Kanye West

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He had a huge bipolar breakdown.

I’m not quite sure why this is different from the incident at the Baftas last month where an offensive word was shouted.

People have disabilities which sometimes make them behave in ways they deeply regret. He’s apologised. He has well documented florid mental problems

So are we going to just discriminate against people with inconvenient disabilities now?
 
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Wireless in is Finsbury Park in North London, it’s the vicinity to huge Jewish populations and communities like Muswell Hill, Finchley and St John’s Wood.
It’s just not appropriate.
 
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Kanye is an hole.

good riddance to him. what he says is bad. he sells shirts with swastikas on. he spreads hate.

an apology? meh. he could do much more to undo the damage he has caused.

too many people around Kanye say yes, he is not used to ‘no’. I hope this sends a clear message that his behaviour is not tolerated.
 
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He had a huge bipolar breakdown.

I’m not quite sure why this is different from the incident at the Baftas last month where an offensive word was shouted.

People have disabilities which sometimes make them behave in ways they deeply regret. He’s apologised. He has well documented florid mental problems

So are we going to just discriminate against people with inconvenient disabilities now?
I think there's a difference here. One guy with Tourettes was at a place where he said something unexpected and involuntary where they were celebrating awards. Whereas Kanye was being paid a lot of money when he's already been incredibly insensitive and unstable on an international level at a time where anti Jew sentiment is rife. Two very different scenarios. Kanye should not have been booked for this and is repeatedly given a huge platform when he's already caused a lot of harm. The organisers knew the controversy of his views and still chose money over sensitivity. Many other talented acts could have been chosen instead.
 
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Why did Wireless book him in the first place? I find the organisers motives in this to be questionable.

I am relieved that he won’t be performing - I feel that the correct decision was made (for once).

We are experiencing serious attacks against Jewish communities. Allowing him to perform, would have sent out an appalling message.
 
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Why did Wireless book him in the first place? I find the organisers motives in this to be questionable.
That's the real question, why is anyone booking him anywhere, for anything? Whether we accept his mental health issues or not, he doesn't need a platform, more attention, and further help spreading his nonsense.

Is anyone even interested in the music he's putting out now?
 
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he was booked for financial reasons.

I don’t think it’s fair to blame his views on mental health. I think it is just his character, his ego, him.

he has wealth beyond his wildest dreams, a naked idiot wife with whom he lives out his control fetish in plain sight amongst his kids.

Kanye has a loyal fan base, and can finance his shows and lifestyle easily.

he has a paid entourage who will limit damage as much as they can.

I’m kind of proud the UK told him to duck off, it’s quite humiliating for him!
 
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Yel

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None of the other European countries he's performing at for this summer tour have banned him, as far as I'm aware. It's only the UK media that turned this into a huge story and made it the priority of Keir Starmer who is puppet on a string and should be dealing with the million and one other more important issues.

He's been unwell and not had a manic outburst for a while.

If he had stood by his comments then it would have been the right thing to ban him, but he took out that ad to say sorry and performed recently to say lets put that all behind us.

A knee jerk decision.
 
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We've gone so woke that actual protected characteristics (mental illness) are no longer protected, and apologies no longer count for anything, which I think sets a very dangerous precedent. I've got first hand experience with someone with bipolar disorder and there is no choice in what they're doing or saying whilst in a manic episode. It's been a repeated cycle with Kanye because he believes he can't write music whilst medicated so gets frustrated and comes off his meds and then has another episode.
 
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I know many people with MH challenges, some medicated, some not.

how does it explain manufacturing swastika tshirts and selling them on a website, wearing them in public? that is a long drawn out process.

or writing and recording a track ‘Heil Hitler’, also a long drawn out process.

one could argue that it is now very ‘woke’ to attribute racism to MH challenges.

the hate mongering from Kanye has taken place over several years.

he is a talented music artist with or without medications. he definitely struggles with MH challenges but I do not believe that’s the reason for the hatred he spews.
 
