Jack Monroe #313 You people are weird

[GrannyOgg]

But in addition to the £400 they have given more to those on benefits?!

Every household gets the £400, the additional £650 is means tested.
I know a great many “just about managing” families who will benefit from the £400. I am far more left wing than the performative pixie and I think it’s a decent package. There’s more I’d like to see done, such as benefits increasing in line with inflation but this is a good start.

 

[MeeShellMahBell]

But in addition to the £400 they have given more to those on benefits?!

Depends how you view it I guess.

Inflation is 9/10%

They put benefits up 3% so so they're 6 or 7% lower in tlreal terms.

They took the £20 uplift before that, but that was temporary anyway.

In absolute real terms.
The standard UC payment has gone up to £343 a month. Electric, gas, insurance, food etc is up so that £343 doesn't cover it and the government, instead of raising UC with inflation, is handing out £650 to help.

It's a bit like putting a Peppa Pig plaster on a gunshot wound.

 

[Shawads]

I've got the dirt I dug up singlehandedly. The burden of the Poor's true and only champion is TOO MUCH. But I'm TOO BUSY to post it for public consumption. Now stop demanding things of me!

Sure Jan...

We don't even need GIFs anymore, we end up using the same ones so frequently, just writing Jimmy nail is enough. Or sure Jan
Actually thinking of Jimmy nail, I might start using auf wiedersehen, pet as my go to whenever someone's lying in future
With my gloriously ticcy ADHD I can pretend it was unintentional and I have no idea of the context

 

[Clarends]

Had a response to my complaint about the response to the comment I made about the Radio 4 Food Programme


"We have raised your additional concerns with the producer.

Jack Monroe is a high profile food writer and campaigner, she has received many awards over the years, has had numerous books published, and makes regular television appearances. She has a huge following on twitter and so we feel that people are interested in her life.

As her focus is on cost effective and easy cooking for people who live in poverty, we felt this makes her interesting and different for the Food programme.

Before the programme was made the production team were aware that people have said negative things about Jack online, the team addressed this with Jack, asking her why she thinks she gets so much hatred, and how she feels about people who say she is ‘performing poverty’, and she responded.

Leyla did ask questions about the Vimes Boots Index, and Jack gave a very lengthy response, which was edited. Jack explained why it was taking her so long to put the index together. Although the index does not exist currently the programme often talk to contributors about their future plans and ambitions.

The programme did not bring up her tax affairs as this was an interview about her life, her relationship with food, and the campaigning she does.

The programme often interviews people who are well off. Jack did not claim during the interview that she was poor, or that her family is poor. She said money was tight when she was young, but she also talked about spending time with family in Devon, and the family were clearly comfortable enough to be able to foster children. In the past, Jack has spoken about living on a very tight budget when she was an unemployed single mother. The programme mentioned how she had written a blog about that, and included recipes for cheap meals in it, which eventually made her popular with audiences.

The Food Programme did not say she continues to live on that kind of income now.

With regards to her behaviour on Twitter, the programme is not responsible for what she does on that website.

This now concludes Stage 1 of our complaints process. That means we can’t correspond with you further here."

 

[Veronicaaa]

Aaron Bastani has entered the chat. He's a prick anaw but nevertheless I am here for it.

 

[Shawads]

We don't even need GIFs anymore, we end up using the same ones so frequently, just writing Jimmy nail is enough. Or sure Jan
Actually thinking of Jimmy nail, I might start using auf wiedersehen, pet as my go to whenever someone's lying in future
With my gloriously ticcy ADHD I can pretend it was unintentional and I have no idea of the context

*Caveat, we are actually a ticcy family, some with full blown tourettes and some just generally ticcy, not a bandwagon jumping grift

 

[Veronicaaa]

She's gonna hate this

 

[Shimmering]

She's as thick as champ. The good thing is, when people disagree with her, she doubles down and refuses to admit she could be wrong. Making more of a monstrous tit of herself in the process.

Of course she's not happy her patreons pay her fuel bills anyway, and unlike people on a fixed income, she's only ever a tip jar rattle away from getting her account topped up.

She's missing a trick here, she could get her well off followers to donate their £400 to her forever home fund.

 

[Shawads]

Had a response to my complaint about the response to the comment I made about the Radio 4 Food Programme


"We have raised your additional concerns with the producer.

Jack Monroe is a high profile food writer and campaigner, she has received many awards over the years, has had numerous books published, and makes regular television appearances. She has a huge following on twitter and so we feel that people are interested in her life.

As her focus is on cost effective and easy cooking for people who live in poverty, we felt this makes her interesting and different for the Food programme.

Before the programme was made the production team were aware that people have said negative things about Jack online, the team addressed this with Jack, asking her why she thinks she gets so much hatred, and how she feels about people who say she is ‘performing poverty’, and she responded.

Leyla did ask questions about the Vimes Boots Index, and Jack gave a very lengthy response, which was edited. Jack explained why it was taking her so long to put the index together. Although the index does not exist currently the programme often talk to contributors about their future plans and ambitions.

The programme did not bring up her tax affairs as this was an interview about her life, her relationship with food, and the campaigning she does.

The programme often interviews people who are well off. Jack did not claim during the interview that she was poor, or that her family is poor. She said money was tight when she was young, but she also talked about spending time with family in Devon, and the family were clearly comfortable enough to be able to foster children. In the past, Jack has spoken about living on a very tight budget when she was an unemployed single mother. The programme mentioned how she had written a blog about that, and included recipes for cheap meals in it, which eventually made her popular with audiences.

The Food Programme did not say she continues to live on that kind of income now.

With regards to her behaviour on Twitter, the programme is not responsible for what she does on that website.

This now concludes Stage 1 of our complaints process. That means we can’t correspond with you further here."

