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Sounds like Johnny did her a favour - I'd've gone after every penny plus interest if I was lied about in such a malicious, malevolent way.

And this is your reminder there is NO. SUCH. THING. as "his/her/your/my truth" - there is only the truth. And the truth here is that... she lied.
 
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Eye_Spy

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The one thing that really gets to me about the media is how they do report on the money side of it…but they haven’t pushed the very obvious extortion angle as they should have done. When she filed for divorce, her attorney made a threat in writing to have AH publicly accuse him of domestic violence unless he agreed to all financial terms within an extortion letter within just a few days. The fact that she only filed for the TRO after the demand for spousal support was refused PROVES she didn’t need one for personal safety reasons, he was out of the country on tour, and apparently she wasn’t scared of him immediately after the so-called attack, it took her over a week of talks with the attorney/publicist to decide on whether to get it. If she was afraid of him, getting a TRO would not have bee dependent on finances.

Shes claimed publicly to have been financially independent from him for the entire relationship (not even her sisters or friends were, there was freeloading going on everywhere), plus that she wanted nothing finally from the divorce.

She demanded full ownership of 3 penthouses, with all taxes and utilities paid for the rest of JDs life. Then, to add to the insult, she also demanded $44k per month for life as well…the breakdown of which included $10k for rent (why? If she had 3 penthouses, does she need a 4th property to live in?), £1k on utilities (yet he’s paying all utilities already). Plus she demand he pay for her groceries, eating out, clothes, the cost of the pets she is demanding custody of, costs of running car he has gifted her, and pay for her agent/pr which surely are a business cost which come out of her earnings,$10k a month on keeping her ‘entertained’ and pay for her laundry to be done. Plus for the rest of his life…she expects him to pay her £500 per month so that she can donate his money to charity and get the PR credit for it. Absolutely insane. All for a 15 month marriage.

Now even if he had thrown a phone and it hit it hit her in the face, the bruising was minor…and given the way she goads and gaslights him during times she knows she is being recorded on audio…I wouldn’t actually blame him for losing control and throwing something. What is clear, is that even if there was some form of violence from him, she had the ability to leave him at any moment, she was never afraid of him, chased him when he wanted a break from her, and she never had a single injury that required medical treatment or prevented her from going out in public (the only visible ‘injury’ was the one she used for the TRO, which moved positions on her face from an earlier photo, other witnesses said they didn’t see on her face on earlier days, plus it even looked like it could have been a nasty zit! This bruise, which was the crux of her demand letters and TRO…given how vital it was as evidence she didn’t do the sensible thing of getting it noted by a medical professional that it was indeed a real bruise and not makeup or a zit, she didn’t get herself properly photographed by her attorney/publicist immediately after the incident to ensure the injury it verified, she just took photos from a friend and didn’t even preserve the metadata so there no proof they were even taken on that day. The media didn’t even make much of story out of the fact that she has used identical photos, one of which was edited to make the injury appear worse, claiming they are taken on different days. There’s even cctv footage shortly before of her getting her sister to take practice swings at her face, as in she wants her to hit her, but not too hard…which the two of them don’t manage to do properly.

she even made him pay £500k accounting/attorney fees. This, from someone who claims to only have £25k in assets…why was she hiring such expensive attorneys if she clearly couldn’t pay their bills with her own money?

The media also, whenever they mention this case, usually fail to mention the £7m non-donation to charity. She claimed to already have donated it, which is really relevant because it’s backing up her claim that she didn’t extort money from him. She then claims she is going to pledge it over time to get the tax benefits. What is never made into a story by the media is that meant that she intended to gain up to $3.5m in tax reductions by spreading payments over 10 years, so was would have actually be gaining that amount from the divorce process! Plus, before donating she could have invested it for interest or on property and received rental income. Even if she had been making annual donations, which she didn’t even do, she would still have been making substantial gains from that money! Her attorney’s logic in why JD couldn’t make those donations directly was that AH wanted the tax benefits and didn’t want him to gain the tax benefits instead. But…if he had paid direct, the charities would have got the whole $7m promptly, it would have actually cost him $3.5m due to tax benefits, but in that scenario it still costs him money, he’s not ‘benefitting’ by spending $3.5m as it’s still higher than the post-nup would have calculated, but in that scenario AH gains nothing.

