Thread #5 was exhausting. Thankfully, we have a week's break to recover and get ourselves ready for AH's cross-examination.
Still plenty to discuss in the meantime, though!
Still plenty to discuss in the meantime, though!
AH isn’t all women. JD isn’t all men.I was kind of hoping she would be able to convince me with some hard proof. Because the alternative that she's making it all up, is just extremely disturbing and sad for everyone. I don't want this trial to paint women as these overexaggerating hormonal beings with no credibility.
I do believe living with Depp must be hard. I would probably have left years ago with the constant drug use.
Of course not! But the outcome of this trial will undoubtedly create some sort of generalization in the public. Something in the vein of "you see, women do lie about this sort of stuff" seems plausible.AH isn’t all women. JD isn’t all men.
I understand where you’re coming from. Unfortunately, in fact, some women do lie about this stuff and they need to be called out.Of course not! But the outcome of this trial will undoubtedly create some sort of generalization in the public. Something in the vein of "you see, women do lie about this sort of stuff" seems plausible.
Women you say Dr Hughes?Thread #5 was exhausting. Thankfully, we have a week's break to recover and get ourselves ready for AH's cross-examination.
Still plenty to discuss in the meantime, though!
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I would bet my bottom dollar that this is very common. Men/one partner trying to leave getting a slap etc when woman/other partner doesn't want to let them do so and then shoving them out of the way. The women/partner think they are being abandoned and try to stop it. The men/partner are trying to get out so they can control emotion. I am trying not to be sexist.The bias between women v men in courts is a massive global problem.
I used to be close friends with a couple, both husband & wife, and towards the end of the marriage she made allegations of DV.
The incident in question was a heated argument between the couple as the husband was trying to leave the house n the wife insisted he stay and finish the argument. She proceeded to attack him with a set of car keys, blocking his path. He shoved her out the way. She ran out onto the street bare foot after him. He escaped into his car, and called me recalling the incident in a panic about what to do.
the wife at the same time called the police allegingDV. Police attended, noted no injuries, saw the wife being aggressive to her husband in their presence and actually wrote [wife appears to be aggressor in domestic dispute]
It makes me so angry and saddened to read stories like this. Sorry your friend went through this 🩹 Hopefully one day the little boy will reach out to him - I’m sure he knows just as well as his father how horrible his mother is xThe bias between women v men in courts is a massive global problem.
I used to be close friends with a couple, both husband & wife, and towards the end of the marriage she made allegations of DV.
The incident in question was a heated argument between the couple as the husband was trying to leave the house n the wife insisted he stay and finish the argument. She proceeded to attack him with a set of car keys, blocking his path. He shoved her out the way. She ran out onto the street bare foot after him. He escaped into his car, and called me recalling the incident in a panic about what to do.
the wife at the same time called the police allegingDV. Police attended, noted no injuries, saw the wife being aggressive to her husband in their presence and actually wrote [wife appears to be aggressor in domestic dispute]
No further action was taken, couple split up.
Amongst court proceedings wife demanded the 4 bed property for her & their child (wife was unemployed- left her job after child was born with her own will)
Wife also had immediate family living in the same town. She tried to serve him a non occupational order which she removed at the last min knowing husband could potentially default on mortgage payments putting them both in trouble. She also served him an ex parte non molestation order with details from the previous incident with the keys saying it was him beating her.
fastforward several months, new allegations emerged from her side, she refused to let him see the child without supervision, thus the court suggestion visits via a contact centre, (even tho the DV case was a no case to answer from the CPS) to progress onto solo visits.
mother breached court orders more than 5 times. (She failed to turn up to the contact centres, failed to hand child over, would disappear for weeks on end, each time resulting father in having to arrange an emergency court hearing)
Each time the wife got away with no consequences. In order to drag this further, wife asked for cafcass to get involved, and cafcass officer interviewed child who confirmed that mother told him strictly he was not allowed to play with his dad, as his mother has superpowers & can see everything he is doing. Child was clearly terrified of mum. In the final court hearing, a new judge was appointed, finally teared the mother & her solicitor apart for dragging this for 3 years, for inexcusable behaviour & influencing the child, issued joint custody immediately.
2 weeks later mother left the country to her native home promising joint contact.Wife blocks Him, he hasn’t seen his child for 5 years now, uk jurisdiction isn’t covered in their country.
although it’s a different case, it goes to show, that during those 3 years of around 13 court hearings, despite the solid evidence against her, the wife was given benefit of the doubt. Due to the delays, and benefits given to the wife in the face of false accusations, husband ultimately lost his child.
the husband has kept all the notes, witness statements, reports from cafcass (which detail what the child said about mum) all the threatening emails from the wife, all the text messages, in a file. When the child is old enough, sure enough their paths will cross again, father has more than enough evidence to make it clear what a toxic & helpless situation he was in.It makes me so angry and saddened to read stories like this. Sorry your friend went through this 🩹 Hopefully one day the little boy will reach out to him - I’m sure he knows just as well as his father how horrible his mother is x
thank god - for both gendersAH isn’t all women. JD isn’t all men.