Jeremy Clarkson

[HairyWeeTerrier]

And the Jeremy Clarkson thread will be locked in 3.2.1....!

Probably a wise move

 

[YetAnotherObsessionx]

This thread has very quickly turned from being about Jeremy Clarkson to being about The Sun.

 

[lilyannrose]

So, If anyone is rude to you. You don't question them about it? Your first instinct is to assault them! Thanks for clearing up my confusion.

It's a concerning level of aggression on dispay from that poster!

I've never been a fan of Clarkson but as a rule I don't support this 'cancel culture' that has taken hold nowadays...however I do think people cross a line sometimes, and should face consequences. Clarkson had got away with a hell of a lot for years until he punched the producer, too.

 

[Justhereforthedrama]

Like him or loathe him wishing him better health.

https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-clarkson-reveals-aggressive-cancer-diagnosis-13554835

The show finished filming sept last year so this 'revelation' and the op to repair was at least 9 months ago, and he's still here and ok. I feel like he should do a statement or something for a bit of an update as people think its happening in real time.

 

[Campari]

I can't believe people are wasting time reporting him to the police.

 

[plinky2]

I, too, had no idea "far east" is supposedly an offensive term. This is the first time I've ever seen anyone claim it is.

As much as I dislike Clarkson and his ilk, I am sometimes just as uncomfortable with the constant and extreme language policing. From what I see it often just causes further division rather than heal any rifts but, more importantly, doesn't ever genuinely seem to be about sensitivity but a tactic used to close down discussion people don't like.

If this is aimed at me, it wasn’t me who made a fuss about this. I did say there is no such thing as mixed race which is a scientific fact, not one of my own snooty opinion . All humans are the same race, aka human so the term is outdated but still used as a descriptor and is a class based societal system

 

[annanuttall]

It was quoted saying once on the Secret Celeb thread that James May hates him behind the scene.

 

[YetAnotherObsessionx]

perceived racism, sexism and every other -ism under the sun

Almost every thread on Tattle contains at least one of these, it seems OK to write comments about anybody famous on here so why not elsewhere... being a non-Brit in Britain I've been the 'victim' of many insults or ignorant comments over the years (face to face, not as a written comment in some newspaper that I don't have to read), I guess now I could sue someone for causing me mental health issues, or I could just ignore and move on. Of course I'm not famous so I can only imagine what it must be like to have one's life under constant scrutiny and to have strangers write horrible things about you on a daily basis... but I don't for a moment believe that JC actually wants to see MM naked on any street. I still like him in the context that I see him in. I didn't like that he punched his colleague and he was correctly fired for that. But, I liked the emotion he showed about his sheep, and the pride he showed in his daughter getting married. Incidentally I also feel a bit sad that his daughter felt she had to make that point to say she didn't agree with what he wrote. Who on Earth would think that she would!

 

[L3moning]

What's racism got to do with it?

The comment amount hating Meghan "on a cellular level" came across as a bit dodgy from a race point of view.

 

[CeeCeeBloom]

The show finished filming sept last year so this 'revelation' and the op to repair was at least 9 months ago, and he's still here and ok. I feel like he should do a statement or something for a bit of an update as people think its happening in real time.

I *think* the hospital bed scenes are May this year but stand to be corrected.

 

[Resting Rage Face]

Being an overprivileged chavvy gammon is basically Clarkson's USP (unfortunately). I can see where he sourced that outflow of utter sewage from GoT, but that one should have been left in Drafts to be reviewed later, then quietly deleted.

 

[StatusWoe]

Though I suspect it to be the type which for at least the past five years, has been peddling these accusations against Asian women (in particular).

I haven't a clue what you're referring to (in particular).

I would supply the the numerous relevant citations.
But it would be sadly be of little use.
As you would not read them, for fear of an original thought entering your head.
You are clearly more intent on signalling your virtue, than actually possessing any.

Go on then. I strongly suspect you have none.

But this thread is about Clarkson, so if you're only here to berate Meghan & Harry then I don't see the point in continuing this discussion.

 

[wibble]

Wrong on all counts. Yes I read the Clarkson article and imo it was over the top Meghan Markle is in my view narcissistic but she hasn't sold Scottish women and children down the river like Nichola Sturgeon nor is she a serial killer like Rose West so for Clarkson to hate Meghan more is imo OTT.
Did the article particularly bother no, just rolled my eyes at the OTT bits and instantly realised he'd used a GOT reference.
Yes I read The Sun or at least what stories they post on their FB page, do I judge others for reading it or not reading it no.

Do I judge the Sun for letting actual lies about ordinary people stand with no apology whilst caving into a privileged narcissist some of whose followers wield the race card as though it were a bank card over an opinion piece by one of their writers. ABSOLUTELY AND UTTERLY

I have a quiet day today so please feel free to continue to project your own feelings of worthlessness onto me I have prayers enough to spare for you.

Do try again.
And this time and this time...
try to make yourself less ludicrous....

 

[MemoryLane]

If someone is rude to me, patronises me, talks down to me then I don’t reply with graciousness! He lacked basic respect for her. She had given her own time to appear on a show to try & win money for a charity. So had I been her and been spoke to like that I’d of pushed him off his stool. That’s not lacking respect. That’s standing up to a bully.

 

[Lady_H]

Jeremy clarkson is willingly contracted to write an editorial with a racist, hate speech, misogynistic tabloid newspaper. I will indeed tar him with the same brush. Those who wish to distance themselves from this kind of behaviour and opinions do not associate with this kind of publication. JC is part of the media, he has a wide reach and a platform which he is choosing to be part of the gutter press. He should be called out on his choices.

