Jack Monroe #65 Green gages and ham

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There's this very strange reverse snobbery about dishes - particularly dishes from other European countries. It's weird and disrespectful to go "ah well I'LL call it carbonara because what do Italians know anyway?" It's revelling in ignorance, and it reminds me of when someone goes "hi I'm Jorge" and the response is "oh well I'll call you George then" (I've had colleagues do this...).

I mentioned earlier that if you ordered fish and chips, and I gave you steamed salmon, you'd probably complain. Well, a Spanish person would complain about Jack's "tortilla". An Italian would complain about her carbonara, risotto, funeral pasta (remember that one?), mushroom and chocolate pasta sauce...

And it's not about being a snob or a purist. It's just that words have fucking meanings. Again, you ask for shepherd's pie. I give you a dish with shredded chicken instead of minced lamb. Go ahead and say you were *inspired* by another country's cuisine, sure. But don't rob words of their meaning, and then be proud of it.
 
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Bugger13

Anyone interested in vegan carbonara, have a google of gastroplant’s recipe. Obviously not traditional but it’s the closest to the proper italian I’ve ever found, absolutely delicious & minimalist baker vegan Parmesan is also great
 
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FlowerOfTheEast

In one of her books (can't recall which one) she dipped her toe into French-Italian fusion food with her "car-brie-nara" (literally carbonara with brie)
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I made that once! The "carbonara" sauce was made of melted brie and yoghurt if I remember right, and it wasn't actually as bad as it sounds. But it was the chopped onion in it that put me off it!
 
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sarahjay

I’m a bit confused fellow Fraus and have a query with regard to her timeline of events.

So she worked as a fire fighter call handler whilst she was with child. But she met SB’s dad whilst working at Starbucks and then fell pregnant and lost her job because she couldn’t get childcare etc etc.

This would suggest she was working 2 jobs whilst at the fire service? My friend is a call handler for the police and she works relentless hours. Why would she take a second job when the call handler job would be so intense?

Sorry if I’ve got this wrong! It’s been bugging me all day!
 
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TriviaNewtonJohn

The timelines never add up. Nothing makes sense.
 
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I steal names

Maybe Jack's a time traveller. That's the only way I can figure she has had enough time to have half the jobs and life experiences she says she has.
 
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Tabitha D

It’s certainly not a carbonara, even if she thinks she is using a “carbonara base”. I’m also a bit iffy about rosemary and nutmeg as a flavour combination - they are both a bit strong and surely they’d clash.
 
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FrumpyCat

I think Jack had known him several years before he impregnated her.
 
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BlendedSlop

When you resort to stretching the truth/outright lying to avoid accountability or handwave inconvenient questions, it becomes easier and easier to fall back on, to the point where it's second nature. The trouble is, the more you rely on this tactic the harder it is to keep your story straight, resulting in inconsistencies and blurring of the timeline as you try to remember what you've already told people.

Just an observation, Your Honour.
 
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ChickenPorridge

I definitely read in one of her interviews that she met SB's dad while working at a coffee shop together, had a whirlwind fling and she ended up pregnant and working at the fire service. Must've all happened fairly quickly but then it seems like she only stuck each of her retail jobs out for a very short amount of time (yet still adding the *experience* to her CV)
 
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