Jack Monroe #70 #fakingmemories

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I really, really hope this is true if she has done this I can’t wait for that documentary! We have receipts on the lot of them, anyone coming over is welcome and will see what utter bullshit they are all pedalling!

There is a reason that none of them directly mention tattle, because they don’t want people to read here. If Jack was that confident we were lying and bullying she would mention tattle and let her minions come over here to sort us out and correct us. She won‘t nor will any other influencer written about here, the stock phrase is they don’t want to give us the attention. If I really believed a site was full of bullying witches I would tell my fans, I would say go and look at the utter hideous crap that they are writing about me......not one of them does this.

I hope that documentary is followed up by a phone in, I have questions to ask.

  • Where is the Child protection? Child privacy? Child’s rights?
  • Is the constant commercialism of motherhood appropriate? (Selling a load of crap constantly to mainly women, to sell them the idea of keeping up with their favourite influence is horrific.)
  • Is the constant use of filters whilst selling body positivity appropriate?
  • Where are the questions or discussions that disagree with any post?
  • Why is it ok to turn thousands of fans on one follower who asks a question?
  • Where is the protection of finances when influencers ask for donations of goods or money to causes? (Ptwm, fundraising, patreon etc)
  • Where is the MlM element of Insta exposed?
  • Why is it ok to constantly lie about products you use, experiences you have, emotions you feel...to present utter nonsense to people?
  • Why did it take us to make them put #ad in their ads and still they don’t/won’t do?
  • How has it become ok to rip out a kitchen, bathroom, sofa etc etc that is totally fine and functional to accept one that is newer, so it can be sold to followers? What is the environmental impact of this?
  • Why is it ok to encourage people to stock pile cleaning chemicals?
  • Why is it ok to tweet the most horrendous racist an ableist abuse but then bring in management to cover it up and not apologise? *Edited to add, Jack hasn’t done all these things, it’s a general selection of influencers behaviour!
Is this really the society that we want to create? A nation of people who get dopamine hits from likes for buying items they don’t need, with money they don’t have to impress people they don’t know.

I love Radio 4, I will phone in and I really hope they go deeper than the usual simplistic crap that we are all ugly trolls with unfulfilling Lives. I won’t be anonymous they can have my name...bring it bloody on Sally. I am ready and truly can’t wait!
Im totally glad you said this, I’ve had this diatribe in my Tattle box since this morning, ran it past my copy editor 😜 she didn’t correct it cos she’s a lazy cow, but anyway along a similar theme. Sorry it’s so long and no comedy.

I’ve been in and read the SH wiki and @Brian Butterfield you’re spot on, it really is a thing of beauty. So well put together, clear and open. We need one just like that for JM and it needs linking to the initial main recap...I know JM has a wiki here but it’s just a list of her embarrassing moments. I’d offer to do it but I couldn’t make it that decent...I waffle too much!

So onto waffling, after reading SH Wiki it occurred to me, more than before, how JM is playing out in an identical manner to SH. Then it occurred to me that they are stable mates at the Guardian. What infuriates me most is that these two (along with others like mother Pukka) have the national press and magazines at their disposal to write/have articles written about them giving them praise for all their great work (🙄), promoting their (whatever they want to flog) and allowing them to tell their tale about their lives and the problems they have with us trolls. It makes me fcuking livid that there are all these one-sided articles out there holding these people up and trashing us. That’s not journalism, that’s opinion but not written as an opinion piece it’s written as the whole story! Where are the journalists asking for this side of the story? Investigating why this site even exists, delving and fact checking...where the duck are they? How are these people being allowed to control the dialogue so exclusively?

I cancelled my subscription to the Guardian today (well the money I give them to keep afloat) because despite the fact it was a left wing Manchester born paper, I can not bear that my £ is paying for them to not only employ but promote these folk. They can duck off, I’d rather give my money to Murdoch than these middle class London centric huns, at least I know he’s a bleep and people can say it and not be threatened with legal action.

Someone said earlier that SH was doing a programme for R4 going round the country talking about trolls, this is another area where these folk get to sound off without scrutiny, the BBC, and I’m paying for that with my TV licence! Jesus, I’m paying them!
Well if that’s the case then jack/Sali I’m your boss and Tattle is basically your monthly/quarterly/ annual review, you don’t get to take my money and spout your crap onto my newspaper or TV with impunity, you get critiqued fuxkers! Also isn’t Tattle just like goggle box? Now duck off!

