Jessie and Bebe Cave

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did i miss something? did jessie say she doesnt mover her face to prevent wrinkles in a podcast ? can someone point me in the right direction pls?
As someone who considers herself an 'actress' I am surprised by this as surely not showing emotions on her face aka acting will prevent her being cast/getting roles and therefore providing for her now 4 babies?
does anyone know what jessies job is again?

also do we reckon she will bargain with alfie for another baby after the success of his tour and he will go on a shagging tour once again?
she said she trained her forehead not to move aged 16 in the latest pod 🥴

(for comparison, bebe's already worried about her frown / fine lines aged 24)
 
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Watched there podcast for a few months never warmed to either of them I don't get why they try to portray they are on the bread line but clearly are fairly well off whats the betting Jessica will pop out another one next year.
 
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how does jessie not reflexively squint when the sun's in her eyes? or when she sneezes? I need answers pls
 
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Not an expert, don't have kids but that sleep set up looks like a nightmare, so many places the baby could roll and get stuck!
 
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Latest episode of WIK kinda depressed me. Jessie sounded deflated but I don’t listen to it much tbf, maybe she was just being normal. When she talked about how she’d missed auditioning and stuff, missed having stuff for her, it was like - whyyy did she rush to have another baby so soon after Tenn, she could have had relatively way more freedom than she does right now, covid is out the way and Alfie was absent anyway - it must just feel crappy, having another newborn in tow and her acting career kicked down the road again. I do hope her audition went well. It sounds like she really wanted it.
She was being very flippant about Alfie being back and Becker “finally meeting his daddy”, though maybe a bit passive aggressive about the fact he left. (Wtf was the weird part about how when she was away she wanted to make the flat so nice that Alfie wouldn’t want to leave again… still can’t work out if she’s trolling us lol!) She did acknowledge how much her mum has facilitated her as a mother recently. Her mum puts the kids to bed, sleeps with them, does school dropoffs, bath times, cleaning and cooking… she’s essentially a 24/7 nanny presumably unpaid and it kinda makes you wonder how much Jessie actually sees her older kids now!

I realise “it must feel crappy” sounds a bit harsh, I’m a mum too and I guess I just mean i could tell she was feeling kind of torn and anxious about the prospect of her career with a newborn. It’s obvious becker is loved and wanted by her. But she does seem to yearn for something else too.
 
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She said yesterday that she loves bathtime as each child gets one on one time and I’m just like ‘how?!’
So her mum is watching the other three and getting them ready for bed while she does that, obviously. Just seems weird how her mum is constantly there and essentially co-parenting her children.
 
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The whole “it takes a village” narrative that she said her mum is a big believer in, like yeah you need a good support network for sure, but I’m not sure that the “village” should be to the exclusion of the actual dad!
 
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Everything is fine guys she’s got her little human collection all lined up in a row again.
 
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Everything is fine guys she’s got her little human collection all lined up in a row again.
I wonder if her mum has left then and how well they'll cope without her 👀
Wtf was the weird part about how when she was away she wanted to make the flat so nice that Alfie wouldn’t want to leave again… still can’t work out if she’s trolling us lol!
see also: wanting to have a routine down for when he returns / playing 'the girlfriend' - this is what she perceives her role to be.

btw I'm sure her mum enjoys being part of the children's lives / watching them grow, etc. but. my mother-in-law is a weekly babysitter her son's kids (partner's brother) and says she's looking forward to the day they move to a bigger place and become more independent... I think it's tiring for people in their midsixties to keep up with young kids, not least several of them at different ages! (it's tiring for everybody but even more so!)
 
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It was so weird to me listening to the latest WCTATRN where Bebe (childless twentysomething) was acting all knowledgable about how Jessie needs to act “like a girlfriend” to Alfie. Alfie and Jessie have 4 kids and been together years now, they may not be married but as if she still thinks it’s her job to put on a perfect gf act for him! Being a respectful good partner is a very different thing to be honest.
 
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If Jessie can’t be her authentic self with Alfie and is constantly “acting a role” then she is on a fast track to a mental health crisis. Believe me.
 
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It all just sounds so exhausting. That “girlfriend role”, four small kids and a house bursting at the seams with brightly coloured stuff. That’s why I unfollowed on IG, it was stressing me out just to look at it.
 
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Their home looks like a flat I went back to for a party after a night out. The only difference was everyone, (bar me), was huffing petrol.
 
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I just can’t connect with Jessie’s latest episode where she talks about not wanting to socialise / meet with people in the early weeks of Becker’s birth. Like, maybe I get that it can be overwhelming after your first baby, but baby no.4… seriously?! Baby no.2 was whisked into the pram / car straight after returning from hospital because there’s no way I wouldn’t lock her elder sibling up in the house all day, she needed to get out, go to parks and stuff and it was easier for us all to just get on and do it. It’s like she’s severely disadvantaged her other children to be a hermit in a newborn bubble again, but she also has a responsibility to the others. Maybe her mum is just parenting the others so they’re not losing out, but it seems so wrong. Clearly having more kids and not reasonably being able to cope with them all.
 
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She also seemed to be almost blaming her not seeing beckers symptoms on other people wanting to see her. If I was one of those friends she met up with and heard that I’d be feeling so guilty! Which I’m not sure is fair…
Also interesting to hear her talk about her dad for once and quite odd he only saw Becker at a family party after he’d been out for 6 weeks. Maybe dad lives abroad.
 
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She also seemed to be almost blaming her not seeing beckers symptoms on other people wanting to see her. If I was one of those friends she met up with and heard that I’d be feeling so guilty! Which I’m not sure is fair…
Also interesting to hear her talk about her dad for once and quite odd he only saw Becker at a family party after he’d been out for 6 weeks. Maybe dad lives abroad.
I’m sure she’s mentioned before that her parents have an “unconventional” relationship. It’s no wonder she has no idea what a real one is and is now repeating the cycle.
 
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She also seemed to be almost blaming her not seeing beckers symptoms on other people wanting to see her. If I was one of those friends she met up with and heard that I’d be feeling so guilty! Which I’m not sure is fair…
Also interesting to hear her talk about her dad for once and quite odd he only saw Becker at a family party after he’d been out for 6 weeks. Maybe dad lives abroad.
Dad works as a GP in London so definitely doesn't live abroad lol
 
Dad works as a GP in London so definitely doesn't live abroad lol
I wonder whether her parents had the same sort of relationship, where the mum wanted loads of kids so the dad obliged but was wealthy enough to be able to spend a lot of time not with them. Sometimes parents justify their own decisions by enabling their children to do the same thing., That may explain why her mum is enabling her.
 
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