Kate - its_not_kates_time

[WellAndWealthyBossBabe]

I bet taking your daily walks around a gated, upscale neighborhood in a tropical resort town on the other side of the world while indulging an 8 week wellness retreat paid for entirely by other people really helped your mindset, hey Kate? I just can’t with this entitled ignorance.

Ok…this video has completely flipped how I thought about Kate. 1. The story is ludicrous and completely unbelievable (in 9 months he didn’t have any scans?) and 2. Why do people have to donate thousands if you can just think your way out of it Kate? Initially I was sympathetic to her story and thought that if you want to stick coffee up your bum because you have exhausted modern medicine then go for it. However I now think there is something very very wrong with this woman and it’s not cancer. Like others I believe she had cancer, not at the stage she said it was at, and now no longer does BUT what she learned along the way is that people give a lot of attention and money for such a diagnosis. I would hate to think she is a con woman of the worst kind but I can’t shake the feeling that there is something very very wrong here.

 

[notgifted]

So.... even if she has sometimes shared details about the EVIDENCE BASED medical treatment she has received, this is not how she portrays her story on her IG. This is not what she credits for her "recovery".
She actively declines to be specific about what treatments she receives or summarise them. Instead she directs people who ask for details to trawl through hundreds of posts and captions and comments to see for themselves because "she has been so open and transparent". See this comment on one of her "I beat terminal cancer, yay me!" posts for example
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If she honestly wanted to tell her followers that she takes an effective targeted immunomodulator that is an easy reply... but instead she directs this person to consume hours of quackery propaganda.

We see the problem, yes?

That’s the exact issue I have, just be upfront about the actual western medicine that’s saved her, it’s not hard is it.

 

[FingerMouse]

Hmmmm….
Her doctor in London gave the Australian radiology clinic permission to give her results on site.
Read Tattle much, Kate?

It's all such a load of smoke and mirrors bullshit, as if her doctor in London has any jurisdiction over what the clinic does or doesn't do.

She's really doubling down on her praise and promotion of that clinic isn't she? Do you reckon they waived or discounted their fee in return for promo?

 

[I_Fricking_Love_It]

Just because Kate says her superfund has accepted her terminal illness paperwork to access her super doesn't mean any paperwork has actually been submitted, she can say anything she likes really, whose to actually know for a fact, she could write up and print out a letter that she has fudged up herself. She's an actress and is giving her beleivers a great show straight out of the play books of Belle Gibson and Amanda Reilly, the sympathy vote after the I'm cured, oh wait no I'm dying again, hang on I'm cured, now I feel terrible but please buy my 20c necklace that I will sell you for $50, oh wait I'm dying again but a coffee hose up my ass will save me.
I'm not buying her for a second, she's lying.

I found the Scamanda podcast absolutely riveting. Clearly these people are mentally unwell and has me questioning every single person and every single go fund me. You are right. They can say whatever they want and followers are none the wiser. What makes me suspicious is how well she always looks. Among other things.

 

[EveryDaysASoulDay]

I will drop this article here that I previously linked last month.

Hope4Cancer is mentioned in the article. Which also points out that it’s ironically through GoFundMe that these places have been able proliferate, charging way more for their scams than the normal person could pay on their own. With crowdsourcing being so prevalent though and donors being so generous it’s not a problem anymore.

The myriad of other reviews I came across at the time described Hope4Cancer as a complete sham of a clinic that charges exorbitant sums for unproven, unregulated, dangerous and deadly therapies, as Pablo also pointed out. The guy who runs it isn’t even board certified in oncology. He sucks money out of desperate cancer patients who frequently pass away not long after leaving the facility, sadly. He oftentimes convinces them to shun western medicine and tells them radiation and chemo will kill them faster than the cancer and his therapies will save their lives. It is all so upsetting.

Before you support a fundraiser for a cancer patient, read this

Beware of clinics selling ‘pioneering’ cancer treatments, writes David Robert Grimes

www.irishtimes.com

 

[saaahhhhreal]

Thank you so much for this explanation, it’s so clear and I really appreciate it.

