J. K. Rowling

[ShowMeYourFeline]

Although genderists are wrong, and 99.999% of people with intersex conditions don’t actually fall outside of the sex binary:

Even if they did, that doesn’t mean humans don’t have binary sex. That’s like saying humans aren’t bipedal because some people are born with more or less than two legs.

 

[Bitofthebubbly]

No one seems to care about bigotry towards women unfortunately.

 

[Scotch Mist]

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...uspended-Twitter-stating-men-arent-women.html

So according to the rules of Twitter we are not allowed to disagree and are being forced to accept that men are women if they say so!
Disgusting

 

[SqualorVictoria]

In this and the gender discussions thread, many people have posted concerns and not one of those have been addressed by TRAs- for example, the issue of transwomen being allowed to compete in womens sports. The other argument I've seen about people worrying about the dangers of allowing male bodied people into female only spaces is "men are going to do that anyway" (paraphrasing). I have not seen a single valid counter argument. I'm a progressive liberal borderline Marxist hippy so my concerns in no way stem from an irrational hatred of trans people. GC people here don't want trans people to be unhappy. We recognise that gender dysphoria is a genuine condition.

 

[DanaScully]

There is a great article inThe Times magazine about detransitioning women. It's so sad that these women were basically told they were trans and given hormone treatment because they didnt like pink or because they were lesbian and hadn't come to terms with it, or had been sexually abused and felt safer as a man. One poor woman was going through the menopause at 23 yet the consequences hadn't been explained to her. She is at huge risk of osteoporosis and cancer as she had her womb and ovaries removed. I hope these people sue the clinics.It's a growing number of detransitioners but they are silenced and abused by trans activists.

The trans lobby are trying their best to stop detransitioners speaking out like this.
In fact, the subreddit r/detrans was recently banned as well as all of the other subs I was a member of where we could speak about these issues: r/truelesbians, r/LGBdroptheT, r/GenderCritical r/itsafetish, etc. This was under the guise of reddit banning "hate speech".

This is cancel culture, creating a climate whereby people can't come together to discuss these matters (as we are doing right now). They think that by removing our platforms we will have no choice but to sit down and shut up, but I'm going to keep standing up and speaking out anywhere I can.

Numerous people resigned from the Tavistock Clinic because of its dodgy practices. Here's one account: https://quillette.com/2020/01/17/wh...-need-therapy-not-just-affirmation-and-drugs/

One of my biggest concerns personally is young gender non-conforming lesbians being pushed into transitioning, and the peer pressure these young girls are experiencing. This thread is really interesting regarding school age detransitioners: https://tattle.life/threads/19920/

I'm also very concerned for youngsters who have (possibly undiagnosed) ASD and are experiencing gender dysphoria being encouraged to transition without the ASD aspect being explored at all:

Study finds transgender, non-binary autism link

New research indicates that transgender and non-binary individuals are significantly more likely to have autism or display autistic traits than the wider population -- a finding that has important implications for gender confirmation treatments.

www.eurekalert.org

 

[DanaScully]

It's the claiming to be oppressed and vulnerable that gets me! You can't opt in to being a woman and then play the victim when females have been oppressed and victimised since the beginning of time.

 

[Justhereforthedrama]

Well I totally disagree with you. I have no reason to disbelieve my black trans woman friend of over 10 years who i spoke with two days ago after a rally she attended. She has lived in NY for 29 years and feels exactly this. She is in a far superior position than you or I to tell me what is really happening within the trans community on the ground in NY and the US with regards to trans rights, abuse, assault and murder vs what is actually reported by the MSM. You’re entitled to your opinion but ill take my research and inside on the issues. Thanks

please do go have a look- you will really struggle to prove your point.
In the UK there have been so few murders of trans people over the past 10 years (I think it is around 1 person) that it is impossible to say they are at a higher risk.

Here is the evidence:

FactCheck: how many trans people are murdered in the UK?

Let’s take a look at the statistics.

www.channel4.com

Like the pp above said and like the channel four fact check said they are more likely to be the murderer.

Of the population in prison though, compared to rest of the male population there is a significantly higher percentage of sex offenders amongst the trans population.

 

[Bitofthebubbly]

I think we can all agree that that headline from the sun (and now daily fail) is abhorrent. A stark reminder to not just JK but to all women that misogyny is alive and well, and won’t be going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[Vanillaco]

Sounds like shes lost in showbiz and doesnt know which bandwagon to jump on first.She made a generic meaningless message about a violent male sex abuser she chose to work with but has thrown the woman who made her famous under the bus, now bringing up her own alleged sexual abuse at a time best able to detract from JKs own experience. Girl power Emma!

 

[SqualorVictoria]

Classic TRA post. Pretty much a form of bingo at this stage. Make a load of unsubstantiated claims, conclude with some emotive statement about hate and wrongness, refuse to answer any scrutiny by taking the ~ moral high ground ~ - “I’m not even going to waste my time pretending I have any sensible answers to your careful and considered questions that I can’t bullshit a response to” - fly off again with another screech about hate for good measure, feeling nice and superior. It’s like having a discussion with a particularly thick child. Same old same old.

And TRAs will almost always accuse you of "hate" despite throwing insults and mental health slurs around themselves.

 

[Podcat]

Is this real??? If so, shame on The Sun. Disgusting behaviour.

