Jessie and Bebe Cave
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Yup I've given birth on my back twice and no choice in either too. I'm also surprised she forgets what labour is like, it's not something you can ever forget!
yup he's in his 70s and a doctor, he fairly recently took Bebe, Horatio and the oldest brother and his family skiing and had an accident and injured himself (according to Horatio's pod). He and Jessie’s mum are divorced, I suspect that he may have had an affair but not sure.
According to Wikipedia "Her mother Deborah[4][5] is the daughter of former Chief Secretary to Hong Kong, Tasmanian-born Sir Charles Philip Haddon-Cave.[6]"
I think Jessie's last name is or was hyphenated, Cave-Lloyd, and she just took Cave as her last name for the sake of simplicity, or possibly because of her father's affair, if that's true.
Her mum is Deborah Haddon-Cave, whose father was the Chief Secretary of Hong Kong:
Philip Haddon-Cave - Wikipedia
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I was reading about director Mimi Cave the other day (no relation I don't think) and I was just lol'ing at Mimi Cave...Bebe Cave....just need some CeCe/Gigi/Kiki Caves as well
Snap!
That is some colonial-era tit! I love how all these kids are so aggressively and self-consciously left wing, then you find out their relatives were governors of Hong Kong or attachés to King Leopold of Belgium or some tit 
Their uncle has also been knighted https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Haddon-Cave
tbf I wouldn't necessarily describe jessie as aggressively left wing I don't think she engages all that much in politicsThat is some colonial-era tit! I love how all these kids are so aggressively and self-consciously left wing, then you find out their relatives were governors of Hong Kong or attachés to King Leopold of Belgium or some tit
Also she is about two years older than me.
Whilst we weren't taught pounds and ounces at school they were a still quite prevalent in my childhood so I would assume they would be for her too
And having babies (her favourite hobby) everyone refers to their weight in pounds not kilos!
British people still measure their own weight I'm pounds and stone
Yup!
It is still common for people to ask for fruit and vegetables by the pound too.
One of my early jobs was in a deli and I had to learn the grams conversion for pounds as 90% of the customers ordered 1/4 or 1/2 pound instead of 500g etc.
I'm really stunned that she's made it to Baby #4 without knowing what a sweep is or how legendarily painful/uncomfortable it is. I've never had one but I've heard enough horror stories! Also that she wouldn't ask outright why she needs to be induced, or why low birth weight/lack of growth in the womb are not the sort of things to shrug off as "oh well I always have small babies like my mum did"
As someone who catastrophises as well I can only assume she avoids looking into a lot of details about birth and labour, it would probably put her off going through it so many times if she lifted that particular rock.
As someone who catastrophises as well I can only assume she avoids looking into a lot of details about birth and labour, it would probably put her off going through it so many times if she lifted that particular rock.
She did mention in one of them, that her top piece of advice is to ‘not google’ pregnancy related concerns/symptoms, so I think you’re right, she def seems to have adopted quite an active ‘ignorance is bliss’ mindset when it comes to pregnancy and birth relayed things. But aside from that, her general ignorance (eg about politics/world affairs, pounds/ounces lol) and ditziness and just overall portraying herself as childlike/immature is really not a good look for a mother of 4.
This is the reason I think it wasn’t a great idea to do a podcast about it fair enough about motherhood as everyone’s experience is individual but to kind of be in a position of authority and yet be quite misinformed about something like childbirth and pregnancy is eek
I agree she is not well placed to host a “pregnancy podcast”. She could have been more explicit about it being her experience only and I feel she framed a good bit of it as an advice type thing.
Regarding the deal she sounded pretty defensive around - if a couple want to have an open relationship that’s absolutely fine, who cares - if the children come into that arrangement as some sort of bargaining chip as it sounds like they did, that is completely off and could cause real damage. I mean wtf imagine knowing you were only born because your mum made a deal that your dad could shag around!? The guilt and shame a child might carry around that! Kids just know things and even if they didn’t find out explicitly they would pick up on something.
Regarding the deal she sounded pretty defensive around - if a couple want to have an open relationship that’s absolutely fine, who cares - if the children come into that arrangement as some sort of bargaining chip as it sounds like they did, that is completely off and could cause real damage. I mean wtf imagine knowing you were only born because your mum made a deal that your dad could shag around!? The guilt and shame a child might carry around that! Kids just know things and even if they didn’t find out explicitly they would pick up on something.
but motherhood / pregnancy is her personality
apparently horatio 'forced' bebe into doing stand-up and she didn't enjoy it and has since quit, he said she didn't bomb she just couldn't cope with doing kinda average and he was concerned that she wouldn't have been able to cope with actually bombing, also the whole experience was awful for her and he thinks acting is 'easier' / much cushy than stand-up
Wtf? Are they still together? Did he say this or did she? These women have such strange, disrespectful relationships.
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