Jack Monroe #65 Green gages and ham

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Scarletfever

Sounds like grammar school was not a positive place for her so it is surprising she wants to put her son through the same.
Also, the hypocrisy of calling herself a poverty campaigner, and considering grammar school for her son. If she had a clue or an ounce of integrity she would know that grammar schools entrench disadvantage and drain resources from other schools in the area.
 
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LavaFlake

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if his peers' parents are spending money on tutoring. I spent 7 years of my childhood in a grammer school county and sat the 11+. I was a bright child (not to sound braggy lol) but I failed it. It was all patterns and word and numerical associations. Definitely something you could be taught to do - and something I wasn't, as despite being comfortable growing up there was no way my parents could afford a tutor. Lots of my classmates had tutors from year 3 as we lived in an affluant area. If his local primary school is near where her house is I can imagine lots of his pals getting tutored.

However looking at her ridiculous outgoings - whether thats top of the range white goods, holidays to Edinburgh via a last minute sleeper or even Roberts radios, Waitrose shops and £400 hammocks - she could. One sideboard is equivalent to almost 3 months' worth of tutoring. If you want to make those sacrifices then you can. And tbh not having an incredibly expensive furnishings is hardly a sacrifice!

Whether its right for him to have tutoring or even sit the 11+ is a conversation she should be having in private with SB (imho he's old enough to be having his opinion asked for on these matters) and his dad. Not speaking out on Twitter and using it as an excuse to brag about how well she did back in 1999 or whenever.
 
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ChickenPorridge

Yup. All just an excuse to talk about herself and drops hints about not being wealthy. In fact, to make it seem like she is much, much less well off than she actually is, which I would describe as perfectly 'comfortable'.
 
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Pigman

Oxford_Girl said:
how do you stop them we have two at the farm that literally rule the roost and do what the heck they like when they like and they sometimes lay daily other times they don’t ?
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My chickens are more like SHAN'T lay eggs!
 
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FrumpyCat

I think she might actually be quite good at shielding her son from her excesses. Also a lot of what she claims is bollocks, and I don't believe she has been sleeping 22 hours a day or having floor-crawling meltdowns.

I've work alongside children's services and some of the behaviour you probably wouldn't believe, doesn't even warrant a child protection plan, so I tend to go out on a limb to defend Jack as a parent.
 
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Emmapism

If she was the brightest girl in the school I would question the intellectual rigor of said school.

Maybe she aced Exaggeration 101.

Key Stage 2 Lying.
 
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Captainmouse

She should be having the conversation with his dad not twitter. also it a bit eleventh hour, lockdown started in March. And i am sure if both parents felt he needed tutoring, between them they would have managed.
 
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TheDragonWithAFlagon

Bloody Hell. I only went off to make Beetroot Soup whilst Mr D was snoring in front of watching the Tour de France.

Birds like chickens lay clutches of eggs. The wild originator of Domestic Chickens, the Guinea Fowl, will lay an egg a day and will lay around 80-160 eggs in a season in around 4 batches of 30 with a short gap in between, usually from around March to September. The difference is that domestic chickens have been bred to lay over a longer season and the difference in a controlled environment (apart from the expressly horrible ones) is that the light levels are manipulated so that they don't go off lay in response to the shorter daylight.


SB would be fine if she just shut the fuck up about the eleven plus. If she wasn't saying he might not be with his friends and haranguing him about what the stakes are, he'd be fine. Oh, and if she wasn't being a screaming, howling absolute state, going batshit over his books, getting half dead kittens, announcing she was never going home from Scotland, going through a number of parental figures and generally being an absolute liability and headfuck as a parent by her own account, he probably wouldn't be anywhere near as anxious about life.

The school will be planning how to support the kids when they're back. The DSL will probably have been keeping an eye on her SM for a start, so s/he knows the absolute batshittery the child has been subjected to over lockdown. In an 11+ area, they're well used to the stresses and will be taking the extra ones, both external and those from parents/family into account for ALL children. In addition to the usual stuff he gets, she's also been hassling him about the eleven plus. Just leave the kid the fuck alone. Let his Dad and Stepmum handle it. Reckon they're saying he'll be fine wherever he goes and not to worry about it.


In short, JUST FUCK OFF.
 
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bazzam

she is saying that he isn't great under pressured conditions, so there is a good chance his teachers wouldn't put him forward for that sort of environment. she sounds like it is actually a choice of going to grammar school when it clearly isn't.
 