I hope it helps, I may have been half asleep and its riddled with shitty gramer and spelling errors haha
but the point is ultrasound is not used to detect cancer, and never to stage it. If something suspicious was found on ultrasound, you would then get an MRI or CT to confirm and then a PET depending.
Of course every patient is different, as is every cancer and every doctor, BUT, ultrasound is NEVER used to detect or stage cancer. If that stupid mexico bullshit 5 star quak fest is using it, its because no trained radiologist or radiographer is going to go along with this bullshit and I dont know but I would suspect buying a MRI or CT, and using it, wouldn't be that easy for a bunch of fakes?
Ultrasound though, wave the wand around, no danger, you can buy it easily and when you show people ultrasounds, even doctors with a lot of experience, it's really really hard to read them. I imagine they use them as proof, "look, there is nothing there", because tricking a patient with a blurry difficult to read ultrasound image, is a lot easier then a very obvious MRI or CT image
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Thank you! So when Kate is talking about “scans” she had there they are actually useless scan that give false hope? Because didn’t she get a “scan” that showed 9 of her 10 brain tumours had disappeared?

Ill shut up now but here are some examples of ultrasound vs MRI of the brain and liver, and why I think they use ultrasound. It's really difficult to lie with MRI or CT images, where as ultrasound is hard to read for people who are not trained, you might see something, but it could be easily explained in a way that makes it sound like its shrunk or getting better or, you could just skip scanning that area properly and get no image of something that is actually there
MRI and CT are going to show the patient who knows what their original imaging looked like, that nothing has changed, if anthing its progressed

 

[aussieanonforlyf]

Notice how she always says "do your own googling"?
It really bugs me. As a scientist we have one rule, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. You cant make these claims and then tell other people to do the research. Thats not how science and medicine and facts work.
That reel she posted the girl said "its been studied" i literally couldnt find any peer reviewed literature on it telling me the benefits of it compared to chemo. And every nutter in the comments is saying its bc big pharma make money of treating people with cancer. THEN STOP USING MEDICINE. Lets see how long you live. Arghhhhhhhhh i haveng dedicated the last 13 years of my life to cancer research in different fields to have cunts like this minimise it as "big pharma making money"

All those people who in Covid were “don’t trust medical people. Evil” etc etc. First to use that evil system when something is really wrong - see Taylor W when her son was sick, see Leila in and out of ambulances for imaginary diseases. WHICH IS IT GUYS? They don’t know what they’re doing and we shouldn’t trust them or don’t trust them when you can get content out of it but Aok when something is actually wrong? FUCKING HYPOCRITE SCAMMERS THE LOT OF THEM.

 

[loveinfluenzas]

There cannot be a terminal cancer story where you're riddled with cancer especially in your brain then it magically disappears twice and you're this spritely. She has conned all of the people who donated to her, she is a crazy con artist

 

[somanyteeth]

Agree. She believes all this pseudo science that antibiotics give you depression. Kate, if you were so healthy to begin with from all your enemas and self dosing of blue shit you wouldn't have gotten that infection and needed to be on IV antibiotics. But by all means, discharge yourself you ungrateful cunt. You'll end up dead and then you know who will actually be depressed? Your daughter who will end up an orphan. So fuck you. Get off social media and pretending you know best. Idiot.

 

[GeorgieBox]

It was frustrating and also very sad to watch her quite despondent about her hospital admission… I really don’t think she grasps the gravity of getting simple infections when she’s so immunocompromised.

 

[somanyteeth]

Haha well thank you all i feel flattered

I do love this thread. Its nice to find likeminded people who believe in actual science.
@GeorgieBox put it perfectly, its the first time something happened simultaneously (and also since the world has access to social media at the same time) it created this ridiculous scenario of anti science rhetoric which has now proved to be fatal.
But while people like Kate get rich we just off grifting we just have to hope that people start to believe in science again more widely.

 

[emmygluewho]

Maybe the “quackery“ is just pure desperation to live!

Yet extremely harmful to people in the same situation.

It's pure quackery.

 

[Bushpig81]

It's interesting, there was a gap inbetween posts, then a 'oh hi, I see my story was picked up on tiktok, I don't post here much'.. then the book post, then the cancer came back. Then the gfm.
I also feel icky, but the timing is interesting.