Her excuse of not making payments due to being sued, even though it was 13 moths between receiving all the money and being sued doesn’t make sense, yet the media don’t focus on that. They also very crucially, haven’t focussed on her being sued by the insurance companies who actually paid her legal fees. There are legal filing which prove that she did not pay $6m in legal costs for the fairfax case, proving she told a barefaced lie about it in court, that $7m is either spent on other things or still in her back account.

The DM running a front page story about a claim of Saudi bots last week is an absolute joke. JD appears to have gotten involved with Saudi’s in Sept 2022 as they offered money to prop up the budget which was going over during filming a movie…it all seems legit because they are doing film festivals and have culture plan in place to move toward investment in entertainment and tourism as a way to avoid reliance on income from oil. JD isn’t the only one attending the film festival and they are investing money all over the industry at the moment. That’s where this claim appears to have originated. Creating a 6 part podcast which uses contributes and a host who is clearly AH biased, plus a data scientist who is making these Saudi bot claims without revealing any actual evidence. There hasn’t been a single Saudi bot Twitter account named as an example and the host has repeatedly ignored requests to give any examples (probably because they don’t actually exist!). Which begs the question, why do the DM run that as front page…when there is no absolve evidence whatsoever that it has a shred of truth in it.
 
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shellie

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Anyone on any social media account at the time will have encountered the sudden tidal wave of pro Depp accounts. It had bot written all over it. The podcast covering the story is a reliable source too. Depp obviously has links to Saudi Arabia too.

Depp has decades of clearly aggressive behaviour going back to the 80s. This isn’t new information appearing out of nowhere.
Except quite a few looked into it and it was reported that she was the one who had loads of fake/ bot accounts supporting her.
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Both Depp and Heard were found to have defamed each other. People seem to want to forget it, but he did also lose the case against The Sun.
The one 'win' she got was because Adam had made a claim, not Johnny. As for Amber, she lost all three...I mean she openly admitted on the stand the article was about him even though she claimed there was no proof that it was.

And as for the Sun, it wasn't Depp v Heard, it was Depp v The Sun and all they had to do was prove they thought it was true to win, not that it was 100% true. I assume you read the daily transcripts of the UK trial and saw he got banned from being allowed witnesses that could have backed him up and whenever he said anything that contradicted her testimony, she got to change her version. Or the fact the actual judge called her out on stuff which is why many scratched their heads when he sided with the paper. The fact Wootten himself now says he believes was duped by her speaks volumes.
 
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I thought it was completely inappropriate for McGowan’s wife to mention Turd and Johnny should forgive her during the funeral.
 
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I actually went to the funeral yesterday as I'm a massive Shane McGowan fan. When she mentioned JD and Amber, the whole church shuffled in discomfort. Such a ridiculous thing to say.

That funeral was the most amazing funeral I've ever been to. Just beautiful ❤
 
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Do they really need to gag her though? The majority of the public don’t believe a word she says now anyway and you can see from the interview she did after the trial that she makes herself look worse every time she opens her mouth.
I don’t think his career will ever go back to how it was before but he’s doing a lot better than she is.
Realistically, Johnny is of an age where his career would naturally start winding down over the next few years or so. In that respect, Amber could never have done more damage than what age itself does to us all. No 60 year old actor is landing the same roles they were at 30 and I doubt many even want to.

What Amber was costing him was his memory. She knows that if she caused Johnny to never land a big role again, he wouldn’t starve or suffer. What would’ve caused him to suffer, would’ve been knowing that every time one of his movies was played, his characters mentioned, his name discussed - that people would immediately think “wife beater” “abuser” “bully” etc.

A lot of people would be able to ignore that and think “ha, well I made my millions to hell with what people think” but i don’t think Johnny would. He said from the start it wasn’t about money and I don’t think that just applied to the financial judgement on the case.