Oh my god, its real (just checked on the tomorrows papers today hashtag).

I know we don't expect much from The Sun but that is disgusting. How dare they put her abuser on the front page, it's horrendous.

 

[bubbletea123]

Redirect Notice

www.google.com

Still ok?

Sharon Davies also speaks frankly and openly about the concerns of the trans women over shadowing female athletes.

Not fair but again not a good enough argument for those who are brain washed

Sod men who have a penis being upset because you don't fancy them. Are you honestly saying you feel sorry for them because you may reject them???

We are living in a dangerous patriarchy when a women is apologetic about not fancying men

I fucking hate this dolt. She changed her name to Veronica Ivy so when you google her no bad articles come up. She is dangerous. Look at how she is built, no wonder she beats biological women in sports, it is vile. She is built like a MAN because she was born a man.

Look at the size of "her" compared to the women.

 

[judsmum]

yep, i made a post on the gender topic about a situation in my area.

Women only swimming sessions which muslim women attended but they are now open to people identifying as women and to a muslim woman, that person is still Male, so why aren’t their beliefs valid in these cases.

That person would still be a male to me also and I serve no religion. Female spaces, sessions, support groups and also everything that comes under that ‘female’ banner should not include anyone who is born male. Because *gasp* they are not female. I will never ever be of the belief that trans women are women. Because they’re not.

 

[Bitofthebubbly]

you only have to look under her twitter posts to see numerous responses from transgender people who feel hurt.

But what has she actually said, where is the hateful/hurtful part? I can’t see anything hateful. Seen lots of people wanting to physically hurt her for her comments though.

 

[vikka]

Funny as you use the exact same catchphrases and words she uses...

I can't get over the fact that millions of women are vile and hateful transphobes.

#translivesmatter

If that isn't a gross and crass over-simplification of the issues, questions and opinions rather eloquently laid out in this thread and beyond, then I don't know what is.

 

[Basicbasic]

I can't even look beyond the use of narrow-minded given that you and everyone else in this thread is the epitome of it. I am a lesbian with trauma from rape and while I absolutely agree that not every person is going to be equipped to wax some balls or whatever else it might be, I can also recognise that it's a fairly... ridiculous argument to fight against trans rights and the existence of trans people. And that is where my issue lies. Because there is always a loophole with you guys, a reason why trans people shouldn't get to exist peacefully for the sake of the comfort of a few bigots who grasp at straws and pick out potential isolated incidents that could happen with cis men, etc.

Yaniv is an isolated incident that this thread is using to tar the entire trans community with. My own sexual trauma would never allow me to be with someone who has a penis - and aside from that, I am not attracted to them. I know that may upset some trans people; I know that will have me be painted a certain way by some, but that doesn't stop me from caring about trans people being afforded the same rights and respect as everyone else because I care deeply about making sure these people are helped, understood and protected from the horrible statistics that sit heavy in their existence.

It's women like us who are fighting to protect women like you from further trauma! The trans lobby have vilified lesbians and argued that they are inhumane for not sleeping with trans women. You say you wouldn't be able to sleep with a teams woman, surely you can understand the anger from lesbians who are being told they are homophobic for rejecting penis? And just like you don't want to sleep with a trans woman due to previous trauma, I don't want to share toilet with a trans woman due to previous trauma. Why is your trauma valid and mine bigotry?

 

[ManicMayz]

Someone further up the thread suggested emailing support to JK and I have today. I've been thinking about this a lot recently. The abuse she has been getting is awful. I think she's seen as a big scalp to the activists. She's also someone who has reach outside of the twittersphere. Let's face it most regular people have no idea about the gender debate but they do know who JK Rowling is. I agree with her essay and think she was brave to publish it. The Potter kids have been spineless in their responses and I really feel for her having them turn against her when she supported and built them up. It's such a sorry affair and quite surreal. I imagine in the future people will look back and think "did people really threaten the worlds most famous author with rape and death for saying female people are called women?"

 

[SqualorVictoria]

Yes exactly. Her biggest mistake was pandering to casting agents and allowing mediocre actors who were related to people in the industry like Radcliffe and Watson to be shoehorned into the films of her books. And other actors were bumped when Redmayne said he wanted to do fantastic Beasts. All the Harry Potter kids are millionaires off her back. They have done nothing of note without her. How dare Daniel Radcliffe apologise on behalf of Harry Potter!

This gets me too. They have thrown her under the bus. Even if they didn't agree with what she was saying, why even speak up it all? Why did they need to set the matter straight? A chance to try keeping themselves relevant, I guess? And Radcliffe, the word woman isn't yours to give away

 

[LittleMy]

Thankfully Rupert Grint has a statement against Rowling's comments in The Times today so I bet you'll all stop licking his arse now.

Not licking his arse, he is the better actor of the three by a mile imo and he’s entitled to his opinion just like the rest of them, including JKR. They have all echoed the same sentiment; “Trans women are women and trans men are men.” Only, JKR did not dispute that in her original tweets. She spoke of biological sex, which neither you, nor I, can dispute exists.

 

[Holly Golightly]

I always thought I was a trans ally but the last few years have left me frequently disturbed, distressed and confused.

I wonder how we ended up here too. Where is the massive surge of power behind this movement coming from and why?