 

[StickyTapeTits]

**reposting from the Crazy Stead Thread**

I’ve said it before, but if you haven’t already listened to the Scamanda podcast, you must. Whilst I imagine it’s hard to fathom anyone would use serious illness to lie, deceive, and gain financially… it is absolutely possible, as Amanda Reilly’s case proves.

I haven’t yet seen Pablo’s investigation, but I am a proud critical thinker, and something seems very off about Kate’s cancer. I wish I didn’t, but I have too many friends that have had this insidious disease in their bodies, and I am all too familiar with the symptoms. She said she had 10 - TEN! - brain tumours. And 9 of them have just……. disappeared? Any kind of mass in the brain can have a serious impact on mobility, speech, vision, hearing etc. yet she showed no symptoms? What am I missing? Happy to be informed and/corrected by someone with a relevant qualification.

 

[somanyteeth]

I skimmed through Kate's page... here's some of the red flags I found

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If you need a port for cancer treatment in Australia you don't need to fight or pay for it. IV vit C and curcumin are not cancer treatments, that's woo woo shit.

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More woo placebo nonsense... this is not how the body works, it's not even remotely anatomically correct to suggest that an enema of any kind can do anything to your liver. Her reference to needles and meds though is completely vague.

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This is SHOCKINGLY dangerous, and this idea of "sneaking up on cancer cells with insulin" is merely a theory. Not proven.

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Fenbendazole is also not a cancer treatment, it is used to treat parasites.

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This is the only mention of an actual proven medication I saw referenced.

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Her followers often say they follow in her footsteps in their own fights with cancer.

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Including making choices for a kid.... tragically it didn't "save her life...

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Hopefully this little girl was at home with her family and not in a foreign country at that scam clinic at the end.


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Gross, irresponsible behaviour.

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Is this what she believes causes cancer??

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This is not a role she is qualified for... clearly. It's dangerous that she has elevated herself to this position of "cancer survivor expert"


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This is the pair of "Doctors" she tagged in her relapse post (which sounded very vague and suspect to me honestly) their pages portray them to be immunologists MAYBE, but definitely anti-vax conspiracy theorists.

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And lastly.... she's leaning hard into her story, looking to continue profiting off of it perhaps. (Although, probably not with that small fry production team, but whatever)

This person is full of SHIT. Whether she has cancer or not, she's bloody dangerous.

Ive only just discovered this thread thanks to my friend who sent it to me and Ive been wanting to say all of this somewhere but thanks @DunningKrugerEffect for making this so clear and succinct and I think everyone can understand this!

This woman doesnt have cancer. I am a "cancer scientist" (i say it that way as its easier to explain) and my patients who used to be terminal on phase 1 studies did not look like her.
I am sure she said her cancer was terminal hence H4C being her only option but there is absolutely no way and I say this with 100000% certainty that the woowoo shit she is doing, is not shrinking her cancers. She probably never had cancer.

Has she ever said what cancer she had? I only learned from her from leila and pablo and I dont think I ever learned what cancer she has? I know she has tumours on her brain but Im sure she said she had mets on her lungs? I see she was on Alectinib so I assume she has non-small cell lung cancer. Was this her first line? Or second line?
Was she ever on ipilimumab or nivolumab?
Alectinib had (i havent been up to date on this) a 35 month progression free survival period. So if she was on Alectinib then she may not have been terminal and now its all just a scam so she can holiday in tijuana. So scammy.
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Everything you’ve said is spot on!
I find it extremely misleading that you very RARELY hear her speak about the targeted immunotherapy drug she has been on for past 5 years, not to mention the fact that she is now on a different targeted drug for the secondary brain tumours. I personally know someone who has the same non small cell lung cancer with secondary brain tumours and has been taking targeted therapy for about 3 years now and is doing great! The therapy is quite new but had a lot of success in the human clinical trials and seems to work extremely well for the type of cancer Kate has.. so I agree it’s the immunotherapy keeping her alive and the Mexico quackery is simply complimentary therapy which probably makes her feel great but that’s it! (Can’t say a couple coffee enemas with a side of dog worming tablets would be my idea of heaven but each to their own)

Can you pls let me know what the second targeted chemo she is on is?