The career was important to Amber. And hopefully in her quest to tarnish Johnnys past work, she’s cost herself her future.
 
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Both Depp and Heard were found to have defamed each other. People seem to want to forget it, but he did also lose the case against The Sun.
It's clear you haven't followed this closely because if you had then you would have known that the Sun case was completely different.
 
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He’s the same age as my husband - they do tend to look a little weathered at their age - especially as there is no Botox/surgery going on. In other words , this is what guys normally look like at age 60+
 
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I still remember the video that did the rounds during the court case. It was supposed to have been 'leaked' to make her look like a great mother, as her fans claimed that while it was disgusting that something so private would be made public, it showed how natural she was. I guess I must have watched a different video because I remember her grabbing the wee one from the midwife who was trying to check her over and holding her like she was a pack of spuds as she brought her up to the camera, not caring that the surrogate lay there looking shattered and uneasy.

If even half of the rumours going around about her are true (many of them doing the rounds long before she and Depp got together), I wouldn't trust her with a goldfish, never mind a child. Her own parents admitted to being scared of her to the point they begged Johnny not to say anything about them being in touch. A friend came right out and said Whitney, who was covered in bruises, had been attacked by Amber in a video, as had other exes of hers and not just Johnny and Taysa. And as for the story about her and one of Whitney's friends, I only hope that one is a lie someone made up, because if not and the story going around is true, she really is vile.
The video with the baby wasn’t her child, just her fans may have claimed it was. It wasn’t leaked either. It was a video she posted publicly to her own Instagram. She had visited a children’s hospital (for publicity, trying to copy the good press that JD had got from doing something similar)…dressed up in scrubs and took a baby who had undergone surgery and was being taken back to the parents out of the nurses arms, clearly without asking, then posed for the camera. What you may not have seen, if they cut it to portray it as being her own child, is that at the end of the clip she then gives the child to the worried mothers, and in a very ‘over-acting manner’, proceeds to fuss as if she is a medical professional showing the mother how she should hold her own child, while also gurning for the camera. She claimed either at the trial or elsewhere that she has ‘volunteered’ at the CHLA, where she was supposed to donate one but didn’t, which is why she chose them…I think this may have been her ‘volunteering’.

The bruises on Whitney weren’t seen by ‘friends’. Whitney did some kind of reality tv show (before AH met JD, I believe, and certainly long before any other accusations of her being violent). There is a clip from it where other girls from the show are questioning Whitney about bruises and they are stating that Amber beat her up the evening before. From what is said, it’s unclear whether any of them witnessed it, but it appears that they have the information somehow and, on camera, Whitney is unwilling to confirm it and tries to deflect. There was also Whitney’s friend and former employer Jen, who testified at the trial that Whitney had come to live with her after claiming to her that Amber threw her down the staircase (the same incident where Amber claimed she was afraid JD would throw her sister down the stairs and that’s why Whitney moved out of the ECB). At the trial, Whitney couldn’t get the story straight and claimed the argument happened a the bottom of the staircase. This was the same witness who claimed being present when Whitney received a phone call from Amber where she admitting to causing the finger injury in Australia.

The ex, Tasya, kept out of things at the trial, but interestingly, is now friends with Jen, and they’ve been posted together on social media several times. Jen also claimed harassment such as graffiti and break-ins occurred in the lead up to her making a deposition. Tasya was the victim in the incident at the airport, where Amber was arrested and the decision was then made to not make charges because she lived in another state and was on her way out..presumably they’d need to hold her in jail if she has no local address and it was decided it wasn’t serious enough to warrant spending more public money on etc. Amber later claimed she wasn’t arrested, which isn’t true as there is a footage of her being interviewed by the police, she also claimed the arresting officer was homophobic and that’s why the arrest happened. She didn’t bank on the fact that the officer was gay herself and didn’t even know they were a couple and not just friends, and was later willing to publicly state that.

