to inflict some of that on Kieran. Funny isn't it, that after breaking the RO involving Michelle the 2nd time and being warned she was close to jail she's focussed more on Kieran.
Part of her issue is not turning up to things and not planning ahead which she has now blamed on ADHD, so another thing to hide behind. If KH can get a judge to enforce some drug testing for KP this might be his best bet right now, but now he’s so distant from the kids he’s only going on instinct and has little proof (that video of her on TV might help). She’s been careful not to get caught doing anything and probably hides it better from Bunny nowAnd that is playing into KH's hands. Kipper s too thick to ralsie this though.
That's strat I would love t be sitting in on!
Thank you, this sounds really positive.Katie Price #264 Mucky Mansion still pongs, meanwhile Kipper looks like Little Britains Ting Tong!
OMG, it says child neglect on the Daily Looking Glass https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/breaking-kieran-hayler-arrested-suspicion-29664116tattle.life
I need to be really careful. All I can say is don't believe what the red tops report re what Kipper instigates. It's all going to be ok.
She has nothing, and it's backfiring spectacularly.
Keep the faith.
The Sun cannot even get the childrens' ages correct.LatestKatie Price slams 'disgusting' ex Kieran after arrest for child neglect
KATIE Price has slammed her ex-husband Kieran Hayler as a “disgusting human being” after his arrest. The mum-of-five also claimed the two children she shares with Hayler have been livin…www.thesun.co.uk
Aww the poor bairn looks like he is crying,the evil wrench can’t keep her mouth shut as soon as one of her ex’s have something against them she’s there stirring the pot, the whole time Kieran had those kids he never once commented on her alleged offences amd the one time he did sink boy had a rant about it, if she really wanted to put those kids first she should have declined to comment, how anyone can support her beggars believe.
And Bunny is sunburnt again.… she is never in proper fitting supportive shoes either. Always those stupid fluffy sliders or flip flops.Has it just threw an old jumpers of hers on bunny ffs
You are the best PhoebsI really feel for you, Brah. The frustration you must feel when you do everything in your power to help only for the court to throw it all out in the blink of an eye. No wonder you're having a rethink. I imagine every day is a very thankless task. Just know your appreciated, by us lot, at least.
She kind of gave herself away there though, what she really should have said was that she couldn't comment as she didn't know the details! Nothing has been said about what the supposed child neglect was, so why would she think he was disgusting? I know that's her general opinion of him anyway but she was stupid to say it to the press.So she labels Kieran as disgusting, in front of his children. That’s disgusting and emotionally abusive. Hopefully that comment will be used as evidence of emotional abuse at the next hearing. What the hell else does she say to them about 50% of their DNA. She is an appalling person.
That would be my advice. Concrete evidencePart of her issue is not turning up to things and not planning ahead which she has now blamed on ADHD, so another thing to hide behind. If KH can get a judge to enforce some drug testing for KP this might be his best bet right now, but now he’s so distant from the kids he’s only going on instinct and has little proof (that video of her on TV might help). She’s been careful not to get caught doing anything and probably hides it better from Bunny now
Unfortunately although majorly shitty, parents disliking each other and making up (unsubstantiated or otherwise) claims against each other is more in the realms of family court, not social services
Especially when she flew into Stanstead, not exactly a usual pap hangout is it?Ah, the 'reason'!
Not 'reasons for the reason'!
Just a 'reason'.
Made sure backgrid were there and of course the media to ask the obvious question as to be an excuse for being obtuse whilst slandering him at the same time in front of the kids.
Funny how she can be unseen leaving the country and then make sure she's spotted coming back when the grenade she's tossed has exploded.
The whole shenanigans with the latest allegations made to the Police and it's coverage by the media is to add to the, woe is me, my MH, recovering from suicide attempts and have to rescue my children from the monster that is KH, how can you take my home off of me or expect me to pay creditors when this has happened to ME, again.
Must be about time for another rape claim.
So fucking predictable!
Performative parenting at its finest. I've got one of them, all big hugs and jazz hands in the street when he picks the children up
It’s like a black hole, consuming everything in its pathHaving a lovely Easter Day out, just popped on for an update, seems not much info so far after a quick scan through, perhaps more will be revealed later. Sat in a cafe, just made this, felt a need to take the piss out of the vile Skank, reaching new levels of dreadful harmful pathetic behaviour now, shes so Yuck….
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It is. But Im sorry I can't say anymore.Thank you, this sounds really positive.
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