Wow. Very interesting, not dissimilar to TTrust but more defensive than the TTrust.
So what is stage 2 of the complaints process? Where can they correspond with you further if not 'here' ?
Wonder if anyone 'in the wild' has done similar with superdrug?
I don't have as much disrespect for superdrug as I do the guardian and r4 for giving her a platform..it is seemingly predominantly non Tories (don't quote me, made up stats) who use r4 and the guardian as their trusted media sources of information and they can definitely impact how 'the people' / chattering classes think about those less well off or needing extra support.
Using jack is a backwards step.
Its not 2013, she's no longer relevant. Her experience is outdated and her jacktivism is completely self serving to keep her in the public eye and getting gigs. Nothing else.
V lazy broadcasting BBC radio 4 , get some new voices. If they have to be middle class like jack then find a middle class family who are actually struggling and have relevant current relatable experience, because there's plenty out there.
Better yet, expand your reach by inviting people who are not The Acceptable Face of The Poors ™ and treat them like actual human beings rather than exhibits to cluck about from a distance.
We need to move on from the benefit street Jeremy Kyle representation of regular folks and give voice to non media trained real people.

Jack, who is positive she can out think the Prime Minister, is getting her arse handed to her by a random Twitter user who, it appears, can actually string two thoughts together.

For anyone that is even vaguely interested the Naga are a race of half serpent, half human demi -gods from Hindu mythology.

Wow, cool fact bro/ granny/ pal!
Definitely want to explore this further. Be a nice change from fruitlessly slating fack mon-no

 

[holliebollie]

I watched the 2014 Jamie Oliver channel vid (is it her rhubarb bread recipe or his?!). This tickled me:

As did a question asking what ‘a rhubarb’ is (he was Japanese though) and one saying:

LOVELY PERSONALITY. Lovely!!!

 

[Veronicaaa]

 

[veronica71]

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It’s squigs like this that give me a little hope for humanity

 

[Shimmering]

"I'd probably want to start as a local councillor" is honestly sending me.

 

[Jelly Bean]

Aaron Bastani has entered the chat. He's a prick anaw but nevertheless I am here for it.

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Uh oh Bastani

 

[TheDragonWithAFlagon]

"I'd probably want to start as a local councillor" is honestly sending me.

Doesn't the scary stalker live in her ward?




Oh, of course, she'll need to buy the ickle forevvva home first.

 

[Winthropp Tuesday]

"I'd probably want to start as a local councillor" is honestly sending me.

Dear Councillor Monroe,

What are you going to do about the missed bin collections for our ward? It has been terrible since we moved to monthly black bins. What do we pay our taxes for????

Yours
Agnes Rugmuncher, 23 Railway Cuttings

Dear Agnes

I have a recipe on the 2018 version of my website for slow cooker bin scrap crisps with bin juice dip which should deal with any household waste. Hope that helps. Please leave me alone. My mental health is shot. I don’t owe any taxes. Not a penny. And I’m forensic in my laser sharp accuracy. I’m working a 120 hour week for NOTHING, pal.

Yours
Dr Councillor Mx Jack Monroe, Gloriously Autistic Truth Twister.

 

[Fruitjack]

The ~ (tilde?) key is doing some heavy lifting at the moment. In the wrong place.

 

[shouldbutshornt]

The Tories keep doing socialist things, that’s what’s annoying (I think, and I’m not an economist or politics expert) so the £400 is brilliant but a really unexpected move by the right, similar to the UC uplift in lockdown. I still hate the Conservative party because I’m tribal but this was a good move by them, not inkeeping with their usual policy. Chapeau, Rishi.

stop changing Tories to Torres. That’s in the upside down

Actually gave more than the labour plan, so all they can complain about is it not being targeted enough, even though it’s pretty well targeted, actually.

 

[Nottonightbabe]

Had a response to my complaint about the response to the comment I made about the Radio 4 Food Programme


"We have raised your additional concerns with the producer.

Jack Monroe is a high profile food writer and campaigner, she has received many awards over the years, has had numerous books published, and makes regular television appearances. She has a huge following on twitter and so we feel that people are interested in her life.

As her focus is on cost effective and easy cooking for people who live in poverty, we felt this makes her interesting and different for the Food programme.

Before the programme was made the production team were aware that people have said negative things about Jack online, the team addressed this with Jack, asking her why she thinks she gets so much hatred, and how she feels about people who say she is ‘performing poverty’, and she responded.

Leyla did ask questions about the Vimes Boots Index, and Jack gave a very lengthy response, which was edited. Jack explained why it was taking her so long to put the index together. Although the index does not exist currently the programme often talk to contributors about their future plans and ambitions.

The programme did not bring up her tax affairs as this was an interview about her life, her relationship with food, and the campaigning she does.

The programme often interviews people who are well off. Jack did not claim during the interview that she was poor, or that her family is poor. She said money was tight when she was young, but she also talked about spending time with family in Devon, and the family were clearly comfortable enough to be able to foster children. In the past, Jack has spoken about living on a very tight budget when she was an unemployed single mother. The programme mentioned how she had written a blog about that, and included recipes for cheap meals in it, which eventually made her popular with audiences.

The Food Programme did not say she continues to live on that kind of income now.

With regards to her behaviour on Twitter, the programme is not responsible for what she does on that website.

This now concludes Stage 1 of our complaints process. That means we can’t correspond with you further here."

"Jack gave a very lengthy response, which was edited."

 

[shouldbutshornt]

Just wanted to say, it’s not really any kind of gotcha to say Rishi mate probably owns energy company shares. Practically anyone with a pension indirectly owns shares in energy companies. Of course Rishi does. So what? The reason she’s the only one forensically digging into this (how? Googling?) is that everybody else knows its insignificant.