@HairyWeeTerrier
I feel a bit sorry for you in some ways, as ignorance is always a pity. It is the case that the wealthy (mostly white) western world govern the income of poorer countries. To keep cost low to generate huge profits leads to desperate measures within the countries to keep up mass production. There are so many examples of this, Shein, sugar production to name only 2 which have been in the media recently where the working conditions are awful because the entire economy is reliant on the income from the U.K./US and they have no power to make internal changes or improve legislation because no one really cares about them, they just want the profits and products. People do indeed live in countries where everyone is seen as commodity, but that is driven by the wealthy countries who use these workforces. It was interesting to see you making it sound like it was a fair choice of a country in the Far East.

Countries who commit atrocities against their own citizens is obviously not always racism though is it, why would you think that? I’m not sure what you mean by this? I don’t really understand how you are linking those together, but anyway. It is often driven by money, and power. Our own country tore through most of the world gathering up peoples precious history, enslaving, stealing and killing and we are still seeing the fall out of the damage we did in many places, including Africa.

No one is mixed race, there is only 1 race in the world and it is the human race. It is someone’s ethnicity and their features that differ based on your ancestry and origins.

Going to London and seeing black waiters once and cutting your friend off for not liking them doesn’t give you a ‘I’m not a racist’ badge of honour because you did one decent thing once

It’s a bit racist to say Far East. Didn’t they mention that in your Critical Race Theory courses and/or YouTube videos? Shame on you for using such an antiquated Eurocentric term and then lecturing others about their racism. You’re clearly not quite pure enough in your thinking yet so off with your own “I’m not a racist” badge and off you go to the gulags for a bit of re-education.

Oh yeah, Clarkson - paid to be controversial, scored another hit I guess, and all forgotten about by this time next week. Whether or not anyone thinks he’s a misogynist is purely subjective, and the way that word is used gives it less and less meaning anyway. The most annoying thing is that he’s given the Harkles a bit more ammunition about how everyone hates her.

 

[lilyannrose]

This is just education. Being older isn’t an excuse not to take something on board, you always learn new things in life and society changes over time whether people like it or not, you can’t stop time just because it doesn’t suit you, it just carries on without you. There is a long history of injustices and crimes that are being set right in modern times and wording and phrasing has adapted. People are not trying to be smug to point out misinformation and try to prevent the mistakes of the past repeating themselves. I’m sorry that it seems unrealistic, a genuine mistake is something to learn from, to keep repeating it to prove a point is just being offensive. JC is well aware of what causes offence, he is purposefully offensive, some people clearly like it as a power trip.

I understand all that but I'm talking about the kind of thing where one innocently misplaced word can get your life ruined. I think it's very unrealistic to expect people to live that way but you hear more and more that this happens.

Someone like Clarkson, who clearly takes a lot of pleasure in provoking offense as much as he can get away with it, is a whole different thing and I am not on that side at all.

 

[YetAnotherObsessionx]

People seem to be so tetchy these days.

Yep, it does feel like there are at least as many people who enjoy being offended, as there are those who enjoy being offensive. Well, at least on the internet (or sports radio phone-ins, according to my husband) it does, anyway.

 

[Adawu]

I've loathed him for years. When he assaulted that producer he also called him a 'lazy Irish c*nt'. Imo this proves that his bigotry isn't faked, he genuinely is a nasty bigoted man.



Sophie Corcoran is the worst.

He is a lazy Irish cunt and a pussy(I'm Irish BTW) he should have had a hot meal organised for everyone after that episode it was miserably wet and cold. He should have manned up and punched Clarkson back instead of running crying to a hospital to get treated for imaginary injuries.

 

[plinky2]

It’s a bit racist to say Far East. Didn’t they mention that in your Critical Race Theory courses and/or YouTube videos? Shame on you for using such an antiquated Eurocentric term and then lecturing others about their racism. You’re clearly not quite pure enough in your thinking yet so off with your own “I’m not a racist” badge and off you go to the gulags for a bit of re-education.

Oh yeah, Clarkson - paid to be controversial, scored another hit I guess, and all forgotten about by this time next week. Whether or not anyone thinks he’s a misogynist is purely subjective, and the way that word is used gives it less and less meaning anyway. The most annoying thing is that he’s given the Harkles a bit more ammunition about how everyone hates her.

Was this to me about the Far East? As I was responding to the original poster who mentioned this description in their post to me, I referenced their post back to them

This is a thread about Clarkson, not H&M they have their own thread.

 

[YetAnotherObsessionx]

I was the one who used the term ‘Far East’ I am 74, so am not quite up to speed about what it is acceptable to say.

It's perfectly acceptable to say Far East - it's a geographical location, not a person or a race/ethnicity, I can't imagine under what circumstances that would be a racist term? I also can't see what on Earth the use of the term Far East has got to do with whether it's OK to like Jeremy Clarkson or not. Who remembers that time he did the Top Gear special in Vietnam (if I remember correctly) where he did a joke about the bridge, which the turned out to be a racist term (which I also can't remember), that most people had never heard or known about, but was enough to get him shitloads of press, and got more people to watch the episode just to see that scene... same as the numberplate he put on his car in Argentina, which was offensive to some local people. Again, he know exactly what he's doing when he says/writes what he does. As does, for example, Ricky Gervais when he roasts celebs during his Golden Globes speeches, or when he writes songs about disabled people, or Native Americans, under the guise of being David Brent. They know how to appeal to the public, that's their job - for whatever the reason is for offensiveness or rudeness being popular, that's far bigger an issue to resolve than getting an apology from Clarkson.