J. K. Rowling

[jewelkitty]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro....ys-finally-feels-like-real-woman-9561298/amp/


Ladies this is apparently what makes you feel and be a woman.

That is beyond vile and insulting.

I would say you don’t want to know, but everyone needs to! When they make the neovagina, they make a skin canal inside the man using skin from their pubic area and penis. Some surgeons recommend laser hair removal first. Some don’t. These men end up with what is basically an open wound they have to dilate (insert dildo shaped things daily into it to help it keep its shape) with hair growing inside it. They get a build up of bacteria and hair and sweat. Doctors have described a “foul smell” that comes from them. Men have had hair balls and balls of god knows what filth fall out of these canals. Some of the men regularly bleed from the open wounds and wear sanitary towels claiming it’s their period.

And then there’s the neovaginas made with the parts of the colon and the side effects related to that. Bacteria, mucous, etc.

The external part of the neovagina can vary depending on who they use as a surgeon. Some of these men end up absolutely butchered. Non existent labia with a lump above it meant to be the “clitoris”. Labia that is clearly ballsack without the ball. Infections and pus. A lot of pain. And they aren’t allowed to talk about it because the trans agenda shuts them down. Reddit used to have a subreddit where they’d share images and links of these people who’d been brainwashed into thinking they’d have a genuine vagina post-surgery when they’d actually end up with an open wound and lots of pain.

Anyone who shares the negative stories are drowned out by the people who claim its lies or its normal or the person just had a bad surgeon. They prefer to talk about how theirs convinces everyone “even cis lesbians cant tell!” “Even my new gynae didn’t realise!”. They ignore the fact that those lesbians and doctors have to play along with their delusions or face being called transphobic.

Honestly the whole trans brainwashing is an absolute rabbit hole when you look into it. It’s crazy and I think it slightly fascinates me as to the extent everyone seems to be taking part in a mass brainwashing event.

Wow. I mean I knew they made fake vaginas but I hadn't heard the term neovaginas before and I certainly never looked into it in this kind of detail
I mean, to want to mutilate your own body to this level, how can that ever, ever be considered normal? It's deranged, sorry. And I do feel sorry for the men brainwashed into doing this, it sounds absolutely awful.

I might be wrong to draw this parallel, but you have white people putting their hair in braids who get slaughtered for it, but men who get fake vaginas are the the next fucking messiah? I'm not pro cultural appropriation or anything like that, but I just can't help drawing similarities between race and sex.

 

[DanaScully]

Where’s the member who’s just called us Terfs (or the ones who think they’re being all covert by just clicking sick/angry emojis on all our posts ) what’s your opinion on this? You want these wankers changing next to your little girls? You think these men would be safe around women in a refuge? You want your bumps feeling.

I always find they go very quiet when you present them with evidence of how sick and twisted the trans lobby actually is.

I find it very sad that other women will happily call us TERFs for calling this extremism out. I look forward to the day these women get selected for a strip search at an airport and they're assigned a "female" agent of the trans variety.

Edit: missed a word.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

Are you for real? I do understand the process as someone who Unfortunately has been in and out of breast clinic
Have a look at the trans activism and the vile , disgraceful garbage they spew if you dare say they are not women.
Seriously they literally would argue a wall is red when it's blue!
So are you telling me a trans nurse would be ok with the hospital or surgery asking the patient if a WOMEN/FEMALE can be present instead of them?

And for what it's worth why the hell should an additional rigmarole be placed on the patient?
I'd be quite open if a trans nurse was there and say no thank you but I suppose I'm a gobby outspoken woman. Many other women and girls in this woke society would feel uncomfortable with saying no.

Makes me so mad that women are put upon

It is women who are being put upon. A breast cancer patient should not have the additional worry of whether they'll be perceived as transphobic

 

[Inforapenny]

It's almost Handmaid's Tale...women throwing other women under the bus

 

[Smca53]

The TRA brigade are terrifying.

One thing I keep waiting to be answered: what does it mean for medical research and treatment if the extreme TRA views are pandered to? How do we properly research diseases/illnesses which are, or may be, affected by biological sex? Is this something we’re just supposed to ignore? I’ve never quite grasped this.

I apologise if this has already been addressed - I have lurked for the majority of this thread.

Anyway, as ever, this thread is the only thing that reminds me I’m sane and that those shouting the loudest aren’t always the majority.

 

[Bitofthebubbly]

More like trying to distance themselves from her since their fan base is largely woke millennials. They don’t want any negativity from JK’s tweets affecting their precious careers. The only sensible one was Rupert Grint, he’s kept out of everything really.

Rupert Grint is easily the best actor out of the three in my opinion.

 

[ShowMeYourFeline]

This is really informative and insightful, and thanks for not being automatically agressive towards people who aren't informed enough perhaps. You're a peach.

How patronising. You clearly think you are more intelligent and educated than people with the opposite opinion.

