I never could understand how the"Bootstrap" thing was ever validated by a reputable publisher: bootstrings or shoestrings maybe, but no-one does anything on a bootstrap.
Jack Monroe #63 I tend to move in circles of cookery and politics rather than outrage and vitriol
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Sarah Vine was your boss. Why do you refer to "her" as "he"?
No gloatfest tonight tonight?
I dislike her but she was right to be angry with Edwina Currie. She did NOT come from a wealthy background, as many of you claim. To me, her accent sounds very working class/lower middle class, which fits her upbringing.
The interminable fishing trips for potential new collaborations is hilarious. JM knows that Yorkshire Tea have a well-funded Marketing strategy right now.
What are you talking about? He's a lovely guy - so kind and thoughtful and has never forgotten his roots. I admit that I have never watched his tv shows, so perhaps he has a different persona on screen.
If she ruins tea, I will be so cross. Just leave it off. Also I taught my seven year old to make tea during lockdown,( with parental guidance of course) it's not bleeping rocket science.
Mac & cheese in a mug.
From 17.58 onwards. Why would anyone do this?
From 17.58 onwards. Why would anyone do this?
Eamonn is indeed my cousin. He comes from the New Lodge area of Belfast and regularly returns to what he still considers to be HOME. He went to St Malachy's college, as did my younger brother. Belfast is a small town in many ways. He's still one of our own.eta of course he wasn`t and mackie is your "friend"
He would not have wanted to join a gloatfest, eh?
Speaking of Irish soda bread - JM has not the slightest clue about how to make it. I'm saying this as a Norn Irish woman who knows.
But you’ve give him the right swerve for 30 years on telly aw give him a watch he’s great
What was the lingreenie?I fail to believe that Eamonn has anything but disdain for Jack Monroe and her ‘chaos’ the lingreenie disaster proved that much!!
Cue her desperately prodding raw turgid pasta which barely bent when she poured it ‘apparently’ cooked into the colander. Oh gosh TV gold!
Wealth is relative and accents subjective. For what it’s worth, no one really cares what class she is but it’s her ceaseless peddling of the complete lie that she was practically raised in a slum, so that she can con more money from a captive audience, that doesn’t go down too well here.
It's someone who made one of Jack's crappy recipes using Yorkshire Tea and tagged them both
That's good to know! I've watched the odd thing, but I've never been into daytime tv. He started out on Ulster television and we always knew that he would do well.
Are you having a go at me? Do you want me to post the family tree? Yes, Eamonn Holmes is my cousin - but not a first cousin. I think that he is a first cousin twice or once removed - no matter - he's my cousin. We have many family members in common and anecdotes. He is my family. My father did very well and I have lived in several countries and people are always surprised to discover that this "posh English" woman is from Belfast.
I am related to Eamonn through my mother's side, and no we are not in regular contact, but I did message him a few days ago about a horrible tragedy involving a boy from his old school. Eamonn started out as a journalist and I know that he will follow through.
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Bollocks didn't she.
She had two parents, one in a good job.
They owned a house.
The inlaws owned property.
They had enough space and income to be approved for fostering (which comes with an additional allowance).
They had at least one vehicle, if not two, both being expensive in different ways (the cost of a van and the cost of a Land/Range Rover).
Compare that to being a kid brought up on just benefits, in overcrowded and practically derelict accommodation. No aspiration. No education post 16 (or earlier). Single parent family. That means no car, no ballet, no music lessons, no pianos, no own room, no grammar school (because the uniform was expensive and you'd always be bullied for being the Poor Kid - or because Grammar Schools had been banned in the area, no chance of a private scholarship for exactly the same reasons and no need to choose anything other than the nearest school, where you'll get beaten up for being the poorest in the school, for being smart and the piss ripped out of you by the others walking past to the canteen because you had to queue up with the other Poor Kids to get your free lunch token, no decent food at home or school because the free school meal value wasn't enough to get more than half a meal. No future, no hope of improvement. The best career move was to find somebody willing to marry you if female, get a job in a factory if male, because at least you'd be inside. And hopefully, once the kids came along, he wouldn't drink his wage packet before he came home on the Friday night and/or beat you up. Somebody who didn't use a weapon or a clenched fist was 'Well, it's not as if he gave you a black eye now, is it?'.
To those of us on here that grew up in real poverty --and in some cases would have quite happily have become one of those foster children she complains about for taking attention away from her-- , JM was bleeping minted. Her real voice shows this. Her tales of aunts with big houses and ballet training and pianos and everything else shows this. Even her tastes in furnishings and brands shows this - a grand for a couple of sideboards? Chest of drawers for fifty quid would be pushing the boat out. Three grand for another fridge? Beko do ones that fit in normal social housing kitchens for a couple of hundred, and they'd be the posher choice.
If you think for one moment that JM wasn't immensely privileged compared to the people she thinks she speaks for, you grew up with far more than a hell of a lot of us did.
ETA: read your subsequent post. Yes, you did.
Ah please. You can be lower middle class and still loaded if you own property, which her family did. The class system is an absolute minefield and is about so much more than how much money you have. I hear Wayne and Colleen are loaded, but no one is going to argue that they’re upper class, are they? Similarly I knew lots of people at university who were upper middle class who had barely any family money at all in the end, but they were still poshos.
FWIW, I think you are right - she has a lower middle class background with family who had ££ from various good/professional jobs (teachers and people who work in the fire service aren’t on the bare bones of their arse, although they should probably be paid more) and through owning property (grandad, may he RIP). I think this makes her anxious about where she fits in bc being white and lower middle class isn’t exactly an ‘identity’ as such (And we all know how much she loves one of those!), it’s basically the ‘default’ (especially for many people of Jack’s age, potentially due to some post war boom type thing maybe?) so she simultaneously pulls this ‘I had to walk 14 miles to school up hill both ways when my dad didn’t drop me off in his white van’ alongside calling Nigella ‘dear heart’ and whinging because she didn’t own a house by the time she was 30. She should just calm down and work out who she actually is, and stop trying to be all things to all people.
I am in a terrible mood tonight, everything is getting on top of me and the thought of her scamming money out of well meaning people who think she’s a pauper is doing my head in, frankly. 2020 is a tit year, and she’s been an embarrassment the whole way through.
Six degrees of separation - have you ever played it? I worked from 1998 to 2012 in various quangos to do with educational funding - my specialism being special needs. Gove was never my direct boss but I saw him and his red box many times in the lift at Great Smith Street sand he was always a snivelling nobody with no small talk.
Which accent are you referring to? She seems to have several.
I was a Civil Servant. Where on earth did you get the idea that I worked with Sarah Vine? Also, I have apologised for the gloatfest comment.
Don't be daft!
Sorry I just had to. Legit my face at the moment.
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