ETA - edit so it didn’t look totally ducked up 😜
 
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From an actual psychological viewpoint, then very definitely a Narcissist.
I've mentioned many times my history, I am a survivor of a Narcissistic Mother. I have diagnosed ptsd and spent many years in therapy.
The behaviour you describe is A Typical Narcissism. They love the drama. Your description of 'throwing a hand grenade' is spot on. In Narc terminology the phrase 'Flying Monkeys' is used to basically describe a Narc's minions.
Jack throws her grenade and runs off. If someone DARE to question her narrative she panics. Narcs are hardwired to only see their version of events and any sign of dissent just doesn't compute.
She has a tantrum and her Flying Monkeys appear. They then dogpile on whichever poor fool dared to question Saint Jackie. Several Fraus have had the unfortunate experience first hand and am sure will let you know how terrifying it is.
You do get such behaviour IRL too, it just can be a bit more tricky to spot unless you are in the middle of it.
im sorry to read you have had dealings with a naracssist- i have some experience with that as well.

have you read about the drama triangle? its often associated with narks and fits jack to a t, especially with how she often asks for advice but then belittles the people who respond.

Causing drama is also "exciting" and a distraction- it keeps her feeling busy, it probably gives her a sense of power.
Excitment/pain/stress also produce endorphins which are pain suppressing and pleasure inducing (some would argue that they are not much different than the effect of some addictions)

She is just using tattle and drama to distract herself from reality.
And that reality is that she doesn't stand for anything any more, her memoir will expose her inconsistencies, and she wont achieve more than what she has now- this is as far as he can go and she knows it.

(Back to lurking..... :) )
 
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im sorry to read you have had dealings with a naracssist- i have some experience with that as well.

have you read about the drama triangle? its often associated with narks and fits jack to a t, especially with how she often asks for advice but then belittles the people who respond.

Causing drama is also "exciting" and a distraction- it keeps her feeling busy, it probably gives her a sense of power.
Excitment/pain/stress also produce endorphins which are pain suppressing and pleasure inducing (some would argue that they are not much different than the effect of some addictions)

She is just using tattle and drama to distract herself from reality.
And that reality is that she doesn't stand for anything any more, her memoir will expose her inconsistencies, and she wont achieve more than what she has now- this is as far as he can go and she knows it.

(Back to lurking..... :) )
Yes! She bounces around (the triangle) being a persecutor, rescuer and then a victim. Fab observation. Therapists advise toxic people do this constantly.
 
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Thanks. Wow. I found that really uncomfortable/ fascinating. I was interested to read what she had to say - has she now been banned? She seemed to quite like it here
Jack isn't banned but was asked by mods not to post on her threads anymore. I don't think she's logged on since. Not under that account anyway.
 
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Where are the journalists asking for this side of the story? Investigating why this site even exists, delving and fact checking...where the duck are they? How are these people being allowed to control the dialogue so exclusively?
Absolutely, and if something was researched well the reader / viewer could make their own mind up about what is happening! They are free to think anything they like about SH or JM or the cabal. Something that is totally fine and healthy and normal.
 
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Oh no, I've somehow ended up on that bloody singing video again...her whispery voice around 5.05 just kills me :ROFLMAO:

Hi Lenny Briscoe here, Detective, Private Investigator, pool hustler, all round good guy...just wanted to say that I think making videos of yourself singing is quite random. I don’t have a lot of self-confidence and maybe that’s why I sometimes think confidence can be a bit much but I’m just a bit baffled by it really. Not the worst singer I’ve heard but I don’t think we got the full X Factor story....
 
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Lads, I've been AWOL for a while, because JM was doing my head in, so I went to live in the safety of the F&D thread. I've been on a big old grunka and just wanted to pop up to say that some of the posts in the last couple of days have been beautifully written, brilliant analysis. I don't stray very far into the rest of Tattle, but this thread and all its incarnations are full of clever, witty, insightful people and not at all the troll/bitchfest claimed by those who have their own reasons for claiming that.

@GrunkaLunka - that was a masterpiece of a summary.
 
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I’m just stood at my kitchen counter steaming some sweet potatoes and braising some chickpeas and spinach and thinking about that duck video...that was possibly one of the weirdest things that Jack has come out with so far. Is she steaming drunk and not thinking properly? Is she messing with our heads? Is she just so lacking in imagination and creativity and such an extreme narcissist that she thinks anything she puts out there is instantly interesting? I would honestly rather be forced to watch that Aha video on repeat for a week.
 
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I just don’t understand the singing thing. Like, why?
You’re meant to be a “food writer” would Nigella do this?, no, don’t do it then.

i briefly worked for a small catering company and now I realise who the owner reminds me of. She could cook to be fair, but she copied everything off the BBC website (didn’t stop her talking about getting me and the other staff to sign a non-disclosure agreement to ‘protect her recipes’). She spent so much time being batshit the business failed., which very easily could have been very profitable. She was constantly furious she wasn’t very well off and could not just sit at home with the business running itself. She also talked about working ‘all hours’ and she did the very very bare minimum and didn’t work for most of the week. Guess who she is a big fan of though...
 
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Had a look at her "cooking" (onion chopping) video.

Why is she STILL throwing everything into a cold pan ffs?

Did Allegra teach her nothing? (apart from, famously, that salt is a thing that exists)
 
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