As for ‘other victims’. There is a comment from JD in his witness statement for the UK case that he is aware of multiple other female victims, who have contacted him privately, but do not feel safe in coming forward to testify. This of course, could be him bullshitting, but Tasya clearly did receive at least some violence towards her as Amber was arrested for it, plus, when the officer testified she referred only to a ‘female travel companion’….it did seem like the Depp legal team purposely tried to keep Tasya’s name out of the proceedings. This action does tie up with what he says in the witness statement about there being women afraid to speak publicly.

Note also that Tasya made a public statement around the time of when JD first claimed AH was the violent party to claim AH had never been violent toward her…but this statement was made via AH’s publicist Jody, who was involved in the decision of whether a restraining order was the right move or not (which shows the decision wasn’t about safety, but about publicity tactics). Several of JD’s ex’s also made statements to claim he had not been violent…but those appear to have been made of their own accord as they didn’t go via his management and put them out in their own Instagram’s etc, Winona and Vanessa even went a step further by providing character statements for the UK case (voluntarily and under laws of perjury), Kate Moss was even willing to testify voluntarily in the US case that he didn’t push her down the stairs as AH claimed was rumoured (no-one appeared to have heard this well-known rumour in the 90s other than 10 year old Amber at home in Texas), oddly AH didn’t appear to have asked JD if it was true. The truth appears to be that JD may have told her a story about Kate falling down some stairs and AH’s twisted brain refashioned it into something else.

All these ex’s coming forward doesn’t mean that JD wasn’t drunken, drugged up, jealous, cheating or a general asshole…but it that isn’t what he needed to defend himself against…what each of his ex’s have been clear about is that he was never violent…and they’ve been so clear about that…I’m very inclined to believe it.

As for the death of the friend in the car crash. JD mentions he believes her responsible in a witness statements, but doesn’t state how he knows it. It’s known she has a juvenile criminal record which is sealed and relates to a serious driving offence, possibly JD couldn’t legally state what he knew about that because it’s sealed. The entire Heard family would know about it, so it’s not a big stretch to imagine that someone would have told him something. It’s also on public record that she ignored her driving ban and when pulled over tried to convince the officer that Whitney was driving. She also claimed in court to have been an angelic teenager who volunteered at soup kitchens…that’s the type of work that gets given out at community service…that might have been connected to her juvenile record. She knew it was sealed and this likely meant she could make these claims about her teenage years without it being . She also is on record in an interview claiming she moved to New York age 16 to pursue modelling, then switched to acting as she didn’t enjoy it…a ‘fact’ she forgot at trial.

As for who the father of Oonagh really is…I think Elon is a very likely candidate, there was the legal challenge where he wanted embryos destroyed and it was settled out of court. It seems likely he would have agreed she could have one child and destroy the rest as a negotiation if he didn’t have legal advantage to win the case, he may have also been able to negotiate a lower maintenance, because due to his wealth it would automatically be very large otherwise, and essentially just funding AH to have luxury and not necessarily being spent on the child.

I do think at some point, something will happen that will cause Elon to speak out about her…he’s very tactical but also can be reactive. His biographer included a story from his brother about AH screaming that Elon had taken her passport and was holding her prisoner when in fact the passport was there on display in the room. I think Elon is letting people know the truth…in his own way. He may need to protect Oonagh and be biding his time.

No idea who the father of the second a baby may be, it could even be another of Elon’s. What I’m certain of is that she has rushed the leaking of the news earlier than intended…Lily-Rose getting Oscar buzz for her new movie, and JD publicly following his passions with his art exhibit etc…and never mentioning her…must be driving her insane. It would have made a more impactful PR event if she had waited until the child was born and put some photos out. Essentially Lily-Rose now has the lifestyle, career and public profile that Amber had been craving, it must make her sick.