 

[Lovely]

For all the bullshit word salad she can talk about Mexico, she's actually a very bad liar when asked a direct question. As soon as any interviewer asks her questions about her actual medication, she immediately starts stuttering and can barely get a sentence out. It's very, very obvious that she's obfuscating about her targeted treatment because she's determined to have everyone believe that Mexico has 'cured' her (again ).

 

[EveryDaysASoulDay]

Thats interesting because from what I’ve gathered so far she seems very antagonistic towards traditional medicine so that definitely fits.

I started going through her feed from the very beginning to try to get a better grasp on this woman. So far I’ve only gotten as far as early 2019 after her second trip to H4C (apparently there have been several).

At any rate, I found this post interesting. In preparation for a visit back to the UK for the holidays at the end of 2018 she had been reaching out to the local hospital there trying to get them to agree to give her access to their hyperbaric oxygen chamber because she has been convinced by her quack practitioners (she called them “oncology specialists”) that it helps. They refused, of course, because she doesn’t know what the fuck she’s talking about and they have patients with a legitimate need for the treatment so naturally they weren’t going to let her saunter in and use them for free and take the access away from their patients. Not only was she so petulant about being refused access that she had to post to her followers bitching about them but she also had the audacity to lodge a complaint against the hospital, I’m assuming with the NHS.

She seems to be quite the entitled, nasty piece of work.

 

[Lovely]

The necklaces on Kates website states sterling silver. Aliexpress necklaces are not. Therefore it’s unlikely she sourced them from Ali express, unless she is lying about what they are made out of.

I think it's pretty likely that she's saying sterling silver to just mean 'silver'. Given her general approach to facts, which is flexible at best, I doubt she's sourcing the necklaces with the highest quality in mind. In any case, a reverse image search of the necklace all leads back to AliExpress.

It could be that, for sure. But it is quackery nonetheless. I think the primary problem that most of the commenters on this thread have is that she is promoting this dangerous clinic and these dangerous treatments to huge audiences that believe her. It’s irresponsible, unethical and immoral, IMO. And that’s assuming she’s really as sick as she claims and not even taking into account that she may be lying. That’s a whole other issue.

Exactly...in her most recent stories, she's talking about using a banned substance that's derived from apricot seeds and calling it a great cancer fighter (even though apricot seeds as a cancer cure has been widely debunked and is potentially very dangerous). This woman is peddling serious nonsense.

 

[marthamartyr]

The story she made earlier in the week about hoping to be NED by the end of the week but giving herself to end of the year… was all a pre cursor to build up the anticipation knowing what lie she was going to spin. She is honestly scum

 

[EveryDaysASoulDay]

"check my stories for an update"
Her stories - either she has zero insight into what is happening, maybe she's a simpleton, OR she is rambling about disconnected nonsense so that she doesn't have to live in reality but still wants to milk her followers for her gain.
She is so unwell that she can't muster the strength to get her inhaler or open her front gate..... But just rests through the night till some random takes her for an x-ray, because that's clearly going to fix things. Whatever quack clinic she was at told her to get in an ambulance, but she says oh absolutely not, that's not happening. Then she takes herself to the emergency department. She ends up in ICU, she's rambling about lung pain, broken ribs, metastases in her ribs, then low blood pressure when she sleeps. She is either refusing to put pieces together so she can stay in her lala-grifter-land.... Or she's dumb as rocks! I guarantee she is getting frequent updates about what's actually going on, and why she is I'll. She is refusing to acknowledge or accept it.
What a whack job. Jesus Christ if I walked by a bedside in my ICU and saw some anti-science grifter updating their Instagram stories, sounding a fool like that... FML, immediate discharge. GTFO. And then to follow it up with "click this link to buy tickets for a festival I can't go to now!" Kthnxbyeeeeee

Without having watched her stories yet, what you’ve just described sounds a lot like the mania coming from Jesse ”Boss Lee” Ward in her Insta lives in the days just before she died from her cancer, telling everyone how much pain she was in but still sticking to the story that she was being cured by the snakeoil she spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on.