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I know many people with MH challenges, some medicated, some not.

how does it explain manufacturing swastika tshirts and selling them on a website, wearing them in public? that is a long drawn out process.

or writing and recording a track ‘Heil Hitler’, also a long drawn out process.

one could argue that it is now very ‘woke’ to attribute racism to MH challenges.

the hate mongering from Kanye has taken place over several years.

he is a talented music artist with or without medications. he definitely struggles with MH challenges but I do not believe that’s the reason for the hatred he spews.
He doesn't have "mental health challenges" he has bipolar disorder. You've clearly never been around someone with it or experienced a manic episode which is fine, but if you had you'd understand. It causes actual psychosis... It's not like depression whereby you can take an SSRI once a day and feel brighter...
 
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I'm no expert but can't a manic episode last months? Long enough to release a tshirt.

We've reached a point where influencers and celebs will shout mental health to use as a shield the moment they start to receive negative attention, see Huw Edwards, so it's understandable that people don't trust it as an excuse.
 
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I am not bipolar but have been around those who are.

it’s a mental health condition that is challenging.

I believe Kanye is also autistic at least he spoke about that.

he also has a huge ego. he also has a paid entourage of head-nodders.

and a very public platform he could use for good.

the repeated anti-semiticism, the Nazi glorification, the Hitler adulation, it’s absolutely appalling, and he knows it is.
 
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I'm no expert but can't a manic episode last months? Long enough to release a tshirt.

We've reached a point where influencers and celebs will shout mental health to use as a shield the moment they start to receive negative attention, see Huw Edwards, so it's understandable that people don't trust it as an excuse.
Yes it can, and medication doesn't help straight away either
 
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He doesn't have "mental health challenges" he has bipolar disorder. You've clearly never been around someone with it or experienced a manic episode which is fine, but if you had you'd understand. It causes actual psychosis... It's not like depression whereby you can take an SSRI once a day and feel brighter...
I am diagnosed with bi-polar so you never which personality will come out. I am Jekyl and Hyde often but when I am up and manic I still don't go all Hilter is God and duck the Jews (hybrid Jew here) but I can be nasty Octopus or talking to the wallpaper happy.
 
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To be clear, I don't think his bipolar disorder completely explains his personality or behaviour as I do also believe he's an egotistical, power hungry idiot but I really struggle with "well an apology means nothing" when someone has a condition that causes psychosis and think it sets a very dangerous precedent
 
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I get that he has bipolar but I think this was the right call.

And totally asides, £11 million is bleeping appalling money to pay someone in this economic climate.
 
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If Kanye West is making the decision to not take medication for his bipolar disorder - as it affects his “creativity”, he is making that decision whilst he has full capacity. Knowing full well, that his behaviour whilst unmedicated will then cause harm to others.

Bipolar disorder is not an uncommon condition. Whilst psychosis can be part of the condition - it can’t be used as a blanket excuse for this man’s behaviour.
Whilst people can become very unwell with BP (usually when it is not clinically managed), there are countless people with the condition who are holding responsible jobs, caring for their families and taking responsibility for their actions.

I am not doubting that he has had periods of being very unwell, but I am questioning his responsibility in managing his condition and also suspect much of his behaviour is based on his own beliefs and character.

If his offensive behaviour is all down to his mental condition - and to allow him to “perform” at Wireless, would we have to sit and wait to discover if he has decided to take his medication or not? What if he decides that it is affecting his “creativity” and treats us to a series of anti semitic and racist rants?
He is not reliable and has plenty of previous.

I am tired of him. The recent reports of him with his trousers down on a boat in Italy, with his coerced wife performing fellatio on him. He covered her heard with a coat though - which is modest for him.
His relationship with his wife is disturbing and how he acts this out in public.

I wish people would stop making excuses for him, and consider the feelings of the communities he offends.

I’m offended by his behaviour, as a woman actually. It’s not a woke opinion. He is vile.
 
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