Here’s a fact for you: almost all of us who are critical of the transgender movement were once champions of them. We automatically supported them as compassionate and responsible left-wingers. It was only educating ourselves and looking beyond propaganda that changed our minds.

 

[Vanillaco]

There is a great article inThe Times magazine about detransitioning women. It's so sad that these women were basically told they were trans and given hormone treatment because they didnt like pink or because they were lesbian and hadn't come to terms with it, or had been sexually abused and felt safer as a man. One poor woman was going through the menopause at 23 yet the consequences hadn't been explained to her. She is at huge risk of osteoporosis and cancer as she had her womb and ovaries removed. I hope these people sue the clinics.It's a growing number of detransitioners but they are silenced and abused by trans activists.

 

[jewelkitty]

I never use unisex bathrooms. Not only that but there’s the risk of hidden spy cameras.

Agreed. A while ago at my work, the women's toilet broke so we had to just use the unisex toilet (there's a men's, a women's and a unisex toilet).
When the women's toilet finally got fixed the men wouldn't stop using it (as they became used to just having a men's and a unisex toilet) and all us women had to rally up, send out multiple stern emails saying that the toilet was for WOMEN ONLY. The men were leaving it in a disgusting state, not only pissing all over the seat and floor, but leaving blood, shit and vomit on the toilet too (don't ask, I have no idea).

I'm grateful that my workplace isn't "ultra-woke" and didn't take offence to this (especially because women in my workplace are a very small minority as it is).

 

[Oohthedrama]

My last comment on this issue.

regardless of where you fall on the conversation/argument about trans/women/men and the issues they face.

If you have 14.5m followers, and instead of using that reach to amplify the issues we’re all facing at the moment you choose to use it to target a group of people, during pride month, when people’s mental health is at an all time low, out of nowhere, just because.

you’re a bit of a dick.

 

[judsmum]

‘Absolute terf’ I mean there could be worse things. Could be a weirdo, a murderer, or a violent man in a women’s prison who rapes female inmates, or a man who demands female only beauty salons wax his balls, or a man taking a place on a women’s sports team or a man who uses rape threats to silence women. Yep, definitely worse things in the world than being an ‘absolute terf’ at this point.

Or a ‘trans woman‘ who encourages their disciples to talk about slitting a ‘Terfs’ throat online all because she’s a lesbian and didn’t want to play with a penis.

 

[DanaScully]

The job advert above is just one example of where the lines are becoming blurred. Personally I wouldn't feel comfortable discussing sexual violence with a trans woman. Just as I wouldn't feel comfortable being strip searched by a trans woman police officer or airport worker. If this were to happen you just know that I would be deemed the unreasonable one for objecting!

I'm a member of an organisation that holds elections for certain positions, and a number of seats are reserved for women to ensure fair proportionality. There is one individual who stands as 'John/Jane Smith' (it literally says that on the ballot paper). He goes for the male seat and if he doesn't get that then he automatically goes in for the female seat also, and is usually elected.

I'm astonished every time I see it happen, that people are voting for someone who goes by John/Jane to a female seat and he is winning.

 

[maytoseptember]

Thought crimes.

 

[maytoseptember]

Hang on though, why is middle aged woman (which is exactly what these people are) a term of abuse but “trans woman” as we discussed earlier isn’t?

I agree with everyone who says you’re being obtuse here. Context is everything.

“Middle aged woman” is almost always used as an insult (and not a mere descriptor as you’re suggesting) and is the perfect juxtaposition of ageism and sexism. It’s a double insult.

 

[creme.egg92]

Lots of this movement has come from lesbian left wing women. The academics I mentioned previously tend to fit into this category. Equally there is a black lesbian barrister, Allison Bailey, who has been treated horrifically by her chambers and others for starting a "LGB Alliance" because she shares the concerns of the lesbian poster above. The idea that a lesbian who does not find transwomen attractive is transphobic is straight up gay erasure. It baffles me that so many gay and lesbian people seem to think they must advocate for the transgender ideology because of the LGBT 'alliance' when this movement is trying to force you out of existence.

It's interesting what somebody posted previously about Marxism because it also seems like this issue is something that has really split the left. The progressive woke beardy types are always left wing, but there are also many many gender critical left wing people also. Saying that, aside from self ID being a Tory idea originally, it doesn't seem that there is much support for this from the right either. I have seen plenty of usually lefty people on Twitter showing gratitude to Liz Truss over her halting of the GRA reform. Given that Lib Dems are a lost cause on this and it's yet to be seen what Starmer's policies on it will be it may well be the case that the Tories are now the only hope we have in stopping all this. Despite not wanting to vote for them either, I'm really not sure I could bring myself to vote for a party who sets this GRA reform back on its tracks if I'm honest. So who would we have left to vote for? Greens are similar to Lib Dem on this policy. Would be interested in others' thoughts on this.