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Blurp

I suspect that the Queen of the Slop Age peaked at 11+, then sat back and has done nothing academic ever since, simply resting on her dusty laurels.

There certainly were plenty of cases of children who aced the 11+ but couldn't keep up with the standard of grammar school nor national examinations. There were also others who developed later - I vaguely remember that some English areas had a 13+ type thing to filter in those. There's different types of intelligence and some people can really do well in exams and do badly actually using the knowledge.

I was probably more of a rebel at school than Mucky Paws and nearly got expelled at one point. I ended up with a partial scholarship for my A Levels because I thought it would be fun to go for it, and I was told by one teacher that I didn't deserve the O level result I got because I hadn't done any work for it. I can swot for an exam, ace it, and not remember anything a few weeks later. That's nothing to be proud of and it does annoy me that my brain works like a partially functioning sieve. I don't spend my life constantly reliving the greatness of my intellect at 10 or 11 or whenever I passed an exam. That's the mark of someone who hasn't done anything more with their life; it's simply irrelevant by the time you're into your adulthood.
 
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GothPrincess

None of my kids or nieces did the 11+. They didn’t want to. My kids went to a school that encouraged doing the 11+. Triangulate me dear heart. They’ve done well at the local secondary schools. If a child gets into grammar, well good for them. If not, whatever.
 
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Squandaaaaa

Just a thought with auto correct you have to manually correct ‘thank you’ to one word or take the effort to save it into the dictionary.
 
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Pigman

Cuileann said:
Oh yes. I had to go back to the article and check that she really did say one a month. Genuinely thought I'd misinterpreted it or something. But no
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I think she is confusing humans and birds here
 
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SweetTransvestite

Anonymousone said:
Yes, absolutely x

But basically she’s just (accidentally) saying she ‘failed’ because she’s lazy.
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Sounds like she's always been an entitled brat who, when things don't go her way is genuinely shocked, appalled & outraged. Hard work, perseverance & humility are outside her understanding. This has evidently been with her since school.

Some people thrive under pressure, some struggle..I absolutely understand that.

This ridiculous 'howling, screaming & clawing at the moon routine' is nothing different to a 3yr old screaming at you for turning Peppa Pig off & having made their sandwich the wrong way around.

The need to mention SB is quite another thing, poor lad. If she chooses to disclose/invent a reason for her difficulties whilst in education then, so be it. That is her choice.

Speculation & oversharing on social media about a child without consent is a potential safeguarding issue. Let's remember, this isn't shared to a safe 'group chat'. It is to a public forum/s where she has been allegedly bullied, harassed, stalked & abused.

I'm really quite cross about this
 
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Melling

Well he appears and disappears when convenient for her doesn't he? Right NOW she is a plucky single parent.

"Gentle chats"

I've noticed she uses the word gentle a lot. It annoys me. Why? Tbc... just annoys me.
 
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Geetbo

Just found these threads - all I knew about Jack was the Katie Hopkins stuff. Oh and id also seen her proudly serving up some pig swill on daily kitchen live.

I don’t think I have the strength to read 50 threads but think I might pop back to read some edited highlights.

now fuck off.
 
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Lanie

My

My sister's kid is about the same age, she did practice papers she got off the internet with him as his homeschool learning.

The 11plus is not the be all and end all. My mum sent us in with the attitude just do what you can and try your best. Which we did and we did. Just let him pick his pathway and encourage him that's all he needs he doesn't need anything more than that if he gets good grades then great if not then great. Let him pick a potential grammer school if he's interested in going to one and a decent non grammer so he will at least go to a school he will want to go to regardless outcome. Parents out such pressure on their kids, just let them be.
 
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Malacandra

I’m new here so please forgive me for not having got the hang of how to quote previous posts. I’m reading about how JM recommended rinsing cans of meat and was appalled at how she could suggest Washing off valuable nutrition and calories. Same with her rinsing baked beans. I’ve made plenty of chillis etc with whatever beans I had to hand and never drained or rinsed any of them. She disgusts me.

The kids and I used to spend summers at my parents’ caravan and hooray for tinned meat and Fray Bentos pies! Saved on gas and were so quick to heat up after a day on the beach.
 
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FrumpyCat

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being put under exam conditions, peer’s parents all paying for tutors...sounds more like SB goes to a private primary school to me!
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I never thought of that. But it doesn't seem unlikely.
 
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