One thing I am sure of, is that the supposed claim that she was going to run the New York Marathon, then got an injury needing crutches (conveniently right after JD got injured and needed to use a crutch) was complete bullshit. She was only out jogging as a way to call the paps. I don’t think she will ever set foot on US soil again…there are too many people are organisations that could be waiting to sue her. She appears to have used leaving the US as a way to avoid responsibly for her legal fees, I’m not clear on all the details, but it was obvious that she sold her house and got all her assets out of the US for a reason. She thought claiming she was ‘stateless’ would avoid legal issues, she was wrong, but whether she will physically pay back insurance money may depend on where she is keeping her money, she may be keeping it out of their reach. I also don’t think she will set foot on Australian soil again, there are several things there that could rear up with authorities if they got the chance.
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And another thing that doesn’t get mentioned much. Kate James, the assistant who claimed AH stole her sexual assault story…Kate actually described it somewhere (I believe it was her UK witness statement), the story is nothing like what AH claimed JD did to her in Australia. A lot of people seem to make the connection that AH got the bottle rape story from her, but she didn’t.

the story is actually about going travelling and being assaulted at knifepoint….Amber stole this story and adapted it to make it her own in a magazine interview. She claimed she went travelling in South America, was kidnapped at knifepoint and fought off her attacker…finishing the story with a claim she still made it back to her hotel before the bar closed for a drink. It seems like this was what Kate got angry about, it was making a mockery of something traumatic she had confided in AH about.

All this stuff where AH claims she referred to herself as a ‘victim’ in the JD sexual assault, which caused a severe reaction in Kate who prefers the word ‘survivor’, which caused upset between them…appears to be complete nonsense…why would Kate have allowed her young child to spend time with JD being taught guitar by him etc…if she had any inkling that he had a history of violence towards anyone? She would be hyper vigilant towards this type of thing given her past experiences and it would be something that would make her avoid JD and possibly leave the job over it, even if she never witnessed anything, just to feel safe for herself and her child. Yet she doesn’t have a negative word to say about him even years later and with the protection of now being back in her home country. In the UK trial she would have been a voluntary witness as well, so she must really hate Amber to have even wanted to testify. That lends some credibility to the judge saying she was a bitter ex employee, but I think he was wrong to dismiss her entire testimony for that reason. If there’s no history of this person having form for telling lies or seeking attention from the media, it wouldn’t make sense for her to have lied. She actually states in her UK witness statement that it is the use of her sexual assault story that has angered her…so the thing that drove her to want to testify voluntary probably had nothing to do with JD at all.
 
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Dotty Merton

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Amber Turd

Who does she think she is feckin' Ghislaine Maxwell? Turdle trollops off into the underworld from whence she came murmuring "I didn't recruit young women for rich space men to dick. I am homeless. Now look, I have disappeared!"

What a cunt.
 
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Not true, NDAs are a popular thing in America, especially in showbiz. So many break ups end in an NDA, this hasn’t. She can say what she wants. If she repeats the claims then JD can’t sue injury to his reputation because everything from the trial is all out in the open now.
If he didn’t care about the money, why did a man heavily in debt from his various vices and alleged theft from former business partners spend something silly like $26 million on two cases, one which he lost and the other he gained only $1 million from an insurance company, not even Amber. On top of that he hasn’t got a gag order on her. It doesn’t seem like a win to me. And his truth is quite shaky - there were inconsistencies with what he said, news after the trial wasn’t favourable and a whole host of DV and IPV experts who deal with those things daily said they support Amber. He still will get work because men are never truly cancelled no matter what they do, but this is a massive hit to him financially and personally.
Not sure why you jumped on this - I don’t think I said anything about the validity of his claims, I was just repeating what I’d seen about the settlement.

But I do laugh when people point out his inconsistencies when she’s on record giving multiple accounts of the incident in Australia where he lost his finger and submitted photographs that experts testified had been edited or doctored. But OK 🙃
 
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Channel 4 are putting out a three part documentary on the trial. The snippets used in the advert make me worry it’s going to have a pro Amber slant.

Absolutely baffles me how anyone anywhere can be pro Amber in any way - I was flicking through an old copy of Grazia in the hairdressers that was pro Amber, even after the trial had ended and her ways had been fully exposed. Madness.
 
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Have they forgotten that the trial was streamed and we could all see and hear the truth.
My friend and I were just talking about how the media was trying to tell what happened in the trial even though we were watching it live. They really tried to get us to believe that what we were seeing and hearing live was not what happened. It's the first time I ever really noticed the media trying to twist things or rather paid attention to it.
 
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