 

[Lanavalentine]

I'm not arguing, or saying it has any impact on statistics or rates, or that cases don't differ from person to person, but if I had shot down my son last year and told him he couldn't live as he felt, I'm almost certain I wouldn't have my son today, even as a daughter. He's told me himself in so many words. I didn't realise just how depressed he was.

So while I can't comment on the legitimacy of any stats, I can completely understand where the assumption originates from.

I am sorry for you and your son to have gone throught that. However, anecdotal evidence doesn’t help the cause, and there are NICE guidelines created to help stop sucide ideation amongst vulnerable groups that specifically state that suicide must not be portrayed as inevitable, and yet, many Trans charities and trans activists are ignoring those guidelines by repeatedly telling trans children and their parents that those who do not receive 100% affirmation in their gender identity are at risk of suicide. Not only is this statistically incorrect, it is incredibly dangerous.

By pepertuating the idea that a transgender person will not be able to avoid killing themselves if they do not access the transition they require, then it risks becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.

It’s a harmful argument to the trans community, and yet supposed allies insist on repeating it.

 

[SqualorVictoria]

It's also ridiculous to suggest that someone's views are not worthwhile because they've been longer on this earth. Erm, surely life experience counts? JK has said that this is the most misogynistic era she has lived through, so instead of using "middle age" as a stick to beat her with, I wish her detractors, especially the younger woke women, would think "okay, maybe I should listen to what she's saying"

@Doc you're fully correct that half of them won't even have read her essay. In fact, I remember around the time it was published TRAs were actively encouraging people not to read it. The equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears "la la I can't hear you". They don't want any debate in this

 

[Vanillaco]

The trans lobby are trying their best to stop detransitioners speaking out like this.
In fact, the subreddit r/detrans was recently banned as well as all of the other subs I was a member of where we could speak about these issues: r/truelesbians, r/LGBdroptheT, r/GenderCritical r/itsafetish, etc. This was under the guise of reddit banning "hate speech".

This is cancel culture, creating a climate whereby people can't come together to discuss these matters (as we are doing right now). They think that by removing our platforms we will have no choice but to sit down and shut up, but I'm going to keep standing up and speaking out anywhere I can.

Numerous people resigned from the Tavistock Clinic because of its dodgy practices. Here's one account: https://quillette.com/2020/01/17/wh...-need-therapy-not-just-affirmation-and-drugs/

One of my biggest concerns personally is young gender non-conforming lesbians being pushed into transitioning, and the peer pressure these young girls are experiencing. This thread is really interesting regarding school age detransitioners: https://tattle.life/threads/19920/

I'm also very concerned for youngsters who have (possibly undiagnosed) ASD and are experiencing gender dysphoria being encouraged to transition without the ASD aspect being explored at all:

Study finds transgender, non-binary autism link

New research indicates that transgender and non-binary individuals are significantly more likely to have autism or display autistic traits than the wider population -- a finding that has important implications for gender confirmation treatments.

www.eurekalert.org

Agree. I wasnt into ' girly' stuff at all when I was a child. I still hardly ever wear makeup or jewellery. I am just as much a woman as someone who wears lots of makeup and loves fashion. Because women can like different things. Its terrifying to think, as these women said that they would turn up to a clinic saying they were confused about their sexuality or hated their newly forming bodies and would walk out with testosterone prescriptions. All the women in the article said they needed counselling or psychotherapy to deal with completely separate issues but were pushed into transitioning. Most mtf transitioners are middle aged. They have lived a life with all the privelege of being male, usually got married and had children with women who had the lions share of disadvantage that comes with that and then decided to become women. No doubt when they get fed up they will throw of the shackles of womanhood in old age. most ftm trans are teenage girls. A teenage girl will have destroyed her fertility and have life changing surgery that means she will have to be on HRT for the the rest of her life. What happens to boys who have their genitals removed and then change their minds?

 

[Scotch Mist]

I think Doreen should be reported for calling us white supremacists when this ignorant person doesn't have any idea of our race or background .

Still being a tolerant person I'll just ignore this nonsense and try to rise above it.

 

[Vee6]

literally why I can’t add anything to this thread or conversation. Because I’ve read nothing about what she’s saying, I keep seeing retweets and people I follow calling her out, I don’t see anyone supporting her on my time line, and I dislike her so soooooo much myself I immediately think she’s wrong in everything she says because she has a history of just being a bit of a bitch

makes me think with everything on line, does it make a difference if the person who’s started the conversation is liked or disliked like if it was Katie Hopkins she’s immediately “wrong” (when she had a platform that is)
JK has always been problematic on twitter, in my opinion. She comes across like someone who enjoys being controversial.

I really am adding nothing here
I should at least know what’s going on before commenting.

but I will add.
JK as a celebrity, exhausting

Not to me! She’s an absolute inspiration! Thank god for her raising awareness of this insanity